Chaplin will come good. He gets into lots of positions to score goals, like McNulty did. He can also finish with both feet. I think once he gets his first goal, he will go on to score quite a few for us.
I was at Yeovil away last year, early in the season and I couldn't quite believe the shit McNulty got from some fans. Yes, some of his efforts on goal were poor (and he did throw himself down to win a penalty at one point), but the point is that he could have scored on at least 3 occasions.
Chaplin is in a similar position at the moment - his confidence is low, but he isn't hiding. He'll be ok long term for us, I reckon.
Robins brings in McNulty on a free transfer. He scores 28 goals in a season that gets us promotion. He gets no credit for that from some. He wants McNulty to stay but the player is insistent he wants to move meaning that Robins has to pull another rabbit from the hat. He generates, by all accounts, well over a million pounds from the sale of McNulty. He brings in Hiwula and Bakayoko, two players, which he explained yesterday, are young, not the finished article but which can be helped and developed by him to become better players. Where is the problem in that? It benefits the players, it benefits the team. And it benefits the club as more revenue will be raised than was spent and can then be reinvested again (if Sisu stick to the plan). Robins was again berated for not signing this player or that player as the season got underway and waiting instead for the opportunity to sign Chaplin. He stuck to his guns, waiting for the player he had faith in, presumably the player he thinks is closest to the finished product, who will score goals now but who he can also improve. What is wrong with that plan? All very well being experts on this player or that player he could have got for free and look how well they are doing. How many rival fans would be saying that about their manager not going in for McNulty at the start of last season when seeing how well he did for us? The fact is our manager did go and get McNulty.
The variety of views of our “fans” on Robins and Bakayoko are it seems to me; he shouldn’t have signed him he is useless, he shouldn’t play him ever again (after Blackpool), he shouldn’t bring him on as a sub he will never score (yesterday’s match thread)’ he is only bringing him on as he will have someone to blame for the defeat, If I was Bakayoko I wouldn’t try after the dog’s abuse he gets from Robins, Robins is on at Bakayoko the minute he comes on, why hasn’t Robins been playing Bakayoko more, he is much better than JCH, Bakayoko should be starting games now.
Just look at Grendel’s comments on Bakayoko in the match thread to show how fickle and changeable some people are, and he wasn’t the only one. For some reason, even though he has been great for our club, Robins can never win with some people. We even had one poster saying well yes, we won, but we were rubbish for 70 minutes. Did he not see the Scunthorpe, Rochdale and Gillingham games where Robins took dog’s abuse despite having a team that produced performances that should have won the games easily? As I say, with some he will never win. Let’s sack him and start the merry-go-round again.
Again, you miss the point.Robins brings in McNulty on a free transfer. He scores 28 goals in a season that gets us promotion. He gets no credit for that from some. He wants McNulty to stay but the player is insistent he wants to move meaning that Robins has to pull another rabbit from the hat. He generates, by all accounts, well over a million pounds from the sale of McNulty. He brings in Hiwula and Bakayoko, two players, which he explained yesterday, are young, not the finished article but which can be helped and developed by him to become better players. Where is the problem in that? It benefits the players, it benefits the team. And it benefits the club as more revenue will be raised than was spent and can then be reinvested again (if Sisu stick to the plan). Robins was again berated for not signing this player or that player as the season got underway and waiting instead for the opportunity to sign Chaplin. He stuck to his guns, waiting for the player he had faith in, presumably the player he thinks is closest to the finished product, who will score goals now but who he can also improve. What is wrong with that plan? All very well being experts on this player or that player he could have got for free and look how well they are doing. How many rival fans would be saying that about their manager not going in for McNulty at the start of last season when seeing how well he did for us? The fact is our manager did go and get McNulty.
The variety of views of our “fans” on Robins and Bakayoko are it seems to me; he shouldn’t have signed him he is useless, he shouldn’t play him ever again (after Blackpool), he shouldn’t bring him on as a sub he will never score (yesterday’s match thread)’ he is only bringing him on as he will have someone to blame for the defeat, If I was Bakayoko I wouldn’t try after the dog’s abuse he gets from Robins, Robins is on at Bakayoko the minute he comes on, why hasn’t Robins been playing Bakayoko more, he is much better than JCH, Bakayoko should be starting games now.
Just look at Grendel’s comments on Bakayoko in the match thread to show how fickle and changeable some people are, and he wasn’t the only one. For some reason, even though he has been great for our club, Robins can never win with some people. We even had one poster saying well yes, we won, but we were rubbish for 70 minutes. Did he not see the Scunthorpe, Rochdale and Gillingham games where Robins took dog’s abuse despite having a team that produced performances that should have won the games easily? As I say, with some he will never win. Let’s sack him and start the merry-go-round again.
There were very few who criticised mcnulty - even on here. Most recognised we were so devoid of real chances being created it was impossible to judge.
And how much did McNulty cost us you fucking bell end haha
Sorry for insult. A few Saigon’s down and got a bit trigger happy with the old keyboard bullets.Haha what? Why the insult...
I literally said that money isn’t a guarantee of quality. Fucking bellend haha.
The point was that he didn’t have enough money apparently to sign a finished article this season? Whereas both of those players were 20 goal a season strikers?Perhaps forgetting who the manager was who signed Leon Clarke and McNulty for free. As that was by far and away McNulty's most prolific season, the manager takes no credit for that? I think some people need to take their blinkers off.
Sorry for insult. A few Saigon’s down and got a bit trigger happy with the old keyboard bullets.
Your point according to your quote was that 500k doesn’t get the finished article...on a thread about robins saying that he didn’t have the money to sign the finished article. But McNulty was in a free which was the player you quoted for the value we sold him for....
The point is that he was the one who brought McNulty in, no one else. I had never heard of him before, had you? McNulty had the season of his life. He had never scored anywhere near that amount with any other club or any other manager but you refuse to say that any of that is down to Robins. Biamou’s improvement just coincidence too?The point was that he didn’t have enough money apparently to sign a finished article this season? Whereas both of those players were 20 goal a season strikers?
Not buying this whole he developed them out of nothing...McNulty always had it in him when he finally got forced to play a system he was so obviously more suited to
Thanks for helping my point though much appreciated
What the fuck are you talking about mate do you need to take your meds? Fancy quoting me?You were even giving him stick for shouting at Bakayoko yesterday. How do you know he was shouting at him? Could you hear him or positively know it was Bakayoko he was targeting when there are that amount of people and that amount of movement on the pitch? If Robins was shouting at him and it had that effect I hope he shouts at him every game.
This is my favourite part...when people struggle with an argument so ram words down my throat and attack them haha. Cute. No idea what 3 or 4 strikers you’re ever on about. Think you need some sleepSo Robins is at fault because he didn’t go for the three or four strikers mentioned on here. You can categorically state that in the long term they will be better than Chaplin, Hiwula and Bakayoko?
What was your point?This is my favourite part...when people struggle with an argument so ram words down my throat and attack them haha. Cute. No idea what 3 or 4 strikers you’re ever on about. Think you need some sleep
Apologies, just looked. Another poster not you with the comments on Robins shouting at Bakayoko.What the fuck are you talking about mate do you need to take your meds? Fancy quoting me?
Probably do need a good nights sleep but no problem with the argument.This is my favourite part...when people struggle with an argument so ram words down my throat and attack them haha. Cute. No idea what 3 or 4 strikers you’re ever on about. Think you need some sleep
I think that some people on here must be privy to some terrible secret about Robins that only they know but that they are not allowed to reveal to the rest of us. The only explanation that I can come up with for the constant tirade of abuse and negativity that comes his way. What I see is a manager who has turned this club around, who has won a trophy and who has got us promoted. He can’t live off that forever but I think I have seen and heard enough this season to give me hope. I still think we can go up again. What I do see is that we do have a plan on the footballing side which has a chance to take us forward. Get off his back and give him a chance.
You are still missing the point.
It's weird, the really long stories and posts that aren't at all relevant to the thread.
Out of interest, who has tiraded robins with abuse?
No he’s not. He’s bang on the point. Robins is rebuilding a club with the resources available while trying to achieve an owners objective of developing players and selling them on. That means buying diamonds in the ruff and hopefully polishing them so he can move the club forward to satisfy the fans while producing a conveyor belt to satisfy the owners.
Your posts by contrast are about the most irrelevant on here. Ironically.
That we have spent much more than we have in previous seasons in buying players and mainly on strikers so the "couldn't afford to buy one" line doesn't stack up.And the point is?
You referenced 3 or 4 players as if I said there were specific other targets I would have signed? I haven’t done that once? I spoke about McNulty and Leon Clarke arguably being our most prolific strikers in recent years and neither of them commanded a fee. With that in mind, I don’t buy this whole “didn’t have the money” excuse to get the finished article, when we’ve spend 750k on strikers.Probably do need a good nights sleep but no problem with the argument.
Here’s what you said above:
The point was that he didn’t have enough money apparently to sign a finished article this season? Whereas both of those players were 20 goal a season strikers?
Not buying this whole he developed them out of nothing...McNulty always had it in him when he finally got forced to play a system he was so obviously more suited to
Thanks for helping my point though much appreciated
I think if you read through what I have said, as Astute mentions above, I have addressed what you have been saying in this thread. Rather than becoming shouty and abusive why don’t you explain why you think I am wrong?
Exactly. It’s really not a difficult one to grasp.Robins is saying he couldn't afford a proven striker in a season where we have spent much more than in a fair few years.
If he had to only deal with free transfers he would have a point.
That's not saying they are rubbish, it's not saying that free transfers are rubbish either. It's saying when we have spent as much as we have on strikers alone it's strange to moan about not being able to afford one.
It isn't about satisfying the owners, it's about keeping the club running isn't it the same as a lot of others who rely on selling players?
To a degree we will always be a selling club as are most at this level. But not sure he’s massively trying to find players and sell them on for fees to “satisfy the owners” really? If he wants a bigger budget then he will have to sell a player. If he thinks he can work with that he has then he doesn’t. For example - he didn’t want to sell McNulty it was he who engineered the move. He said this numerous times. This would indicate that he was happy he could compete with the budget he had without selling McNulty (maybe he’d have sold someone else who knows). The point is he works within a budget and can increase it or decrease it with additions/sales from the playing squad.while trying to achieve an owners objective of developing players and selling them on. That means buying diamonds in the ruff and hopefully polishing them so he can move the club forward to satisfy the fans while producing a conveyor belt to satisfy the owners.
We have brought in strikers for free. We have paid small amounts for strikers.That we have spent much more than we have in previous seasons in buying players and mainly on strikers so the "couldn't afford to buy one" line doesn't stack up.
That's not saying any we have brought in are rubbish, as seen if we give them a chance they might do well for us.
Chaplin if 400-500k would have cost not far off if not more than most of the top goalscorers in the league.
It's almost as if the hands are tied line is being put out early.
So we signed two strikers for free. We sold them both mid contract for a seven figure transfer fee.You referenced 3 or 4 players as if I said there were specific other targets I would have signed? I haven’t done that once? I spoke about McNulty and Leon Clarke arguably being our most prolific strikers in recent years and neither of them commanded a fee. With that in mind, I don’t buy this whole “didn’t have the money” excuse to get the finished article, when we’ve spend 750k on strikers.
That’s my point. Well to be fair mate I think you can probably expect someone to get shouty and abusive when you misquote me and out words in my mouth then make out I’m being stupid for saying things I didn’t even say....
So we signed two strikers for free. We sold them both mid contract for a seven figure transfer fee.
How many finished article strikers have we signed for free in the last 20 years that have scored goals?
Goalscorers cost money. All teams want them. There is always a reason a player is available for free.
A few maybe yes. Out of how many though?Yes they do cost money a lot of the time
We spent a fair bit compared to normal so the point doesn't work does it?
I'd bet there will be a few free players who score more than our paid for strikers.
A few maybe yes. Out of how many though?
The more you pay the better the chance. But no signing comes with a guarantee.
At least we have gone for young players who can improve than strikers nobody else wanted. That is a good start.
To a degree we will always be a selling club as are most at this level. But not sure he’s massively trying to find players and sell them on for fees to “satisfy the owners” really? If he wants a bigger budget then he will have to sell a player. If he thinks he can work with that he has then he doesn’t. For example - he didn’t want to sell McNulty it was he who engineered the move. He said this numerous times. This would indicate that he was happy he could compete with the budget he had without selling McNulty (maybe he’d have sold someone else who knows). The point is he works within a budget and can increase it or decrease it with additions/sales from the playing squad.
Saying “to satisfy the owners” implies something completely different in my opinion. Again just holding the big bad SISU card
If there was any 1m strikers they would have been sold by most clubs.The point is that we have paid this year.
There aren't that many million pound strikers in league 1 are there?
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