At a moment like this I am more interested in us getting stronger than it may make someone else stronger.Nice try but that's nothing like what I said. Information has been leaked out deliberately, knowing who by is another piece of the puzzle that might allow us to see the bigger picture.
If Wasps were involved I would consider that a very important detail as I would have serious concerns about their motives. Do you really want the club to be used as a pawn in enabling Wasps to get a lucrative naming rights contract that benefits them and not us?
Yeah SISU really that simple.50% of transfer fees for 5 years sounds good. Who said they have to sell? If they wanted us to compete they would keep our best players.
Or have all transfers as undisclosed and tell SISU it was a tenner.
Which is what Nick, Dave and others have been saying and getting moaned at for it.
All well and good saying we need to see all the details so we can scrutinise them and then make an informed decision. Either before anything is agreed or after a deal is signed. But in reality what's the point? Whatever happens will happen and 'Big Dave off the internet' not liking some of the terms released isn't going to change anything either way.
All well and good saying we need to see all the details so we can scrutinise them and then make an informed decision. Either before anything is agreed or after a deal is signed. But in reality what's the point? Whatever happens will happen and 'Big Dave off the internet' not liking some of the terms released isn't going to change anything either way.
But was Wolves owner prepared to sell? Then everybody was happy to find a price.
SISU seem not prepared to sell, so normal valuation is pointless.
Forget the spreadsheets and go ask them directly the question we all want the answer to: What will it take for you to sell - what terms and conditions must a buyer accept and what will be the proper process?
Grow up you drama queenWhat makes you think Joy isn't prepared to sell? If you allow SISU to dictate terms a sale is never going to happen. We may as well all give up now, except the inevitable end that the club is heading for and start a phoenix club now.
You are very likely right to do so Which is precisely why there must be fans asking questions. Not because in all likelihood Hoffman is not the better option but because the future of the club is so precarious the next owner has to be the right one not just a better one.
Anyone reading this thinking I am putting his bid down or fighting against it would be quite wrong and should read my posts more carefully
Just want people to go in to ownership change with eyes wide open
There is no way we will see all the details, and why should we, we are not the ones putting money up to buy the club. Giving out details such as investors and proof of funds before a deal is agreed in principal would be mental, and akin to showing your hand in a game of poker. After any deal is done it would be nice to know who is involved and their plans for the club going forward, until that point we are bit part players. I just hope a deal can be done it would make buying a season ticket a much easier decision.All well and good saying we need to see all the details so we can scrutinise them and then make an informed decision. Either before anything is agreed or after a deal is signed. But in reality what's the point? Whatever happens will happen and 'Big Dave off the internet' not liking some of the terms released isn't going to change anything either way.
Win win ?SISU sell to Hoffman -> club signs long term rent deal at the Ricoh -> New name sponsor revealed at the Ricoh -> Delayed valuation of the Ricoh stays the same -> WASPS bond scheme secured
Not saying we have to see all the details there are some good reasons that some details have to remain private. The details we do see create questions or should do. Why be scared or apathetic about asking, if we accept we have no influence we shouldn't be surprised or moan when we don't. Never been one for blind acceptance I don't expect that from my clients I have no problem with them asking questions in fact I encourage it. It is how I operate that should be obvious to any one on here. It doesn't imply criticism or undermining or anti, it is interest and clarification.
It isn't that it is Hoffman either, I would raise questions in much the same way as I would of anyone seeking to own our club. Just because they are not Sisu or Fisher does not mean I shouldn't ask.
We got in to this mess by blind acceptance and not questioning. We can't afford it to happen again however well intentioned the start or how big a fan the new owner might be things can turn out badly. I hope in this case for the best outcome.
Don't see the problem, certainly don't see it as weakening a bid in fact it could help strengthen it. If Hoffman saw it as a problem that would worry me a lot, I strongly suspect he doesn't
For who? The club would be giving sisu more money than they do now and locked into a long term deal at the wasps at their mercy.Win win ?
Aye, a good owner would work to clarify any misunderstandings, and reassure any doubts...If Hoffman saw it as a problem that would worry me a lot, I strongly suspect he doesn't
You stick with Sisu then. Good luck.For who? The club would be giving sisu more money than they do now and locked into a long term deal at the wasps at their mercy.
You stick with Sisu then. Good luck.
I'm moving to not going under Sisu camp.
Pathetic even for you.
I'd be pathetic to keep putting up with this nonsense under Sisu.
It may change but that's how I feel at the moment. It's a lost cause.
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Source ?Latest update: Hoffman given extra funds by new business men this morning and Joy is at Higgs with a team of advisors. She was advised not to go to Ricoh for her safety. Are we on the verge of a takeover?
Source ?
Latest update: Hoffman given extra funds by new business men this morning and Joy is at Higgs with a team of advisors. She was advised not to go to Ricoh for her safety. Are we on the verge of a takeover?
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You stick with Sisu then. Good luck.
I'm moving to not going under Sisu camp.
I'll just stick with ccfc.You stick with Sisu then. Good luck.
I'm moving to not going under Sisu camp.
I'd be pathetic to keep putting up with this nonsense under Sisu.
It may change but that's how I feel at the moment. It's a lost cause.
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