Ruud Van Nistelrooy applies for Coventry Job (5 Viewers)

[HuckerbyDublinWhelan]

Well, like I said in another post he left Norwich in 5th place the same year we got to the play offs. Has the game changed that much?

I’d take Dean Smith 2bh. I fell like his name hasn’t been looked at due to the more favourable names as it were coming out in the media and bookies.

 

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[Brighton Sky Blue]

Well, like I said in another post he left Norwich in 5th place the same year we got to the play offs. Has the game changed that much?

Much of this seems to come down to vibes

 

[False9]

Well, like I said in another post he left Norwich in 5th place the same year we got to the play offs. Has the game changed that much?

I didn't remember that but the below doesn't sound like success

"Fifth in the table and twelve points off the top two; sporting director Stuart Webber said the decision was taken to "give ourselves the best possible chance of achieving our objective of promotion to the Premier League this season", whilst pundits also criticised Smith for his style of play.

 

[The CableGuy]

I wouldn't be opposed to this. A former elite striker working with our army of strikers? Bloody yes please! The contacts he has at Utd and in the Dutch league could be useful going forward and his name would attract talent here.

He'd probably leave if we get promoted but I'll be happy to cross that bridge when the time comes.

 

[SBT]

A former elite striker working with our army of strikers? Bloody yes please! The contacts he has at Utd could be useful going forward and his name would attract talent here.

 

[False9]

Much of this seems to come down to vibes

You can say that or you could say the bloke who's only managerial job had 64% win rate is a better bet than Dean Smith who coaches in America and has two successive relegations on the cv

 

[Brighton Sky Blue]

You can say that or you could say the bloke who's only managerial job had 64% win rate is a better bet than Dean Smith who coaches in America and has two successive relegations on the cv

Managing PSV in the Netherlands isn’t far off managing Celtic in the SPL. Smith doesn’t excite me either, for the record.

Horneland remains who I’d look more closely at but let’s be honest, for every reason you can find in favour of RvN, Lampard or whoever, there’s a good reason to be skeptical.

 

[False9]

Managing PSV in the Netherlands isn’t far off managing Celtic in the SPL. Smith doesn’t excite me either, for the record.

Horneland remains who I’d look more closely at but let’s be honest, for every reason you can find in favour of RvN, Lampard or whoever, there’s a good reason to be skeptical.

I agree they all have an element of risk but Ruud isn't tainted with failure, yet...

 

[Johhny Blue]

Can anyone think of any other ex M. U. player that succeeded in Management?

 

[Brighton Sky Blue]

I agree they all have an element of risk but Ruud isn't tainted with failure, yet...

Because to fail at PSV he’d have had to have a screw loose. The point is there is no standout candidate because there are some question marks about how all of them will handle our particular situation

 

[Brighton Sky Blue]

Can anyone think of any other ex M. U. player that succeeded in Management?

Steve Bruce succeeded at some clubs to be fair.

 

[Evo1883]

Managing PSV in the Netherlands isn’t far off managing Celtic in the SPL. Smith doesn’t excite me either, for the record.

Horneland remains who I’d look more closely at but let’s be honest, for every reason you can find in favour of RvN, Lampard or whoever, there’s a good reason to be skeptical.

Not quite , atleast in Holland there's been 5 different champions in the past 15 years

It's Europe's 6th best league

 

[COVKIDSNEVERQUIT]

Can anyone think of any other ex M. U. player that succeeded in Management?

Wayne Rooney is making a living out of it isn't he, even though he's not being successful.

 

[SBT]

Can anyone think of any other ex M. U. player that succeeded in Management?

Nicely played

 

[ovduk78]

Steve Bruce succeeded at some clubs to be fair.

Steve Coppell did OK at Palace as well

 

[Brighton Sky Blue]

Not quite , atleast in Holland there's been 5 different champions in the past 15 years

The competition is small and PSV are certainly one of the big dogs. Not much overlap with what would be on the cards for him here.

 

[pusbccfc]

Surprised at the hype around RVN. Is it because he's not an English manager?

 

[Otis]

I still have reservations about wether king will pay for this calibre of appointment

Yeah, you have to wonder which is the cheapest, Rhys Carr or Ruud Van Nistelrooy.

 

[Evo1883]

The competition is small and PSV are certainly one of the big dogs. Not much overlap with what would be on the cards for him here.

They are are a big club but I think the league is substantially better than the SPL

 

[fernandopartridge]

I didn't remember that but the below doesn't sound like success

"Fifth in the table and twelve points off the top two; sporting director Stuart Webber said the decision was taken to "give ourselves the best possible chance of achieving our objective of promotion to the Premier League this season", whilst pundits also criticised Smith for his style of play.

Yeah, they finished 13th and Webber was later sacked.

 

[Brighton Sky Blue]

They are are a big club but I think the league is substantially better than the SPL

I didn’t say the league was similar but the gap in quality is comparable

 

[skybluecam]

For context, PSV’s cup run that season saw them beat a second division side in the QFs and a third division side in the semis. They beat Ajax in the final on penalties.

So he's good at getting easy draws then, that's a plus

 

[mmttww]

This interview he did with Gary Neville also painted him in a good light - he seems intelligent, level-headed, and keen to learn in a way that I haven’t generally seen from the English players of that same generation as they have moved into management - Gerrard, Lampard, Rooney, et al.

Yeah, he made a pretty good impression when I saw that a while ago. Not sold on him completely but he seems to have something about him.

 

[David O'Day]

Surprised at the hype around RVN. Is it because he's not an English manager?

it's because he's had a short but genuinely excellent management career

2nd to a Slot led Feyenoord and a cup win plus he did pretty good at united

 

[shmmeee]

Can anyone think of any other ex M. U. player that succeeded in Management?

Mark Robins did OK

 

[Tommo1993]

Can anyone think of any other ex M. U. player that succeeded in Management?

Took the liberty of looking at Mark Hughes’ record. Thought it would’ve been better tbh

 

[PVA]

Because Norwich subsequently got promoted once he was gone. He left with them sitting in 5th place in the Championship on 27 Dec 2022.

They finished 13th.

Norwich fans hated him. Especially as he came in for a very popular manager who the majority didn't want sacked (sounds familiar!).

 

[Evo1883]

For context, PSV’s cup run that season saw them beat a second division side in the QFs and a third division side in the semis. They beat Ajax in the final on penalties.

I suppose if we can take anything from his psv side that season is they scored the most goals in the league 89

They did lose to rangers in champions league qualifying after beating Monaco, but they came 2nd in their europa league group and beat arsenal 2-0 and they scored 15 goals in 6 group games .. they were knocked out 3-2 by sevilla who won the tournament


My take is a RVN coventry team would be very attacking

 

[David O'Day]

Because to fail at PSV he’d have had to have a screw loose. The point is there is no standout candidate because there are some question marks about how all of them will handle our particular situation

nah, Ajax are the Celtic and Feyenoord are a bigger club as well.

It's like being Aberdeen manager

 

[Ccfcisparks]

Ruud gets us the attention appointing lampard would, without the baggage of his failures and unlike Carsley has managed at club level. More likely to excite the fan base than someone like Smith too.

 

[Evo1883]

nah, Ajax are the Celtic and Feyenoord are a bigger club as well.

It's like being Aberdeen manager

PSV have won 9 more titles than feyenoord

 

[Torquay Sky Blue]

Can anyone think of any other ex M. U. player that succeeded in Management?

Noel Cantwell

 

[rexo87]

nah, Ajax are the Celtic and Feyenoord are a bigger club as well.

It's like being Aberdeen manager

not really. PSV won it last season, the year after he left, and only lost 1 game

 

[Mucca Mad Boys]

Managing PSV in the Netherlands isn’t far off managing Celtic in the SPL. Smith doesn’t excite me either, for the record.

Horneland remains who I’d look more closely at but let’s be honest, for every reason you can find in favour of RvN, Lampard or whoever, there’s a good reason to be skeptical.

There are plenty of top class managers coming out of the Eredivisie though. Arne Slot is currently dominating the Prem and ETH’s Ajax performed well in the Champions League.

In general, it is an uncompetitive league but the standard of managers and players coming out of the league is way ahead of the SPL.

 

[Sky Blue Goblin]

Least Rhys Carr would be happy