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Captain Dart

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shmmeee

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When was the last decent English player who made a decent English manager? The route always seems to be coach first. I really don’t understand why you’d appoint someone completely inexperienced for a role based on their name, unless you’re just trying to pump and dump the club.
 

SBT

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Not sure I’d call Robins an elite English player. Southgate is a push and has hardly been successful in management a Boro.
You said decent, not elite!

My initial answer was just banter really but tbh they’re probably the best you’re gonna get
 

Gint11

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In hindsight he probably should have become a coach first or a number 2, get some experience and on the job training and become a manager, rather go in head first.
 

fatso

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His biggest mistake imo was not learning which jobs to take on.

Derby was a financial basket case, and no sane manager would of looked at it.

Birmingham was owned by idiots who'd just sacked John Eustace who had the team overachieving (much like he has at Blackburn) the fans were disgusted with the sacking of Eustace, and the players never gave Rooney a chance (according to their fans) so again, a bad choice for Rooney.

Plymouth was another case of a club with no money and no chance of building a squad that could survive in the championship.
Whoever went there was on a hiding to nothing. Relegation was and is inevitable.

It's as if Rooney was so desperate for a crack at management that he'd literally take any job available. That's been his undoing.
 

Covkid1968#

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When was the last decent English player who made a decent English manager? The route always seems to be coach first. I really don’t understand why you’d appoint someone completely inexperienced for a role based on their name, unless you’re just trying to pump and dump the club.
Stevie G did a great job in a really difficult league… oh hold on.. just checked and it was only Scotland.
 

shmmeee

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You said decent, not elite!

My initial answer was just banter really but tbh they’re probably the best you’re gonna get

You know what I mean though. Hardly “names” like Rooney Lampard Gerrard etc.

Why anyone in a competitive league would hire a manager with no track record is beyond me. Let people learn their craft.
 

shmmeee

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Just looking. Robins first management job he went player > Assistant > Manager. That’s a reasonable route at a club. Not appointed out the blue.

Southgate closer but still a player at the club before managing them.
 

covcity4life

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His biggest mistake imo was not learning which jobs to take on.

Derby was a financial basket case, and no sane manager would of looked at it.

Birmingham was owned by idiots who'd just sacked John Eustace who had the team overachieving (much like he has at Blackburn) the fans were disgusted with the sacking of Eustace, and the players never gave Rooney a chance (according to their fans) so again, a bad choice for Rooney.

Plymouth was another case of a club with no money and no chance of building a squad that could survive in the championship.
Whoever went there was on a hiding to nothing. Relegation was and is inevitable.

It's as if Rooney was so desperate for a crack at management that he'd literally take any job available. That's been his undoing.
He does take shit jobs but he's also shown very little to make anyone think he is a good manager.

Doesn't talk a good game doesn't play a good game.
 

Skyblueweeman

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I said when he was appointed that he'd be gone by Xmas and I was almost right.

The one thing I will say though is that he had a dreadful injury list to deal with at Plymouth so I do feel a little sorry for him. Didn't he have to give a 17yr old a debut against us as they were that low on numbers?

I think he'll likely stick to commentary now and if he ever fancies getting back into management, would need to look at L1 or L2 (or maybe the US again).
 

oscillatewildly

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When was the last decent English player who made a decent English manager? The route always seems to be coach first. I really don’t understand why you’d appoint someone completely inexperienced for a role based on their name, unless you’re just trying to pump and dump the club.
You probably have to go back to 1966 WC winning team.
Jack Charlton was instrumental in Leeds decade of minor success/incredible catalogue of 'almost' as a player. Did OK at club level management but fully deserving of his 'legend' status with Rep Ireland international tenure.
 

Hobo

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You probably have to go back to 1966 WC winning team.
Jack Charlton was instrumental in Leeds decade of minor success/incredible catalogue of 'almost' as a player. Did OK at club level management but fully deserving of his 'legend' status with Rep Ireland international tenure.

Bobby Robson and Brian Clough were both more than decent as players and even better managers.
 

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