Grendel
Well-Known Member
No we wouldn't. A senior figure at the time thought the club were a huge obstacle that prevented it from rivalling the NEC.
He convinced the council this was a big money earner and would be a huge success.
if SISU had dealt honestly with the council from day one we would have the Ricoh arena not wasps so who's to blame
Was going to say myself , that had ccc been honest and upfront from the day it was built , wasps wouldn't be here either.No we wouldn't. A senior figure at the time thought the club were a huge obstacle that prevented it from rivalling the NEC.
He convinced the council this was a big money earner and would be a huge success.
The fact that we're hailing Hoffman (vice chairman under sisu) and Elliot (the man who went round people's houses to take their shares of them for sisu) as potential saviours shows the absolute state we're in.
/puts hand upDid you realise and say at the time what a disaster Sisu were going to be?
When Sisu first took over, like most City fans, I was pleased. I thought it was a new beginning with wealthy owners. Did you realise and say at the time what a disaster Sisu were going to be? Elliot and Hoffman involved in the running of the club or continue with Sisu? You would sooner have Sisu? Both Elliot and Hoffman jumped ship fairly early on in Sisu's tenure once they had realised what was going on. Both are genuine City fans who travel home and away. It would be good to have a complete break from the past but the ultimate goal at the moment should surely be getting rid of Sisu and having someone in charge with the best interests of CCFC.
It's a fucking stupid question. Only a few sad bitter CCFC fans who want to blame anyone but Sisu think Wasps are "unethical". The link is more tenuous than a very tenuous thing. There are no protests against Wasps, most people have no issue with them being here. It's just a crutch those desperate to blame others for our predicament cling on to.
It's really sad.
Because the chances of anybody other than them , or persons known to them buying this club is virtually nil.As for the rest, move on from Elliot (especially) and Hoffman.
They've been part of the problem, so why the hell would we want anybody from past boards back, when they've caused the mess?!?
Why the hell can't we have a new broom, with new owners and new board members untainted by incompetence and ineptitude?
Who in their right mind would settle for same old, same old?!?
The thing with Elliott what annoys some people, is the claims he made at the time of the takeover, that sisu were the only show in town. That was never tested, the vested interests of the previous owners wouldn't allow us go into administration because of the millions they were owned. So we ended up with 400 grand a year ranson and sisu.
Saying that, I'm sure he's a big fan of the club and a decent bloke, never met the fella.
Only because people lazily bring them up as the only option!Because the chances of anybody other than them , or persons known to them buying this club is virtually nil.
As far as we are aware sisu are not actively looking to sell , you must agree that is is highly unlikely that anyone with no connections to this city at all would contemplate buying it , especially with 10 years + of negative press.Only because people lazily bring them up as the only option!
It's as bad as saying SISU are and were our only option.
And when and if they are, people will come forward.As far as we are aware sisu are not actively looking to sell
It's a fucking stupid question. Only a few sad bitter CCFC fans who want to blame anyone but Sisu think Wasps are "unethical". The link is more tenuous than a very tenuous thing. There are no protests against Wasps, most people have no issue with them being here. It's just a crutch those desperate to blame others for our predicament cling on to.
It's really sad.
The thing with Elliott what annoys some people, is the claims he made at the time of the takeover, that sisu were the only show in town. That was never tested, the vested interests of the previous owners wouldn't allow us go into administration because of the millions they were owned. So we ended up with 400 grand a year ranson and sisu.
Saying that, I'm sure he's a big fan of the club and a decent bloke, never met the fella.
Only because people lazily bring them up as the only option!
It's as bad as saying SISU are and were our only option.
Elliott is alright to run promotional events and glad hand visitors but a top notch business strategist he ain't.
Would rather have Brian McFadden or Frankie Muniz...the problem is NW that any hard nosed business person looking to buy a football club is unlikely to touch us with a barge pole.
I think it needs someone with emotional attachment to push things along. GH and JE are probably the only two with any connections and with any attachment to the club whatever their previous misdemeanours.
No we wouldn't. A senior figure at the time thought the club were a huge obstacle that prevented it from rivalling the NEC.
He convinced the council this was a big money earner and would be a huge success.
Would rather have Brian McFadden or Frankie Muniz...
Would anybody have heard of Hoffman if he wasn't SISU's first vice-chairman? (incidentally, there were often statements he was Robinson's son-in-law, I assume this was nonsense?)
As for Elliott, what connections could he come up with that other reasonably successful local businessmen couldn't?!? I'd say the fact we can't reel off a list is an advantage, it shows they don't have a profile by virtue of being associated with the dismal failure of our football club!
The only reason they have a profile is because of their failures.
A legally agreed rent which SISU agreed to.correct me if I'm wrong did the council withhold rent no did SISU yes and I don't care what the rent was its irrelevant
Wasps being here can be directly linked to Sisu taking us to Northampton. It is down to Sisu that they are here. However I think that they are as much of a franchise as MK Dons and have left the communities in which they started and who supported and kept them going. They have no affinity or connection to this area and are simply here because of an opportunistic business deal. I hope that in the long run they fail and that we can get back the stadium that was built for us.
I hope that in the long run they fail and that we can get back the stadium that was built for us.
We are back at the stadium that was built for us ?
It can also be directly linked to before Northampton too
If Wasps leave it won't be ours either.It's not ours though. Re-read what he posted
I thought Wasps only came on the scene when SISU took the club to Northampton?
If Wasps leave it won't be ours either.
If Sisu ever got round to buy it after they leave it won't be ours either.
I thought Wasps only came on the scene when SISU took the club to Northampton?
Just have to wait and see. Hopefully, new owners coming in can buy a % off Wasps or if Wasps go bust, they can buy the Ricoh for CCFC.
Who knows what SISU would do with the Ricoh if they owned it.
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