hill83
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Makes me cringe thinking back to that. Fully involved as well.
"She said yes, Marlon." Stopping that kind of shit, for a start...
A terrible increase, but how many of those killings occurred in the household, I agree women should feel safe and be safe, but throwing out highlighted numbers like that doesn't help the situationthere was a simple suggestion put forward regarding crossing the road, (not a solution but just a little thing to help), look at the reaction.
There was a 10 percent increase in the number of women killed by a partner in this country last year, how would you like that statistic presented?
You’ve also got to consider there will be many people who would like to speak up about stuff like this but haven’t been able to until some sort of event and are now able to. Look at mental health and the thread on this forum as an example. You’d be laughed at even 10 years ago, maybe less.
I've just had a look at the list, which is long, of things that fall under harassment.
There are some things there that you agree are obvious
Some things are a bit petty tbh, you'd have to be extremely fragile to let it bother you, like if somebody called you babe?
And going off that list, I think we can safely say many men have been harrassed too, including me and probably you...
Is that two people now inadvertently using the fact that women are more likely to be killed at home as a positive? Ha ha
It's more pointing it out in response to the other extreme, it's not really a positive.
And 99. 9% of men won't do that to women either...Yep, I’ve been harassed/grabbed several times. But I don’t live in fear of it. There’s no potential kidnap and rape/murder on the way home if I tell a woman to fuck off in a pub.
And 99. 9% of men won't do that to women either...
There's loads of women out walking and jogging for exercise though and this Couch to 5K, or whatever it is called. I know loads of people doing it.Appreciate the point they're trying to make is its a worse problem than most people are aware of but I struggle to believe those figures, especially at a time when we're all locked up in our houses.
Hi Hill83, I was one of the people who mentioned the killings at home, not as a positive, but as something we cannot affect. I am one that would cross the road or slow down, I feel women need that courtesy and feeling of safeness, but we can only do our little bit. The times on the streets where one of these truly awful murders happens, usually occurs because the male makes sure there is no-one else around. As many have said including yourself, we can only do our own individual part and I would hope all men on here would step up and do thatIs that two people now inadvertently using the fact that women are more likely to be killed at home as a positive? Ha ha
Very interesting point on the boys school. I know someone that married a bloke who went to all boys boarding school and he had no idea whatsoever how to treat women.A couple of things
1. Many men in senior positions at Boys only schools, already have the fear of interacting with women. It is so archaic now to have single sex schools, but if you dont encounter any women apart from your mum and porn until you are 18 , you can see where the problem is there
2. Women also need to stop using sexual attraction to get on, as that does not help
I interviewed 2 people this week, 1 was gorgeous, but vacant, and used all of the flirty techniques to try to make an impression
The other was just normal, plain but bright as a button
It would be very easy to see how the 1st one would get a job over the 2nd, and that is part of the problem
I know. I struggle to keep up with them as it is, without having to zigzag across the road to pretend I'm not looking.There's loads of women out walking and jogging for exercise though and this Couch to 5K, or whatever it is called. I know loads of people doing it.
Slight side note. I got involved with a bloke and a woman arguing in the street as the bloke was being aggressive towards the woman. (I was drunk btw and it was in magaluf) And the women told be to fuck off and not get involved swung for me.
Hope you chinned the bitch, equality and all that.
Danny Dyer in drag ?I’ll give you some personal experience which may be interesting for some context. 20 odd years. I used to get a late tube back from the city to Putney 2-3 times a week when had been out for a few after work. At that time of night on that line it was very quiet and I frequently shared a carriage with a girl around about my age. When she got on I would always give her a very short friendly smile but then make a conscious effort to concentrate on a book or paper and not make eye contact. One night after a number of weeks she said “ you don’t say much do you?” So I replied “ well what would you have thought if I had randomly sparked up a conversation with you?”
straight away she answered “I’d think you were a facking natter”
which kind of sums it up for me
Id just like to apologise for the conduct of my nation during the war.
A terrible increase, but how many of those killings occurred in the household, I agree women should feel safe and be safe, but throwing out highlighted numbers like that doesn't help the situation
Nah I’m light on my feet and weaved out the way. Kept my food intact as well.
Slight side note. I got involved with a bloke and a woman arguing in the street as the bloke was being aggressive towards the woman. (I was drunk btw and it was in magaluf) And the women told be to fuck off and not get involved swung for me.
Tbf, thinking about my behaviours I do all these things anyway, maybe I'm just a thoughtful human. I do however object to this awful murder case being used as a stick for the media to beat men with. Its pathetic.
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Been in that situation before, and being told by the woman "he's always like this, I can deal with it".
I suppose in hindsight I shouldn’t have piled in unless asked specifically to help? Don’t know.
This isn’t rocket science. I’ve been doing this for years when walking at night in quiet places. Women, elderly, anyone who may be vulnerable. It’s just a way of sending a message of reassurance that I recognise their concern but actually I’m harmless!
That's the thing, it's hard to judge. Obviously meant it with the best intentions but it's easy to see why people don't bother.
People just need to stop being dickheads. I’ve cracked the case.
I suppose in hindsight I shouldn’t have piled in unless asked specifically to help? Don’t know.
Agree, but instinct makes you want to try and help prevent a possible assault. Looking at it objectively if me and my misses were having a verbal argument and someone came along and started sticking their nose in, my misses would probably be the first to tell them to mind their own business.
I consider this along similar lines to the race issue and there’s a link between opinions by the same people on both issues. (Across the board not just on here, but I could to a man make a list of everyone who would kick off about this and they all have) Don’t know the answer though. Just don’t be a dickhead would be a start for everyone to consider.
Thanks for the article Hill.I sent this article to my ex yesterday saying it was appalling.
Four-fifths of young women in the UK have been sexually harassed, survey finds
Exclusive: YouGov poll reveals extent of abuse and lack of faith in authorities’ ability to deal with itwww.theguardian.com
She replied saying she’s not surprised. She has to think about safety issues that wouldn’t even cross my mind when out and about. I was aware what women face but not fully aware. I’ve called out inappropriate behaviour by my mates and people I know in the past and always get “Hills on one again, chill out mate it’s only a laugh.”
Let’s not pretend we don’t know what the bloke mentality is towards women, that’s a multi page thread on here that demonstrates that.
As for being embarrassed to be a man? No. Bit strong. But getting upset that people are calling for some self reflection and a bit of change? Equally as pathetic.
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