Samo
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No problem... I was just wondering if the missing thousands have turned their back on the club like you have?
What's your problem ?
I haven't turned my back on the Club, just the owners. There's plenty who support the Club but don't attend games for one reason or another, but don't see you having a go at them! They don't spend money going to games and some never have!No problem... I was just wondering if the missing thousands have turned their back on the club like you have?
That's why I haven't signed it yet.That is indeed true... and even marking them as Spam doesn't seem to stop it!
I haven't turned my back on the Club, just the owners. There's plenty who support the Club but don't attend games for one reason or another, but don't see you having a go at them! They don't spend money going to games and some never have!
Why? Are you suggesting that CSF deliberately misled our club when they were holding talks about a long term deal? How was a deal for the club to return to Higgs academy agreed if CSF wouldn't deal with the club?I'm afraid that expecting CSF to deal equitably with SISU died when they reneged on the deal with Alan Higgs.
The same thing Higgs rejected an offer of £3.5m for but later sold to Wasps for £2.77m?Yeah, the one Higgs backed out of because at the 11th hour SISU offered £3.5m when the agreed terms were £5m.
You poor fucker!(Violins play) I had a severe heart attack and can hardly breathe but I still travelled 130 miles each way from Caerphilly South Wales and ALL away games but can't travel far anymore. BUT Yes!!! SISU are the biggest fuck up in my mind and NO I refuse to go to games now because of them!!!I AM one of them! I get to fewer and fewer games due to health problems but I don't use the SISU excuse for not following my team.
Why? Are you suggesting that CSF deliberately misled our club when they were holding talks about a long term deal? How was a deal for the club to return to Higgs academy agreed if CSF wouldn't deal with the club?
I can't imagine any fan of the club not being up in arms if they thought a body like CSF, who receive funding from the taxpayer, were actively seeking to damage the club.
The same thing Higgs rejected an offer of £3.5m for but later sold to Wasps for £2.77m?
You poor fucker!(Violins play) I had a severe heart attack and can hardly breathe but I still travelled 130 miles each way from Caerphilly South Wales and ALL away games but can't travel far anymore. BUT Yes!!! SISU are the biggest fuck up in my mind and NO I refuse to go to games now because of them!!!
I can play Guitar and "Kicked the Kit" (Drums) if that's any good OtisWe are soon going to have an orchestra aren't we?
Where's the brass section?
Maybe I got the figures wrong, but it's true that SISU offered a considerably lower sum at the 11th hour.
I'm re-reading the transcripts of the Higgs vs SISU case now. I'll get back to you.Did they? Do you have any evidence?
Did they? Do you have any evidence?
I'm re-reading the transcripts of the Higgs vs SISU case now. I'll get back to you.
Negotiations for the Purchase of the Higgs Charity Share in ACL
"It quickly became clear that SISU had unrealistic expectations for the terms on which they could purchase the Higgs Charity share in ACL; and that the Higgs Charity and they would not agree terms for the sale and purchase of that share, with negotiations between them to that end ceasing by mutual consent before the end of August 2012."
Yes, it's the point. 'unrealistic expectations for the terms', legalese for the difference in what Higgs wanted and what SISU were prepared to offer.That's nothing to do with Orca's point though is it?
That's nothing to do with Orca's point though is it?
That would be great if Higgs had then refused to sell to Wasps for less than the £10m formula price or even the £5m that was agreed.what Higgs wanted
That would be great if Higgs had then refused to sell to Wasps for less than the £10m formula price or even the £5m that was agreed.
Isn't wasps 100 percent?There is the point also that Higgs initially were happy to consider an annuity payment structure for their share although they requested proof of funds. When SISU could not provide this, Higgs then insisted any deal must be cash.
I also note with interest that the deal on the table was structured around a new lease of 125 years. 'Multi-award winning' Les Reid always claims the lease deal garnered by Wasps was never offered to SISU. It was.
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Really? When were CCFC offered 100% ownership of ACL with a 250 year lease for £6.5m?I also note with interest that the deal on the table was structured around a new lease of 125 years. 'Multi-award winning' Les Reid always claims the lease deal garnered by Wasps was never offered to SISU. It was.
That's a shame Samo, you ok.I AM one of them! I get to fewer and fewer games due to health problems but I don't use the SISU excuse for not following my team.
I AM one of them! I get to fewer and fewer games due to health problems but I don't use the SISU excuse for not following my team.
I was specifically referring to the length of the lease.Really? When were CCFC offered 100% ownership of ACL with a 150 year lease for £6.5m?
I was specifically referring to the length of the lease.
CCFC were able to purchase 100% of the stadium, but failed to do so, partly for the reasons outlined by @italiahorse
The amount of money the stadium was sold for and what it was offered to SISU for cannot be sensibly compared. At the time of the SISU deal, the debt with Yorkshire bank hadn't been restructured/refinanced. It is also true that the club owed ACL a substantial amount of money due to the rent strike.
Sorry, yes. My bad. Wasps have 250 years.It is half the length of the lease Wasps have isn't it?
OK, lets just look at that. When were CCFC offered a 250 year lease for 100% of ACL?I was specifically referring to the length of the lease.
Yeah, already realised my mistake and marked it red above.OK, lets just look at that. When were CCFC offered a 250 year lease for 100% of ACL?
OK, lets just look at that. When were CCFC offered a 250 year lease for 100% of ACL?
That's the point. Some have, since the Wasps deal, complained that CCFC were never offered the same deal. They weren't.Swings & roundabouts, the negotiations were 2 different deals,
Sure, but they couldn't because the deal terms were confidential. They had to negotiate their own deal, they failed!That's the point. Some have, since the Wasps deal, complained that CCFC were never offered the same deal. They weren't.
And again that is the whole point! People are unhappy that everything was done in secret and CCFC weren't offered a similar deal.Sure, but they couldn't because the deal terms were confidential. They had to negotiate their own deal, they failed!
And again that is the whole point! People are unhappy that everything was done in secret and CCFC weren't offered a similar deal.
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