When was the last decent English player who made a decent English manager? The route always seems to be coach first. I really don’t understand why you’d appoint someone completely inexperienced for a role based on their name, unless you’re just trying to pump and dump the club.
It's not just Plymouth.His record of managing English clubs is 125 games 125 points, 1 point a game gets you religation.
Not sure why I've been posted a turd for making a factual statement. Having lived in amongst die-hard Rangers fans for the majority of my life, I know fine that playing second fiddle to Celtic is not regarded as a great job.And he didn't do a great job - most of the time Rangers came 2nd behind Celtic.
behaveWas he really that good as a player? I'm not so sure
Challenge. Because they were prepared to give him a go when his stock was poor.I do wonder why the hell he was bothering with a job like that. Surely he doesn't need the money so unless he actively wants to avoid being at home much why the hell would he take such an obviously difficult job so far away from where he is based?
Rooney was a great player, although was never quite as spectacular after his England? injury. I said at the start of the season Rooney was a gift to the other teams fighting relegation, and it appears I have been proved right. Can see their old manager going back.This was inevitable to me. He just lacks most of the skill sets to be a manager. Was he really that good as a player? I'm not so sure. Playing in top teams presents you with a chance to make a name for yourself. He's not smart enough to take charge of a football club and I'd question the boards who appointed him. Names don't produce results.
Lampard is different. He has more skill sets, a family with football all around him. Harry Redknap etc. He at least stands a better chance and has made a half decent go of it elsewhere. With Lampard time will tell whether he's the guy to take to the promised land.
Rooney was a fine players ,great not sure he seemed to peak as player at 19.Rooney was a great player, although was never quite as spectacular after his England? injury. I said at the start of the season Rooney was a gift to the other teams fighting relegation, and it appears I have been proved right. Can see their old manager going back.
There is a long list of great players being very poor coaches/managers, although it has been getting better with the proper training available.
Lamps, the jury is out. Great managers usually look good everywhere they go. Not always the case, but have something about them.
Chelsea second time around was a poison chalice and Everton was not much better.
Lamps has been brought in to get us into the play offs in the next few years. If he doesn't, I feel it will be bye bye. This season is a free hit.
Rooney was a fine players ,great not sure he seemed to peak as player at 19.
Kevin Keegan at Newcastle (to a degree, albeit without winning anything). They played some brilliant football at times.When was the last decent English player who made a decent English manager? The route always seems to be coach first. I really don’t understand why you’d appoint someone completely inexperienced for a role based on their name, unless you’re just trying to pump and dump the club.
Kevin Keegan at Newcastle (to a degree, albeit without winning anything). They played some brilliant football at times.
Before that, Kenny Dalglish at Liverpool. 222 wins in 381 matches, 3 league titles, 2 FA Cups.
His first spell at Liverpool included three titles, two FA Cups and four Charity Shields in six years. He then won the league with Blackburn in 1995. Hard to argue that was not a success?I hope you're sitting down mate, I need to break something to you about Kenny Daglish
His first spell at Liverpool included three titles, two FA Cups and four Charity Shields in six years. He then won the league with Blackburn in 1995. Hard to argue that was not a success?
His later terms at Newcastle and at Celtic were less successful, but four league titles with two clubs is hardly a failure, surely?
Fair enough, but at least a British player who made his career in England and then managed in England too.Haha! He's a success alright, but a Scottish one!
Fair enough, but at least a British player who made his career in England and then managed in England too.
Fucking hell re: was he that good a playerThis was inevitable to me. He just lacks most of the skill sets to be a manager. Was he really that good as a player? I'm not so sure. Playing in top teams presents you with a chance to make a name for yourself. He's not smart enough to take charge of a football club and I'd question the boards who appointed him. Names don't produce results.
Lampard is different. He has more skill sets, a family with football all around him. Harry Redknap etc. He at least stands a better chance and has made a half decent go of it elsewhere. With Lampard time will tell whether he's the guy to take to the promised land.
Only just getting over that splurge of spending really and someone getting control of the ground,to be fan owned for a period I think.They are thin on the ground.
Wad Redknapp the last English manager to win a trophy, FA Cup with Pompey?
I heard on a podcast that fA charge 5 times more for coaching badges than in Spain and Italy etc which may be why only rich former top pros seem to get themThey are thin on the ground.
Wad Redknapp the last English manager to win a trophy, FA Cup with Pompey?
I heard on a podcast that fA charge 5 times more for coaching badges than in Spain and Italy etc which may be why only rich former top pros seem to get them
Did we get him fired when he was at Brum too?
t certainly charges a lot moreHave read that somewhere
He came from a working class background unlike FL.Problem is for people like Rooney is they've never had to deal with adversity. He made it really young, went to the biggest club in the world, with the best manager, surrounded by the best players. He never had to work his way up or work hard at anything.
You don't have the career Rooney had without 100% dedication, hard work and sacrifice.Problem is for people like Rooney is they've never had to deal with adversity. He made it really young, went to the biggest club in the world, with the best manager, surrounded by the best players. He never had to work his way up or work hard at anything.
He came from a working class background unlike FL.
He probably is finished as a manager , FLYou don't have the career Rooney had without 100% dedication, hard work and sacrifice.
Yes he had a god given talent, but so have many players who've never made it.
There are plenty of kids tipped for the top who disappeared without trace.
To suggest he never had to work, and everything just dropped in his lap is rediculous.
Man Utd under Alex Ferguson was probably the most demanding environment in British football. Many talented players failed there.
To survive, flourish, and become world class took 100% commitment
Rooney is not articulate as FL but does that make FL a better manager, let's see over the next few months.So what? He was in the first team at 16. Like I said he's not had to deal with adversity. Frank too, yeah.
They didn't drop down the leagues like a lot of good pros do.
Rooney needs to pack it in now. He doesn't have the skills etc to be a manager..simply more articulate, but a better manager let's see ,.
When was the last decent English player who made a decent English manager? The route always seems to be coach first. I really don’t understand why you’d appoint someone completely inexperienced for a role based on their name, unless you’re just trying to pump and dump the club.
He's really good as a pundit. Gives a great insight on the game.Back to sky to tell the other managers how to do it
He's really good as a pundit. Gives a great insight on the game.
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