Seppala Interview on Sky Sports News (1 Viewer)

[SkyBlueCRJ]

only if wasps change their demands. No way sisu will give them the reassurances they need regarding future penalties.

It's not about SISU giving them assurances though? If SISU agreed to their demands they'd be putting the club and its own employees at risk of complete ruin. Wasps won't change their demands because they've put those conditions in place for a reason - to eradicate all future possibility of paying the price if the EC finds that CCC has given an unfair advantage in providing state aid to Wasps. Demanding indemnity shows how desperate they actually are.

 

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[SkyBlueCRJ]

Of course not, thats what the sticking point will be though as wasps know they have the upper hand in the short term.... Only hope for us is that the complaint is in our favour and bankrupts wasps giving us the ricoh

It doesn't give us the Ricoh though, it goes back to the Council doesn't it? So, realistically even if the EC Complaint goes in SISU's favour that's not necessarily good news for us.

 

[GaryMabbuttsLeftKnee]

Definitely opening up for the 'you fucking snowflake', 'leftard' etc etc abuse, but I do find it quite concerning how we've had our first ever interview with a hugely shrouded and divisive figure in our history, and there are many comments about how 'fit' she is, and if some anonymous forum user would 'do her'.

 

[ccfc1234]

She came across as a very credible person.

Does that mean deep down she is Disingenuous or well meaning I can't tell for 100%. All I know is if SISU had been better with fans PR from the outset, far more fans would not have the blind hatred for them they do.

I have noticed many more are now realising how hard the Council shafted their local club. But I know for some the damage has been done.

 

[clint van damme]

It's not about SISU giving them assurances though? If SISU agreed to their demands they'd be putting the club and its own employees at risk of complete ruin. Wasps won't change their demands because they've put those conditions in place for a reason - to eradicate all future possibility of paying the price if the EC finds that CCC has given an unfair advantage in providing state aid to Wasps. Demanding indemnity shows how desperate they actually are.

I'm not sure how you can say it's not about assurances, that's what wasps want. Whether it's sisu or the club they want to shoulder the burden of any future financial penalties
. sisu, understandably won't do it, they can't withdraw the complaint so the only possible way forward is a change of heart by wasps.
Given that the complaint will go ahead whatever I don't understand why they are going to deny themselves the revenue that CCFC bring.

 

[SkyBlueDom26]

I'm not sure how you can say it's not about assurances, that's what wasps want. Whether it's sisu or the club they want to shoulder the burden of any future financial penalties
. sisu, understandably won't do it, they can't withdraw the complaint so the only possible way forward is a change of heart by wasps.
Given that the complaint will go ahead whatever I don't understand why they are going to deny themselves the revenue that CCFC bring.

Because there wankers and Duggins and his council mates are telling them to keep us out

 

[Nick]

I'm not sure how you can say it's not about assurances, that's what wasps want. Whether it's sisu or the club they want to shoulder the burden of any future financial penalties
. sisu, understandably won't do it, they can't withdraw the complaint so the only possible way forward is a change of heart by wasps.
Given that the complaint will go ahead whatever I don't understand why they are going to deny themselves the revenue that CCFC bring.

The actual EC investigation will only go ahead against the council IF the EU think there is grounds for it.

You only need to look at the shite the councillors are coming out with "They were told to to drop the legals and there is a deal on the table". Then they make out they have no involvement.

 

[theferret]

Drowning people will grab anything to try and survive,only a 1000 STs sold, we are just 6 weeks away from St Andrews which will cost the business shed loads. I still think we will kick -off at the Ricoh.

I know your are trying to downplay ST sales, which is fair enough. I think they will be better than you expect, but either way clearly way down on what they have would have been. In no way though do I think that poor ST sales would force the club back to the Ricoh. That will only happen if Wasps shift their position. To me it seems SISU are willing to see out next season at SA if Wasps don't buckle, regardless of the financial hit. Perhaps they are banking on the Wilson sell-on fee. We get £3 million from that and that is the equivalent of 15,000 season tickets if you take the average price.

 

[Danceswithhorses]

I have been a huge critic of JS and one of those criticisms has been shying away from the media; a club owner should really have some kind of public profile in my view. So give her credit where it is due, I didn't think we'd see the day when she fronted up for the cameras and spoke like this. Fair play to her.

Fair enough...but why speak now ?
She's been happy enough to ignore our pain and grievances for almost 12 years.
She has in the past said the only thing that's important to her are her investors...so why all of a sudden does she feel she has to pretend that she cares about us, the fans of Coventry City ?

 

[Nick]

I know your are trying to downplay ST sales, which is fair enough. I think they will be better than you expect, but either way clearly way down on what they have would have been. In no way though do I think that poor ST sales would force the club back to the Ricoh. That will only happen if Wasps shift their position. To me it seems SISU are willing to see out next season at SA if Wasps don't buckle, regardless of the financial hit. Perhaps they are banking on the Wilson sell-on fee. We get £3 million from that and that is the equivalent of 15,000 season tickets if you take the average price.

There is no point explaining it to him.

 

[SkyBlueCRJ]

I'm not sure how you can say it's not about assurances, that's what wasps want. Whether it's sisu or the club they want to shoulder the burden of any future financial penalties
. sisu, understandably won't do it, they can't withdraw the complaint so the only possible way forward is a change of heart by wasps.
Given that the complaint will go ahead whatever I don't understand why they are going to deny themselves the revenue that CCFC bring.

I've heard it from the horses mouth. A deal was agreed and on the table, then Wasps come back and essentially demand that the club sign a clause that essentially stated that itself and its own employees should be held accountable for any penalties from the complaint's findings. Do you think that's fair? Or acting out of good faith? To me that's Wasps making it personal.

Because they're desperate to be indemnified. Don't you think it's strange that Wasps are demanding the club indemnify them and not the Council? Equally, why are they going to such lengths to demand indemnity. If they're so confident of a positive outcome from the complaint what have they got to hide?

 

[tisza]

Seppala absolutely right not to give Wasps what they wanted.

If CCC in the wrong then they should be liable for any damages to Wasps (who probably should be also looking at who carried out their due diligence). If Wasps have done anything wrong then they should pay the price (like they may have to with their financial reporting problems)
By the same token SISU should be liable for legal costs of those they are suing if they don't win in the end.

 

[tisza]

The actual EC investigation will only go ahead against the council IF the EU think there is grounds for it.

You only need to look at the shite the councillors are coming out with "They were told to to drop the legals and there is a deal on the table". Then they make out they have no involvement.

It was fine for these councillors to make these statements when they thought they were in a position of strength to bully the club. Not so easy to bully the EU offices. Now it just makes it seem they were trying to cover things up.

 

[Nick]

I've heard it from the horses mouth. A deal was agreed and on the table, then Wasps come back and essentially demand that the club sign a clause that essentially stated that itself and its own employees should be held accountable for any penalties from the complaint's findings. Do you think that's fair? Or acting out of good faith? To me that's Wasps making it personal.

Because they're desperate to be indemnified. Don't you think it's strange that Wasps are demanding the club indemnify them and not the Council? Equally, why are they going to such lengths to demand indemnity. If they're so confident of a positive outcome from the complaint what have they got to hide?

Or it's just a reason to get rid of the club while still trying to blame SISU for it.

Put impossible conditions on it, shout about legals a lot.

 

[SBAndy]

Can you tell me the ISIN and I'll take a look?

Search WAS1 on google.

Edit: now found ISIN - XS1221940510.

 

[clint van damme]

The actual EC investigation will only go ahead against the council IF the EU think there is grounds for it.

You only need to look at the shite the councillors are coming out with "They were told to to drop the legals and there is a deal on the table". Then they make out they have no involvement.

Which is why I can't understand wasps denying themselves income.
It may not go ahead, if it does it can't be stopped. It may take years anyway.
How much is no CCFC at the Ricoh costing them I wonder?

 

[Cigarfingers]

The council have tried to cover up and strong arm wasps into pressuring us all along.
Put on top of that the threat they made to Cov rugby that if they got in bed with ccfc they wouldn't get planning to build their new ground it just stinks of guilt to me!

And im no Sisu fan/apologist but i totally agree with them not signing the agreement to underwrite anything. Can you imagine if they are found to have been right all along and then we had to stump up £27 million. The club would be wound up and people would be kicking off saying Sisu killed the club by signing that agreement! It's painful atm but i dont see what other choice they had.

 

[djr8369]

Which is why I can't understand wasps denying themselves income.
It may not go ahead, if it does it can't be stopped. It may take years anyway.
How much is no CCFC at the Ricoh costing them I wonder?

So it’s more important for wasps that they’re protected from the EC investigation. Fair enough. What’s odd is how desperate the council are for it not to go ahead.


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[SkyBlueCRJ]

Or it's just a reason to get rid of the club while still trying to blame SISU for it.

Put impossible conditions on it, shout about legals a lot.

I don't think it's to get rid of the club at all, as the club have nothing to do with it. Removing SISU out of the equation how does CCFC not existing help Wasps? Even if your scenario was correct and Wasps got their wish of CCFC ceasing to exist, I'd hedge my bets SISU wouldn't suddenly cut ties and not be heard from again. If I can see that, so can Wasps. Wasps simply see the club as a pressure spot for SISU.

As per, the club once again is being used as collateral to push agendas and the agendas coming from the Wasps camp appear desperate to say the least. From what I've heard about the negotiations their habit of moving the goalposts was extremely reactionary - which again, to me, screams of desperation.

 

[Nick]

I don't think it's to get rid of the club at all, as the club have nothing to do with it. Removing SISU out of the equation how does CCFC not existing help Wasps? Even if your scenario was correct and Wasps got their wish of CCFC ceasing to exist, I'd hedge my bets SISU wouldn't suddenly cut ties and not be heard from again. If I can see that, so can Wasps. Wasps simply see the club as a pressure spot for SISU.

As per, the club once again is being used as collateral to push agendas and the agendas coming from the Wasps camp appear desperate to say the least. From what I've heard about the negotiations their habit of moving the goalposts was extremely reactionary - which again, to me, screams of desperation.

Because they think if the club is pushed out it forces SISU to hand it over to Hoffman so them / CCC / Hoffman can live happily ever after.

Why is kicking the club out pressuring SISU? It's the same mistake the council and ACL made, punch the club thinking it bothers SISU.

 

[PurpleBin]

Thing is, who's to say it was someone who is a Cov fan? Could have just been a random burglary.

I seperated the burglary and the general abuse she and her family recieve.

 

[Nick]

Interesting, why have people like Simon G refused to dig more into Hoffman being backed by a Rich Rugby club owner?

 

[Liquid Gold]

Biggest 'anybody with a brain could see this coming' moment of the decade.

 

[wal3590]

Interesting, why have people like Simon G refused to dig more into Hoffman being backed by a Rich Rugby club owner?

Jeeeez, not held back there has she, so all we need now is another bidder!

 

[RoboCCFC90]

Comments of "Strangle the bitch" and making light of people breaking into her house, that are popping up on twitter are pretty horrendous.

I personally have heard some City fans threaten violence and intimidation at houses of certain individuals, in order to make SISU sell.

This was a long time ago, but I wouldn’t be surprised if there was truth in this - people do go too far, it’s human nature

 

[SkyBlueCRJ]

Because they think if the club is pushed out it forces SISU to hand it over to Hoffman so them / CCC / Hoffman can live happily ever after.

Why is kicking the club out pressuring SISU? It's the same mistake the council and ACL made, punch the club thinking it bothers SISU.

That doesn't make sense though. Where's the evidence to suggest they think that? Plus what would SISU be handing over to Hoffman if the club is finished and why would Wasps care who a phenix club is governed by? Do you honestly think Hoffman would be interested in a club that's at the very bottom of the football pyramid? You seem to be speculating rather than keeping to facts.

Because they're trying to force SISU's hand to indemnify them from any future penalties that come from an EC investigation. This is what reeks of desperation to me. Ironically it's the Council they should be demanding indemnity from, not the club, nor SISU. If I had to guess Wasps have asked the question and the Council have said no. Hence why in my opinion they're clearly panicked and are willing to go to such lengths to pressure SISU (by using the club as collateral) to be completely indemnified from the state aid investigation.

 

[Nick]

I personally have heard some City fans threaten violence and intimidation at houses of certain individuals, in order to make SISU sell.

This was a long time ago, but I wouldn’t be surprised if there was truth in this - people do go too far, it’s human nature

Which is the same as when the PR company was talking to a fans group about "doorstepping" her?

No idea if it happened or if there was a burglary though.

 

[Liquid Gold]

That doesn't make sense though. Where's the evidence to suggest they think that? Plus what would SISU be handing over to Hoffman if the club is finished and why would Wasps care who a phenix club is governed by? Do you honestly think Hoffman would be interested in a club that's at the very bottom of the football pyramid? You seem to be speculating rather than keeping to facts.

Because they're trying to force SISU's hand to indemnify them from any future penalties that come from an EC investigation. This is what reeks of desperation to me. Ironically it's the Council they should be demanding indemnity from, not the club, nor SISU. If I had to guess Wasps have asked the question and the Council have said no. Hence why in my opinion they're clearly panicked and are willing to go to such lengths to pressure SISU (by using the club as collateral) to be completely indemnified from the state aid investigation.

Did you write this before looking at that tweet?

 

[Nick]

That doesn't make sense though. Where's the evidence to suggest they think that? Plus what would SISU be handing over to Hoffman if the club is finished and why would Wasps care who a phenix club is governed by? Do you honestly think Hoffman would be interested in a club that's at the very bottom of the football pyramid? You seem to be speculating rather than keeping to facts.

Because they're trying to force SISU's hand to indemnify them from any future penalties that come from an EC investigation. This is what reeks of desperation to me. Ironically it's the Council they should be demanding indemnity from, not the club, nor SISU. If I had to guess Wasps have asked the question and the Council have said no. Hence why in my opinion they're clearly panicked and are willing to go to such lengths to pressure SISU (by using the club as collateral) to be completely indemnified from the state aid investigation.

So if Hoffman isn't interested why were the Trust still pushing that he is still interested? It isn't speculation.

Wasps didn't count on the club having so many other options, the same as they didn't count on the EFL allowing a move. It backfired. You need to also pay attention to what the strange accounts online say as they sometimes give things away.

For example Italia being told a while ago by somebody that we need to let the club die / fall and then Wasps will save us again. The same as the strange council accounts banking that the accounts couldn't be filed without a home ground.

 

[clint van damme]

So it’s more important for wasps that they’re protected from the EC investigation. Fair enough. What’s odd is how desperate the council are for it not to go ahead.


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I don't see any way they can be protected from it though, unless, if they are in cahoots with Hoffman do they think he will give them the reassurances they want if he takes control of the club? I would say that makes him an unsuitable owner if so.

 

[RoboCCFC90]

Which is the same as when the PR company was talking to a fans group about "doorstepping" her?

No idea if it happened or if there was a burglary though.

Whether these events have taken place is something totally different, but I have heard it talked about and there is enough out there to suggest it could've happened.

 

[tisza]

Interesting, why have people like Simon G refused to dig more into Hoffman being backed by a Rich Rugby club owner?

Strong claim by Seppala implying Wasps are trying to still pressure CCFC in order to buy it themselves or through a 3rd party. without a whistleblower not easy for journos to get info if parties involved are going to hide behind commercial confidentiality.

 

[SkyBlueDom26]

“Wasps want to buy Cov City. As a rugby club they have topped out, but we have the potential of being a Premier League club, with Prem revenues.”

Haha go on Joy lad, bridges are being burned right there but its true though, hopefully wasps get relegated next season

 

[HuckerbyDublinWhelan]

I wouldn’t necessarily say no to a wasps franchise buyout as long as none of the football funds are diverted to support the rugby team.

 

[tisza]

“Wasps want to buy Cov City. As a rugby club they have topped out, but we have the potential of being a Premier League club, with Prem revenues.”

Haha go on Joy lad, bridges are being burned right there but its true though, hopefully wasps get relegated next season

Bit of a thin claim from Joy. Obvious neither SISU or wasps have the resources to push for a Prem place or even survive in current Championship financial climate