Astute
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On an upwards trajectory now?
We've been on an upwards trajectory since he became manager. It's only those who don't know their arse from their elbow that think differently.
On an upwards trajectory now?I am very much team Robins, but to qualify these points, in reality it was getting frustrating because the formation was not working at all. He wasn't changing things and the in-game tactics and substitutions were pretty poor. In many cases they cost us. There were some concerns that were genuine, and that we might have had a bit of a hangover from Wembley. This was as well as a few trolls calling for taxis which I think ends up getting a lot of focus, but most people did accept the team needed time to gel. It probably just took a bit longer than we thought and that caused some panic in the end.
He got a lot of credit on changing the formation, but that was something that was quite a slow reaction in my opinion. There were a few of us on here calling for it well before the time it came. Perhaps I'm being a bit picky, as we're well on an upward trajectory now. If we are in the Championship next season however, I would like to see a quicker start. Hopefully now the core of the team is established that can be the case.
Because it takes more than a player just saying he wants to goThing I find strange is that Hamer telling him he wanted to leave straight away, how come we didn't have the irons in the fire for his replacement as we must have known it was coming?
I know deals can end up not going through for a variety of reasons, but to end up taking a punt on a loan of Ayari as a replacement seems pretty poor if we knew he was going all along.
Yep, They were probably hoping he'd go early in in the close season, so they had the finance to bring in the replacement. Hamer (or the club) obviously turned down offers before that. We did get a good fee in the end but it messed up the replacements that were lined up.Probably because Hamer went late on, so therefore targets had gone elsewhere / didn't want to move at that point / felt unwanted because it looked like a last gasp replacement.
On an upwards trajectory now?
We've been on an upwards trajectory since he became manager. It's only those who don't know their arse from their elbow that think differently.
“We knew they were leaving on the coach”
“Pigs head”
Why are we taking what he says so literally like a toddler listening to mummy and daddy, it was a bit of a chat answering a few questions.
Great interview though.
Technically he was correct.
Pigs heads were thrown on to the pitch, little plastic ones attached to little plastic pigs bodies.
Ah so you mean we're finally on an upwards trajectory this season. That happened once the team started to gel after about 12 games. That was when we were near the bottom. It isn't when like just now as you say when we're already in the top 6 and putting a gap between us and those below us.Do you have a therapist? It might be worth going to see one because you take a large amount of posts on here the wrong way and try to kick off arguments over nothing.
My reference was an upwards trajectory results-wise this season. Not his managerial tenure.
Ah so you mean we're finally on an upwards trajectory this season. That happened once the team started to gel after about 12 games. That was when we were near the bottom. It isn't when like just now as you say when we're already in the top 6 and putting a gap between us and those below us.
After an argument? I've said the same all season. I call it a debate. I counted it as a debate even when hardly anyone agreed with me. I thought it was the reason we're on here.
Let me guess. If you have a different view to others it's a debate. If others have a different view to you its an argument.
But you said finally on an upwards trajectory. When I said we've been on it for years you then said this season. I then pointed out we've been on an upwards trajectory for most of the season. Now you say you meant most of the season and not finally as you said.Yes exactly. The whole club has been going in an upwards direction since Robins came back generally speaking. I was referring to the beginning of this season when the results were poor. We had to completely rebuild really, as well as put Wembley behind us. I think most accept that needed some time.
I was calling you out on the arguing because it feels like sometimes you see something you don't agree with and then form a fight without really digesting the whole thing. It seems our opinion on this is largely the same.
But you said finally on an upwards trajectory. When I said we've been on it for years you then said this season. I then pointed out we've been on an upwards trajectory for most of the season. Now you say you meant most of the season and not finally as you said.
Is it really me who is after an argument or is it you who is trying to cover up what you have said?
I don't care. I'm not after an argument but I will always point out when I don't understand what someone is saying or when they backtrack. To me this nothing but a backtrack. Or please explain why you said finally when we've been on an upwards trajectory when we've been on one for over half of the season so far.
Lewis O'Brien was available on loan if we'd offered to put up more wages than Boro. Going for Ayari instead seemed oddBut the deal wasn't received/agreed until very late, we probably did try to get perms done but the didn't come off.
I'm glad we didn't get desperate and throw money at something just to get someone in.
They clearly thought Ayari was going to be better than he was.
Fuck me you're changing what you say yet again. Glad you've said no more replies. Putting words into your mouth? The normal reply to being shown to be wrong yet again.No, it's definitely you looking for an argument I'm afraid.
My comments regarding upward trajectory immediately followed talk of changing formation, and were qualified afterwards by saying next season if we are still in the Championship hopefully we can start quicker. It had nothing to do with Robins' overall managerial tenure or the clubs overall direction. It was firmly on results at the beginning of this season.
You're putting words in people's mouths to have an imaginary fight. You keep doing it so I'll leave you to entertain yourself.
If Ayari showed his promise he would have been a good loan. If O'Brien was shown to be shite it would have been seen as a big waste of money.Lewis O'Brien was available on loan if we'd offered to put up more wages than Boro. Going for Ayari instead seemed odd
Fuck me you're changing what you say yet again. Glad you've said no more replies. Putting words into your mouth? The normal reply to being shown to be wrong yet again.
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I put him on ignore yesterday . Just looking for arguments constantly. Even at 2am when I'd long gone to sleep like most people.Do you have a therapist? It might be worth going to see one because you take a large amount of posts on here the wrong way and try to kick off arguments over nothing.
My reference was an upwards trajectory results-wise this season. Not his managerial tenure.
He's said before that basically if the club outgrows the player, they'll be moved on and if the player outgrows the club he won't be denied a move. Which is pretty consistent with what we've seenI get the impression there’s a lot of respect in the camp and Robins doesn’t stand in someone’s way when progressing their career. I’d imagine that sort of climate makes it easy for players to be honest with the manager.
Because we never had an acceptable offer for Hamer and when we finally did it was too late to get a replacement over the line perhaps?
5 years? Although MR was working miracles I say 13 months ago, or whenever SISU wentI would hope we may go up in the next 3 year but if we don't and we are constantly knocking on the promotion door, playing good football with a solid fan base and an owner who engaged with the management and supporters that will be something I could only have dreamed of 5 years ago.
He was, and he's been injured for the majority of the time he's been there, wonder if boro reckon they have got their moneys worth.Lewis O'Brien was available on loan if we'd offered to put up more wages than Boro. Going for Ayari instead seemed odd
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