Robins has to go… (7 Viewers)

[napolimp]

Genuine question, are you watching the games and witnessing the level of performance? We’ve been outplayed at home in 3 of our 5 home games and have been outplayed in all of our away games bar the first half at Watford.

I've been to every home game this season. No one outplayed us at home, although there were some fairly even matches. I went to Stoke and they outplayed us.

 

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[bigfatronssba]

Which Championship relegation battle? Are you stupid. You think we're in a relegation battle at the start of October.

Great. It’s only October.

Please share with us what you expect to change?

 

[bigfatronssba]

I've been to every home game this season. No one outplayed us at home,

You must’ve had your eyes shut for the Norwich & Swansea games

 

[Brighton Sky Blue]

You don't know what he thinks, that's the point. Yet this forum is still full of "experts" with an inside scoop on the club. Saddlebrains is throwing out conspiracy theories left right and centre for christ sake, and everyone's lapping it up because they want to believe that the clubs going to shit, to fit the narrative that Robins being pushed out is inevitable.

I want to believe the opposite of his claims but when you see players openly bickering on the pitch, and vast swathes of the pitch being given up because players don’t know what they’re doing, you almost don’t need to be ITK to work out there’s big problems.

We saw one display like this away at Norwich two seasons ago. The characters in the team then coalesced and fought their way out of difficulty. The weak performances are now almost every week and there are very few leaders in the dressing room or coaching staff.

 

[procdoc]

Should have bought a second yellow in the lead up to their winner. I know - hindsight an all that, but a one game ban for an undoubted point - fair trade for me at the moment.
I wonder if that's been plaguing his mind since 5pm yesterday?

Eccles had a split second to make a decision and in hindsight it was the wrong one. But he shouldn’t have been given a decision to make in the first place

 

[Brighton Sky Blue]

I've been to every home game this season. No one outplayed us at home, although there were some fairly even matches. I went to Stoke and they outplayed us.

The honourable member for Naples clearly didn’t go yesterday.

 

[2024/25 League 1 Champs?]

I've been to every home game this season. No one outplayed us at home, although there were some fairly even matches. I went to Stoke and they outplayed us.

this is a contradiction - we were outplayed by Norwich and Swansea, and lucky against Oxford

 

[procdoc]

I've been to every home game this season. No one outplayed us at home, although there were some fairly even matches. I went to Stoke and they outplayed us.

Come off it. Norwich and Swansea both outplayed us and Sheffield were good value for the three points yesterday

 

[wingy]

I'm going to be bold, Rudoni for captain assuming Eccles doesn't want it, that referee yesterday, the abuse Robins allows the officials to dish out, get out of Squeaky mode Mark!

 

[oscillatewildly]

Eccles had a split second to make a decision and in hindsight it was the wrong one. But he shouldn’t have been given a decision to make in the first place

It's about split second decision making. Again I reiterate my hindsight view (although I did scream to pull their bloke down when he was on his shoulder)
Not sure why you think he should be absolved of decision making tho?

Eccles had a split second to make a decision and in hindsight it was the wrong one. But he shouldn’t have been given a decision to make in the first place

 

[ceetee]

Which Championship relegation battle? Are you stupid. You think we're in a relegation battle at the start of October.

Well of course we are. The points gained or lost at the start of the season are just as important as at the end

 

[napolimp]

Come off it. Norwich and Swansea both outplayed us and Sheffield were good value for the three points yesterday

Wednesday were gifted that win. I don't personally think they did enough to win it on their own.

 

[procdoc]

It's about split second decision making. Again I reiterate my hindsight view (although I did scream to pull their bloke down when he was on his shoulder)
Not sure why you think he should be absolved of decision making tho?

I’m not saying he should be absolved. I think he should have took the second yellow. But in the heat of the moment and when he is clearly tired it’s easy for us to say as spectators

 

[Cov4life]

To be fair, I’m seeing comments about ‘the money spent’ and I’ve peddled that recently so I checked the records.

We’ve sold £40M worth of talent and brought in less. If we had spent £30-40M without sales you can then understand the “we’ve spent all this money” but we haven’t, we’ve sold talent and brought new players in and net balance is green. It’s not really a valid argument.

what is a valid argument is whether or not we’ve recruited well enough and/or is the mgmt team getting a tune of them

Can we put this idea to bed that we’ve not spent any money and ‘brought in less’

How many players have come in that we’ve paid money for VS gone out we sold for?

If we sold 2, 40million pound players (hamer and gyok), then why didn’t we just spend 40 million on 2 players again? If we did do that, then I would agree we’ve not strengthened, but we didn’t, we spent money on other areas.

End of the day, we reinvested the profits from two players and have nothing to show for it, bar one at the moment.

 

[oscillatewildly]

this is a contradiction - we were outplayed by Norwich and Swansea, and lucky against Oxford

We battered Oxford but inexplicably let them back in the game twice.
Fair bit of symmetry with the timing of our winner with what happened yesterday but we were far the better team on that Friday evening than wendies were over us yesterday.

 

[napolimp]

this is a contradiction - we were outplayed by Norwich and Swansea, and lucky against Oxford

We were poor against Swansea, but not completely outplayed. I thought we outplayed Norwich for parts of the game.

 

[procdoc]

Wednesday were gifted that win. I don't personally think they did enough to win it on their own.

I disagree. They were tactically astute, each player knew their job and they didn’t look like a bunch of individuals thrown together without a game plan.

 

[bigfatronssba]

Well of course we are. The points gained or lost at the start of the season are just as important as at the end

And you have to look at form. We have to improve in order to stay up. If nothing changes we will be relegated

 

[oscillatewildly]

I’m not saying he should be absolved. I think he should have took the second yellow. But in the heat of the moment and when he is clearly tired it’s easy for us to say as spectators

I honestly think if he had committed that pull back, Robins would not have been scathing given the way the game was going.

 

[wingy]

We're clearly not on TV enough to matter!

 

[Fergusons_Beard]

What’s frustrating and equally worrying is that we’re being ‘out coached’ in our defeats.

Considering we now have the most club coaches that we’ve ever had and access to a plethora of media to actually scout clubs and prepare-we seem woefully underprepared in most of our fixtures.

Norwich, Swansea, Leeds, Weds and even Stoke have all had a plan which has made our team look like chumps.

Yesterday not only did we look devoid of work rate, passion and effort we again didn’t have any patterns of play or tactical nous.

So why is this?

We just don’t know-could be that the players are ignoring instructions or that there’s too many voices and we have no clear tactics.

Whatever it is-it’s a very poor watch.


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[shmmeee]

Completely disagree with the above idea. But when I read this was reminded of Tyler Walker when he started to score and then was dropped immediately afterwards. Think it was Blackburn?

Where is Walker now?

 

[ceetee]

I honestly think if he had committed that pull back, Robins would not have been scathing given the way the game was going.

Possibly but how many of us on here would have moaned that he got a red card and now he's suspended for one game and we haven't got enough midfielders blah blah blah...........

 

[napolimp]

And you have to look at form. We have to improve in order to stay up. If nothing changes we will be relegated

Wow. Are you 5 years old? This new generation of super fans who joined "the journey" in the last 3 years are really odd.

 

[ceetee]

Danny Murphy made a point on MoD a couple of weeks ago about a Prem side. He said that when players don't know what they're supposed to be doing, it makes them look as if they're not trying

 

[WestEndAgro]

Who was the last player to kiss the badge?
Perhaps they actually don't actually give a fuck.

 

[oscillatewildly]

Possibly but how many of us on here would have moaned that he got a red card and now he's suspended for one game and we haven't got enough midfielders blah blah blah...........

Not me! I've already expressed my opinion re value of the trade off - One game ban for a point (Unless of course they pulled out a worldy from the resulting free kick.)

 

[SeaSeeEffCee]

Who was the last player to kiss the badge?
Perhaps they actually don't actually give a fuck.

Rudoni did after scoring yesterday tbf.

 

[2024/25 League 1 Champs?]

Who was the last player to kiss the badge?
Perhaps they actually don't actually give a fuck.

Rudoni yesterday after he scored I believe….

 

[covcity4life]

Wow. Are you 5 years old? This new generation of super fans who joined "the journey" in the last 3 years are really odd.

You are acting like a child yourself though

Just like no one knows if robins job is at risk no one knows if he is truly safe either

I agree a few wins and people will calm down but at same time it's okay to talk about what's going wrong. Your trying to shut people down too much

 

[shmmeee]

To be fair, I’m seeing comments about ‘the money spent’ and I’ve peddled that recently so I checked the records.

We’ve sold £40M worth of talent and brought in less. If we had spent £30-40M without sales you can then understand the “we’ve spent all this money” but we haven’t, we’ve sold talent and brought new players in and net balance is green. It’s not really a valid argument.

what is a valid argument is whether or not we’ve recruited well enough and/or is the mgmt team getting a tune of them

We’ve spent more than we got from selling players.

 

[napolimp]

I disagree. They were tactically astute, each player knew their job and they didn’t look like a bunch of individuals thrown together without a game plan.

I do think that we didn't set up for the opposition yesterday, and that's been happening a lot. He put out the same team as against Blackburn, I imagine because that team won so "might as well try same again".

 

[napolimp]

You are acting like a child yourself though

Just like no one knows if robins job is at risk no one knows if he is truly safe either

I agree a few wins and people will calm down but at same time it's okay to talk about what's going wrong. Your trying to shut people down too much

No, you've made the point perfectly. No one knows what's going to happen, yet the general consensus on this forum is that he's on the way out, with comments being made that he has one game left. There is no counter argument on here, just people circling rumours and saying he needs to go.

 

[procdoc]

I do think that we didn't set up for the opposition yesterday, and that's been happening a lot. He put out the same team as against Blackburn, I imagine because that team won so "might as well try same again".

Exactly this. You have to approach each game with a different game plan based on the opposition. Robins has even said as much in the past. Maybe he’s lost trust in some players?
What concerns me with Robins is that he’s being out thought during games by the opposition manager, not reacting to their changes etc

 

[wingy]

Bring back Valiant I say,instill some spirit, here's a thought for us/you,why did we put a value on Sheaf that was impossible to achieve and Ruin that player for us long-term?