Sam mccallum (2 Viewers)
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Sky_Blue_Dreamer
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Not saying he is anywhere near ready. Just pointing out that they wanted us to bring in someone from lower down to develop. We have. Until McCallum came in Mason was the back up with Newton being trained in U23's.
ccfcway
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Bizarre to me how anyone can be anything other than happy about this. Today our squad has been strengthened.
With the money we got from him, it’s enabled us to strengthen for this season and yet he was here at the end of last season and the start of this.
If he went elsewhere, this place would have gone in meltdown around “why didn’t we get first refusal”.
Also have to remember Sam kept Giles out of the team last year so when Giles has his inevitable bad game, we have very adequate cover.
I’d say dacosta was a bigger gamble than this.
The wing backs were a position of strength last season and continue to be this season.
With the money we got from him, it’s enabled us to strengthen for this season and yet he was here at the end of last season and the start of this.
If he went elsewhere, this place would have gone in meltdown around “why didn’t we get first refusal”.
Also have to remember Sam kept Giles out of the team last year so when Giles has his inevitable bad game, we have very adequate cover.
I’d say dacosta was a bigger gamble than this.
The wing backs were a position of strength last season and continue to be this season.
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Johnnythespider
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If he's not good enough to play for a team pushing for promotion from the championship, what do they do with him if they get promoted, they are then in the premier league with a player 18 months into a 3 yr deal who won't have played a competitive match for them, who only has experience at the level below, that's why i think it's strange. I'm happy he's here as Robins obviously sees him as an upgrade and that's good enough for me.
skyblueeyesrevisited
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When Giles came back on loan MR stated ‘He can play a number of positions, but particularly on the left of the defence or midfield’.
ccfcway
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Surely it’s not just robins?. Who can’t see this as an upgrade on mason ?
Johnnythespider
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I highlighted Robins as his is the only opinion that really matters, if you're asking me i also think it's an upgrade.
Gibbo
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If Robins is true to form, MacCullum will be on the bench. He has been very consistent in team selections and the way he treats players. Everybody knows the score that way. You earn your place. Only Kelly (and previously Doyle) have been treated in any way differently imho. This rule does not apply to goalies.
ccfcway
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Didn’t we have both on loan last season ?. Clearly both parent clubs are happy else they wouldn’t have made the same mistake twice ?
ceetee
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They weren't on loan for the whole season
ccfcway
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So, you think robins has assured wolves that Giles will play certain amount of games at left back this season in championship despite he didn’t play in league one and robins has now assured Norwich mcallum will play a certain amount of games at left back despite Giles starting well ?.
with injuries, a long season and the fact that Giles can play in midfield, I have no doubt both have their part to playthis season for us
ceetee
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I haven't thought or said anywhere that Robbins has given assurances.
I just doubt that a lending club has no influence or opinion on the development of their players
I am sure they will both play some games and will be better than Mason.
Offhegoes
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I’m alright with this, and surely Mason must be being sold or loaned out. For me, Mason was a more than adequate back up for Giles. However surprised Norwich loaned him to us as he won’t be a guaranteed starter surely? Maybe Sam is not settling there and wanted back?
covcity4life
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No he wasn't. Nonsense like your Jacob Murphy opinions.
Our entire back 5 was solid as fuck especially down the stretch. Pivotal to promotion
And every year we hear about loan contract requirements but I don't know if there has ever been one?
This place wank over recruitment team but then questions everything loool
covcity4life
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CanuckSkyBlue
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Maybe he’s not fitting in over at Norwich, I rated McCallum but he needs to win his place back. Wouldn’t be surprised if we buy him back in the future.
Greggs
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It's disgusting that's we've strengthened our squad with one of last season's stand out players. Footballers are only ever allowed to play in one position though, training and coaching is just really shuttle runs and loads of 6 a side matches! Hahaha
sw88
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Ah Stokes of course!!
I'm not ruling it out as I think Friday showed Giles attacking ability. I just can't see us having both him and Sam in the starting line up together the way we seemingly want to play
sw88
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I wouldn't rule it out, as young players can adopt new positions much better than older ones.
As as much as the comparison is pretty incomparable in my opinion, I get your point
On a side note, what a signed by Spurs! Quality player back in the English league can only be a good thing!
Earlsdon_Skyblue1
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Nothing to do with Jacob Murphy you retard.
He was the weakest in the back five last season. Certainly in the latter part. There were numerous calls for him to be dropped.
I'm not saying he isn't a good player, but he kept his place after many bad games. After that performance from Giles, are you really telling me you would pick McCallum in his place?
win9nut
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Bit harsh on Cardiff...
ccfcway
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fab, no concern on your issue then ?
covcity4life
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He didn't havw bad games. We only had idiots on here who didn't see he was playong brilliantly. Considering robins didnt change it up and we won league easily I would say those posters intelligence was proven to be what it is
And once again i keep hearing this but who is saying Giles loses his spot? It increases squad depth and keeps them both on their toes. There is no negative
COVKIDSNEVERQUIT
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Mucca Mad Boys
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Admittedly, we're all trying to second guess MR's thinking. My view is that MR probably wants the flexibility to go 3-4-3 if need be, especially with Jobello to eventually come back in. The 3-4-2-1 we play is very flexible anyway, Allen and O'Hare regularly pop up in wide channels, so it's not a massive change.
Also, it's worth considering that we may at some point want to switch to a back 4 for certain games. This is unlikely, but as MR has said, you never stop looking to improve the team. It's a long season so the more options we have, the more flexible we can be when injuries and suspensions kick in.
Sky_Blue_Dreamer
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I agree with all of that. They're both decent WB with different strengths (Giles attacking, McCallum defending) which gives us the option to alternate depending on the strength of the opposition.
I'm just not overly happy that a position integral to our formation is likely to be covered entirely by loanees.
mrtrench
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All this debate about converting wingback into central midfielders has gone on long enough. Can we compromise by playing a 10 formation, with everyone playing in Central midfield?
Pros:
* can play all our new central midfielders.
* we would dominate the centre of the park in all games
Cons:
* may concede more goals without a defence
* may be more susceptible to attacks down the wing
* may score fewer goals without an attack.
Pros:
* can play all our new central midfielders.
* we would dominate the centre of the park in all games
Cons:
* may concede more goals without a defence
* may be more susceptible to attacks down the wing
* may score fewer goals without an attack.
fatso
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Tbf I've often seen robins in the tree in our garden.