To All City Fans, I have tried my best to sum up the salient points from tonights as best I can, fully realise may miss some things but here goes.
Meeting lasted from 6 to 8.15.
Tim started off by trying to give his own version of events by saying the problems started at Highfield Road.... This was quickly shot down as I annd others reminded him that was History , and it was SISU's responsibility to apply due diligence when they took over.
Pretty much everyone stated that if the club ground shared it would be dead.
Some fans were not against a new stadium ( but not groundshare)
TF acknowledges that the gates would be poor in the interim
Talked a lot about football being a business, however in the long term reckoned they would progress as they would have all the benefits of owning a stadium.
TF very much takes the stance that they are being forced out
He very much stated it would not be walsall
I asked him how much the legal action was costing to challenge the council..answered 100K!!
Cant remeber much else, but can assure those present ( 10 in total) gave a ggod account of themselves on behalf of ALL genuine city fans ( Trust or not)
This was organised by the Trust .
There was around 30-40 protesters outside the training ground ?
Out of 2000 members how many of the Trust was in this Protest ?
Was there a vote on who and how many of the Trust members was aloud to go ?
Respect to all that turned up but I think the Trust are letting everyone down or no one can give a shit anymore !
Made me LOL
This was organised by the Trust .
There was around 30-40 protesters outside the training ground ?
Out of 2000 members how many of the Trust was in this Protest ?
Was there a vote on who and how many of the Trust members was aloud to go ?
Respect to all that turned up but I think the Trust are letting everyone down or no one can give a shit anymore !
He very much stated it would not be walsall
My guess is The Ricoh, but he is trying ti find away to save face.
Or Why??...........
You never mentioned you're a toilet cleaner before.
Youve made it clear they dont represent you personally so again I ask why are you concerned they havent let you down so:wave:
you do understand that your coming across as a childish prickThis was organised by the Trust .
There was around 30-40 protesters outside the training ground ?
Out of 2000 members how many of the Trust was in this Protest ?
Was there a vote on who and how many of the Trust members was aloud to go ?
Respect to all that turned up but I think the Trust are letting everyone down or no one can give a shit anymore !
Not a problem, the main thing is we got our views across.many thanks BB, my emotions were running high and couldnt recollect everything. apologies again for hooging parts of the meeting!
you do understand that your coming across as a childish prick
Do you know rich, I think you could be right.
If your still around Steve what is the Trusts opinion of Yesterdays meeting ? Do you sense a shift in approach from the Admin ? Do you think he's showing a more balanced/Neutral view and more importantly following the remit of administrator to the letter?
I was the Aylesbury bloke there tonight (with one of my sons). I was one of those invited, after having spoken to TF on the phone a couple of weeks ago, I made it clear then, in the survey and tonight that I would not renew my season ticket if we were to be moved outside of Cov, however I’m not against a ground move away from the Ricoh in the long term, along as we remain in Cov in the meantime, whilst a suitable/accessible venue is sorted out. Again, this was pressed home tonight.
I agree with most of what lifelongcityfan has put, although I don’t recall TF actually saying that the ground share wouldn’t be with Walsall, he indicated that there were 3 options, although wouldn’t clarify exactly where. Likewise he wouldn’t say much about the new ground, apart from that they have employed someone who was involved in the design of the Reebok stadium. He confirmed that they are currently in the bidding process for land to build on.
As expected TF was very personable, but didn’t really tell us much that we didn’t know already. He couldn’t answer some questions (mainly historical stuff) and avoided others. He didn’t really have much of an answer to questions relating to FFP and the massive drop in income streams associated with crowds around the 2k mark.
TF was quite adamant in stating that CCFC is not for sale,but also that this has never been raised in any agenda’s/conversation with SISU. I believe that SISU will be here for the foreseeable future and that once they have re-acquired CCFC Ltd, then they will be in a position to talk again with ACL. I’ll be surprised if we’re not playing at the Ricoh next season.
Two issues which are not easy to reconcile are that the SISU are looking and treating this as a business (they have to) whilst we the fans have a far greater emotional attachment, which we need to continue to drum home in the right manner.
TF believes that there are plenty of players out there which will are available cheaply and will make us competitive throughout any transition. I’m actually in agreement with this, which is why Pressley is onboard and has bought into. He does believe that the Academy’s status is underthreat and that we may become a Centre of Excellence.
TF was made well aware of the fans feelings, which he knew anyway to be fair. He was also made aware of the PR gaffs that have taken place and that they could learn from the recent humble reaction of the Everton board with regard to their proposed change of badge. A full time PR guru wouldn’t go amiss and may get some of the fans back on board.
He did mention lots of dates, etc, but tbh I'm not interested on what's gone on in the past, you can't change it, I'm more concerned about the future, which is what most of my questions were directed at.I'm surprised he could'nt enlarge on some of the devastating Historical stuff as he was referring to it this Morning on the Radio giving the specific date Dec 19th 2003 board resolution.
Must be keeping that powder dry or maybe its not that devastating in a small group. The other odd thing is suggesting that not being for sale has never cropped up in communication with /SISU which occurs between him and Joy @ the very least every other day.
ooush ha ha haNo I don't understand ! Would you like to enlightened me ? or is the thread beyond you ?:jerkit:
Fisher was told that there should be a change of personnel on both sidess Sisu/Acl on tuesday presumably he didnt take me up on the suggestion to get in touch with AclMy problem is that everything is from there perspective and not any one else's, not talking to ACL and the Higgs centre could cause the academy status to be lost and football never to be played in the city's boundaries again! Didnt the trust mention a change in personal could be a way forward?
Also listening to the new bid for limited it seems to me they will be willing to talk to holdings! I still take these meetings as proposed plans, untill the administration period is over!
I was there tonight and I felt that every fan there made excellent points. Lifelong tied him in knots at times and Bucks got his comments across very well.
For those that were there, am I right in saying Fisher stated that Ltd wasn't worth a lot but they may show their interest at some point (or words to that effect anyway)?
Hi CJ
He did state that it was worthless, and i bet him that holdings would bid for it! and that they would pay the 60 ( debt/equity swop..no actaual cash changing hands) , at that point he looked uncomfortable, but he did agree that they would be bidding
I'm confused here. There's only one reason why he would/could have the email from Paul Appleton that was mentioned. If he/SISU had officially put in an indicative offer to buy it.
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