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Nick

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I had heard that subbed players can go off anywhere but they are also stopping attacking players from being near the wall in free kicks.

That's a bit rubbish.
 

Liquid Gold

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The sub one is very welcome. I'm still fuming about the Crawley (?) player going down injured ion the corner only for the physio to take 10 minutes walking over to him, 10 minutes to treat him and 10 minutes to walk him back over only for 2 minutes added on.
 

sw88

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Sure I read somewhere about the potential of no rebounds from penaltys?

Hasn’t that always been a thing if the taker hits the post (as he’d effectively be touching the ball twice?) not sure how they could stop other players getting on the rebound though since the ball is effectively back in play and free for anyone to touch? Be a bit shit if they stopped play after one was saved / hit the woodwork?
 

kg82

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Sure I read somewhere about the potential of no rebounds from penaltys?

Yeah, I’ve read that. So you hit woodwork or keeper saves and you can’t follow up and game restarts with a goal kick, I think (to answer Nicks question).
 

Nick

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Yeah, I’ve read that. So you hit woodwork or keeper saves and you can’t follow up and game restarts with a goal kick, I think (to answer Nicks question).

If that did happen it would be stupid. I can't see a reason for it.
 

CCFC88

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Hence why I now don’t read Sky Sports or sport bible (the absolute worst “sporting” journalism I’ve ever read).
If you ever read "Sport bible" for journalistic reasons you were a long way off the mark.

The story was reported by Sky sports and Marca in Spain, not a bunch of students on Facebook/Twitter creating clickbait
 

Sky Blue Harry H

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I heard that goalkeeper can pass to his own player in the box from a goal kick (used to have to leave the area). Don't want us doing too much of that with our bobbly pitch!
 

Sky Blue Harry H

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I had heard that subbed players can go off anywhere

Hope the ref books them if they don't go off at the nearest point - still wouldn't stop the player taking ages to come on, but suppose the ref can either book him, or restart play anyway?

Edit: the rules say must (not can) - that's better!
Attackers can be within 1 metre of the wall - that'll be fun - VAR etc when managers are arguing about how close someone was
 

Nick

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The ball not having to leave the box is a strange one.

Can attackers go into the box for a goal kick?
 

Nick

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yes the ball is in play from the moment it is kicked

I mean before it's kicked.

So in theory the defender could stand in the 6 yard box to get it straight away without an attacker near him. Whereas before the attacker could stand next to the defender outside the box and pressure them.
 

rhino1002

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I mean before it's kicked.

So in theory the defender could stand in the 6 yard box to get it straight away without an attacker near him. Whereas before the attacker could stand next to the defender outside the box and pressure them.
The details I have read don't comment on that but i would imagine they would have to be 10 yards from the ball like any other free kick
but i assume they can be in the box but not within 10 yards
 

Adge

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The details I have read don't comment on that but i would imagine they would have to be 10 yards from the ball like any other free kick
but i assume they can be in the box but not within 10 yards
No-all opposition have to be out of the box when the kick is taken-the ball doesn’t have to now leave the box before it is in play-ie so if the ball is kicked slowly by the keeper, an attacker can run in before the ball has left the box as long as he was outside the box before the ball was kicked.
 

Adge

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I had heard that subbed players can go off anywhere but they are also stopping attacking players from being near the wall in free kicks.

That's a bit rubbish.
The wall one is very welcome as what is an attacking player gaining apart from being an arse from being in a defensive wall?
Think of Steve Hodge against Cov in the League cup semi-final and it’s sorts out all that nonsense.
 

robbiekeane

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Attackers can be within 1 metre of the wall - that'll be fun - VAR etc when managers are arguing about how close someone was
I think this rule is stupid. Can't see any reason for it at all - players are all entitled to the same space outside of however many yards away they need to be.
 

Irish Sky Blue

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Players who know they're being subbed will just move to the middle of the pitch instead now
I understand why they are tinkering with things like this, but the easy way to stop any sort of time wasting is simply to add the time on. Why don’t referees do this? If time added on regularly 8, 9 10 minutes in stead of the current 3, 4, of 5 it might make teams stop doing it. Perhaps timekeeping needs to be done by a separate official.
 

Irish Sky Blue

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Also, what is supposed to happen when a player goes down injured after a foul which results in the offender being yellow carded? I thought that in this circumstance the injured player was allowed to resume without the need to go off. That seemed to be the case for a while but seems to have reverted back to being physio on, injured player off.
 

Nick

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Also, what is supposed to happen when a player goes down injured after a foul which results in the offender being yellow carded? I thought that in this circumstance the injured player was allowed to resume without the need to go off. That seemed to be the case for a while but seems to have reverted back to being physio on, injured player off.

Yes they don't need to go off. It seems some refs forget it though.
 

Adge

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Also, what is supposed to happen when a player goes down injured after a foul which results in the offender being yellow carded? I thought that in this circumstance the injured player was allowed to resume without the need to go off. That seemed to be the case for a while but seems to have reverted back to being physio on, injured player off.
That still is the case-if a player gets injured by a tackle that produces a caution for the opponent-that player receiving treatment does not have leave the pitch.
 

Irish Sky Blue

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That still is the case-if a player gets injured by a tackle that produces a caution for the opponent-that player receiving treatment does not have leave the pitch.
A few occasions last season the injured player still had to leave the field.
 

Adge

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Ah, it may be if they both require treatment after a tackle and one gets cautioned then the guilty player has to leave whereas the other doesn’t. You’ve got me all confused now (doesn’t take much) and I’ll have a check.
 

Adge

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Here it is-if there is still going to be a delay they still have to leave-good job I checked!

Previously, an injured player who received medical attention on the field of play must leave before the restart. This can be unfair if an opponent caused the injury as the offending team has a numerical advantage when play restarts.
5. Treatment/assessment after a caution/sending-off
However, this requirement was introduced because players often unsportingly used an injury to delay the restart for tactical reasons.
As a balance between these two unfair situations, The IFAB has decided that only for a physical offence where the opponent is cautioned or sent off, an injured player can be quickly assessed/treated and then remain on the field of play.
In principle, the delay should not be any longer than currently occurs when a medical person(s) comes on the field to assess an injury. The difference is that the point at which the referee used to require the medical person(s) and the player to leave is now the point at which the medical staff leave but the player can remain.
To ensure the injured player does not use/extend the delay unfairly, referees are advised to:
• be aware of the match situation and any potential tactical reason to delay the restart
• inform the injured player that if medical treatment is required it must be quick
• signal for the medical person(s) (not the stretchers) and, if possible, remind them to be quick
When the referee decides play should restart either:
• the medical person(s) leaves and the player remains or
• the player leaves for further assessment/treatment (stretcher signal may be
necessary)
As a general guide, the restart should not be delayed for more than about 20–25 seconds beyond the point when everyone was ready for play to restarted.
 

Nick

Administrator
Here it is-if there is still going to be a delay they still have to leave-good job I checked!

Previously, an injured player who received medical attention on the field of play must leave before the restart. This can be unfair if an opponent caused the injury as the offending team has a numerical advantage when play restarts.
5. Treatment/assessment after a caution/sending-off
However, this requirement was introduced because players often unsportingly used an injury to delay the restart for tactical reasons.
As a balance between these two unfair situations, The IFAB has decided that only for a physical offence where the opponent is cautioned or sent off, an injured player can be quickly assessed/treated and then remain on the field of play.
In principle, the delay should not be any longer than currently occurs when a medical person(s) comes on the field to assess an injury. The difference is that the point at which the referee used to require the medical person(s) and the player to leave is now the point at which the medical staff leave but the player can remain.
To ensure the injured player does not use/extend the delay unfairly, referees are advised to:
• be aware of the match situation and any potential tactical reason to delay the restart
• inform the injured player that if medical treatment is required it must be quick
• signal for the medical person(s) (not the stretchers) and, if possible, remind them to be quick
When the referee decides play should restart either:
• the medical person(s) leaves and the player remains or
• the player leaves for further assessment/treatment (stretcher signal may be
necessary)
As a general guide, the restart should not be delayed for more than about 20–25 seconds beyond the point when everyone was ready for play to restarted.
To sum it up, the ref is wrong if it isn't benefiting ccfc.
 

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