Astute
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So are you saying that she radicalized people in the UK when she was 15 and did nothing wrong when in Syria?
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So are you saying that she radicalized people in the UK when she was 15 and did nothing wrong when in Syria?The crime she is alleged to have committed is technically and likely to have been in this country in any case. It isn't illegal to go to Syria.
Her alleged crime is more to do with the Preparation of Terrorism rather than it in itself. Hence she should be tried here. There is also genuine public interest in understanding who and what radicalised her
It's very contradictory isn't it. Too young to vote, but at 15 they know exactly what they are doing.
Yes, true. Do we know how long the radicalisation process took with her, to turn her?
Okay. I didn't know that. Big factor if so I would have thought.Wasn't her dad involved in Extremist marches etc?
Okay. I didn't know that. Big factor if so I would have thought.
That was Amira Abase’s dad.Wasn't her dad involved in Extremist marches etc?
How come every time I see those photos I think of the Sound of Music?
How come every time I see those photos I think of the Sound of Music?
She knew was she was doing, i knew what i was doing at 15 and so does every 15 year old... your making an invalid point
I'm literally lost for words at this news.
How can someone knowingly leave the UK to join a notorious terrorist group after having their UK citizenship stripped have the chance to fight for it again?
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as stated in this thread many times, no country can leave a citizen stateless.
The argument is whether she holds dual nationality and if she does would she be mistreated in the other country (Bangladesh), if she was returned there.
If she is allowed to keep her citizenship she should then be tried in a UK court.
The laws are made to protect us all and sometimes that means they protect wrong uns' but they are there for a reason.
But she's not stateless, she belongs to the Islamic state, that was her choice!as stated in this thread many times, no country can leave a citizen stateless.
The argument is whether she holds dual nationality and if she does would she be mistreated in the other country (Bangladesh), if she was returned there.
If she is allowed to keep her citizenship she should then be tried in a UK court.
The laws are made to protect us all and sometimes that means they protect wrong uns' but they are there for a reason.
But she's not stateless, she belongs to the Islamic state, that was her choice!
You cant turn your back on your family, your country and all its laws and rules, then just flounce back in when it all goes wrong.... well, subsequently you can, but it doesn't make it right.
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But she's not stateless, she belongs to the Islamic state, that was her choice!
You cant turn your back on your family, your country and all its laws and rules, then just flounce back in when it all goes wrong.... well, subsequently you can, but it doesn't make it right.
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Fucking joke, the system is a fucking joke there is no way she should be allowed anywhere near this country after what she did she knew exactly what she was doing at 15
Fucking hell what a shamblesApparently her own lawyer has not been able to guarantee that she won't come back and try to groom others.
She should be stateless tho after what she did, they all shouldyour second statement is correct but it has no bearing on your first.
There's a good reason why it's illegal to leave citizens stateless.
A functioning democracy can't administer law on an adhoc basis.
She should be stateless tho after what she did, they all should
She should be stateless tho after what she did, they all should
Thats it, we'll bring her back to serve prison time, where she will spend the next 10 years in prison grooming other people to hate the UK and possibly kill British citizens one day! What a fucking joke of a system.you may recognise the islamic state as legitimate but I don't think the international community does!
I believe the Islamic state also dishes out justice ad hoc, we don't want to be following them.
There's a process, and it should be followed, it may have the side affect of helping her unfortunately though if the courts decide we cannot take away her citizenship then I can't see any reason she cannot be tried on some fairly serious charges.
Thats it, we'll bring her back to serve prison time, where she will spend the next 10 years in prison grooming other people to hate the UK and possibly kill British citizens one day! What a fucking joke of a system.
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If she remained a member of IS as an adult and (as seems to be the case) has not renounced or shown remorse at her actions she'll be tried as an adult.
Just cos you join a gang as a kid doesn't mean you should get tried as a kid if you're still doing shitty things in that gang in your twenties.
Surely no lawyer defending any client in any legal case, is ever in a position to guarantee their client's future behaviour are they.Apparently her own lawyer has not been able to guarantee that she won't come back and try to groom others.
As I said 5 minutes ago what crime did she commit in the UK?
Leave her where she is to rot.
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