Sakamoto Injury (19 Viewers)

[Major Tom]

Don't think I'll ever go to the docs again, if I ever need any advice or diagnosis I will just drop into this chat..

 

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[Sky Blue Pete]

Guy in prison had a Broken pelvis undiagnosed for 3 days
The foot splayed out is a tell tale sign of a broken pelvis
Sakas are turned in on the picture with him on the ground hands over his face

Lucky to not have a serious injury from that height though if so

The prehospital management of pelvic fractures - PMC

Pelvic fractures are one of the potentially life‐threatening injuries that should be identified during the primary survey in patients sustaining major trauma. Early suspicion, identification and management of a pelvic fracture at the prehospital ...

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Rotational deformity of a lower limb I think is what it is

 

[Hobo]

I'm saying we have no idea what the damage is, and that even sending Saka home wouldn't rule out some sort of fracture. Yet people have now diagnosed a bruised coccyx! I'm glad he's not so badly hurt that he's on his feet, but that's a far cry from saying nothing's broken and he's fine.

Keeping everything crossed for him.

Even if it was a minor fracture of pelvis he would be on crutches. Walking and putting weight through his legs into his pelvis would not be recommended at this early stage.

 

[ptr]

Gone from being almost dead to being back against Maidstone on Monday. Great to have a medical team of ITK’s as well.

 

[Sick Boy]

Luckily it doesn't sound as serious as was being suggested on here.

 

[SBAndy]

Don't think I'll ever go to the docs again, if I ever need any advice or diagnosis I will just drop into this chat..

Undoubtedly quicker.

 

[Chris1987]

Errr, yes !

Broken or fractured bones need to mend/knit. They do that by staying next to each other. It's why broken arms and legs are held together with plaster casts. Pelvis could be plastered but if it's more discreet (chipped pelvic bone or coccyx bruising), you have to grin and bear it. Movement would normally come later to ensure muscles don't seize up.

Does movement not assist in the bone healing process ? I was led to understand that the contact between the broken components generated new bone which then compacted and hardened around the affected site. Plaster is used to keep everything in s a straight line.
I had a compound fracture of tabula & fibula years ago and because the bone was shattered there were gaps between the bones . No healing resulted which necessitated a bone graft operation at a later stage.

 

[Calista]

I never even saw the injury so have no idea what his problem is. I was just responding to your comment about staying in a hospital bed having any benefit. Depends on the injury. Some are fine to be plastered and the patient released. Others are by their nature unable to be dressed and the patient needs to be kept still. And hospital beds have air filled mattresses which can help with hip/back injuries.

We're at cross-purposes. I'm just cautioning against the notion on here that because Saka is on his feet we can diagnose 'nothing broken' or 'bruised coccyx'. I didn't say bed rest is never beneficial, just that it isn't always appropriate, even for significant injuries.

 

[SkyblueDad]

Any hint of a fracture there’s no way he would be out and about, I have my doubts this story of him being home so early after the incident is cosha

 

[Major Tom]

Undoubtedly quicker.

trouble is on this chat I would go in with a mild cold and come out with a pneumonia diagnosis

 

[Tommo1993]

How much was Sakamoto moving while he was down? Any limb movement is a very positive sign.

 

[shmmeee]

Bruised coccyx (your tailbone, situated at the bottom of your spine) is seriously fuckin' painful but does ease off after a while.

Did this on my wedding day. Photographer had a great idea of a photo of me and the best men jumping off a wall. I slipped and landed on my arse. Next day had a 10 hour flight to the states

 

[Happy_Martian]

We're at cross-purposes. I'm just cautioning against the notion on here that because Saka is on his feet we can diagnose 'nothing broken' or 'bruised coccyx'. I didn't say bed rest is never beneficial, just that it isn't always appropriate, even for significant injuries.

I apologise. Too used to members challenging almost every post I make.

 

[Sick Boy]

Any hint of a fracture there’s no way he would be out and about, I have my doubts this story of him being home so early after the incident is cosha

The only hint of a fracture has been online - hopefully it's not as bad as first feared.

 

[MalcSB]

Because on said forum, we talk about lots of things other than 90 minute blocks of football.

I was merely pointing out that comparing a footballer to Saville and Hitler was nonsense. Even if the player in question is hated when he's on the pitch.

Robbie Savage was a prick on the pitch but seems alright off it.

The context of this thread is violent conduct on the pitch causing serious harm to (our) players. In that context, whether a dirty bastard player raises thousands by crocheting for charity in their spare time is immaterial.

 

[Johnnythespider]

Did this on my wedding day. Photographer had a great idea of a photo of me and the best men jumping off a wall. I slipped and landed on my arse. Next day had a 10 hour flight to the states

 

[Nuskyblue]

If it is a broken pelvis, and it's severe, the mortality rate looks frighteningly high - some articles say around 1 in 3, depending on severity.

For a young lad who gives so much joy to suffer an injury like that is almost beyond belief. The footballing side doesn't matter right now, I just hope and pray he's okay.

Is the mortality rate so high because they are more commonly from things like car accidents which will also have a lot of other significant injuries due to the nature of the event?

 

[Hobo]

Gone from being almost dead to being back against Maidstone on Monday. Great to have a medical team of ITK’s as well.

Except nobody has said he will be back anytime soon.

 

[MalcSB]

trouble is on this chat I would go in with a mild cold and come out with a pneumonia diagnosis

Better than the other way around,

 

[Nuskyblue]

Robins is starting to develop a Roy Keane style of humour

He said it was the only header we won in the first half

Saka did well to flick it on, he wins a lot more in the air than you'd expect for a little lad.

 

[Skyblueweeman]

I'm not sure he is home to be honest.

 

[Calista]

Did this on my wedding day. Photographer had a great idea of a photo of me and the best men jumping off a wall. I slipped and landed on my arse. Next day had a 10 hour flight to the states

And you had work to do that night too.

 

[Nuskyblue]

I think this is a bit harsh. Sakamotos leap was almost gravity defying and in the speed of the moment I can’t see it a deliberate attempt to injure.

Bobby Thomas does the same thing and tries to roll the forward

It happens all the time but probably shouldn't.

I would say it wasn't a deliberate attempt to cause injury but I am certain the defender knew he was not going to win the challenge and could have pulled out.

He was comically late.

 

[Nuskyblue]

From watching the replay, if that kind of nudge happens to someone 6 foot they probably land on their feet. I don’t think it was to intentionally injure him more to stop him getting the ball. However it should still be punished as it is dangerous

They would and they do. Kane does this to 6ft + 13st defenders regularly. If you're pushed at that point in your leap you have no control of your landing (hence why it is outlawed in rugby).

 

[SBT]

Here's the full tweet

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The clarification about him walking slowly is strangely funny to me, as if he’s usually walking around the house doing shuttle runs and Cruyff turns

 

[Nuskyblue]

trouble is on this chat I would go in with a mild cold and come out with a pneumonia diagnosis

1/3 chance of surviving old chap.

Hope you haven't started a long book because you probably won't finish it old bean.

 

[ptr]

Unfortunately, I really doubt he is out of hospital and walking.

 

[Otis]

Don't think I'll ever go to the docs again, if I ever need any advice or diagnosis I will just drop into this chat..

It's brilliant. Thoroughly recommended.

They cured me of the diabetes I didn't have and fixed a potential, future ingrowing toenail.

Top bombing.

 

[Happy_Martian]

Broken pelvis ? 4-6 months and 1 in 3 cases are fatal.

@Otis, don't get sad. That was the rumour going around Twitter yesterday.

 

[Happy_Martian]

Does movement not assist in the bone healing process ? I was led to understand that the contact between the broken components generated new bone which then compacted and hardened around the affected site. Plaster is used to keep everything in s a straight line.
I had a compound fracture of tabula & fibula years ago and because the bone was shattered there were gaps between the bones . No healing resulted which necessitated a bone graft operation at a later stage.

I will bow to your better medical knowledge. As far as I know, movement doesn't improve bone knitting. Grandmother fractured her wrist and it was put in a cast from knuckle to her forearm. Movement was prevented while the bones knit. I was using knowledge obtained from Youtube, secondary Biology lessons and my Mums anecdotes, she worked at Walsgrave Hospital. Not the most impressive library of medical texts.

 

[Brighton Sky Blue]

Gone are the days when membership on here required a Level 5 OSB Accountancy Certificate, now it's all about which medical school you trained at.

 

[Happy_Martian]

Let's wait for official confirmation before writing him off or throwing him into the team against Maidstone.

More speculation won't help (and I'm as guilty of that as anyone).

 

[Boicey]

All I can say is I have a pelvis and I can tell you things about it.
Form queue here…..

 

[MikeyMoo]

Elvis! Elvis! Leave me be - keep that pelvis away from me!

 

[StrettoBoy]

I just hope that he is well enough to be able to live a normal life again, although obviously I will be chuffed to bits if he is able to play for us again and be at the same level.

I wouldn't blame him if he decides he has enough of the thuggery that passes for Championship football.