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Still costing us a fortune as well just like this woman will if she is allowed to come here.
"She is a victim at 15 although responsible criminally for her actions of course as the age of criminality is 12 in the U.K. apart from when we decide its 10 for the Bulger pair"
That's a hell of a leap. Whatever the arguments for and against this one, surely nobody has any sympathy for that pair of c*nts! 10 or not the things they did was beyond taking a kid and killing him. Beyond evil and 100% knew exactly what they were doing.
What’s your expertise in criminal law and childhood awareness?"She is a victim at 15 although responsible criminally for her actions of course as the age of criminality is 12 in the U.K. apart from when we decide its 10 for the Bulger pair"
That's a hell of a leap. Whatever the arguments for and against this one, surely nobody has any sympathy for that pair of c*nts! 10 or not the things they did was beyond taking a kid and killing him. Beyond evil and 100% knew exactly what they were doing.
Absolutely zero expertise, but I think I've lived enough years and seen enough to know right from wrong. I did at 10 and I'm sure most here do. If you want need it highlighting, then probably best that you have a word with Jamie's parents and see what they've been through. I imagine they know a lot more about the case than you do and the interviews with them show there is only one side deserving of anything sympathy and certainly not Venables or Thompson.What’s your expertise in criminal law and childhood awareness?
In many countries they wouldn’t have been improsoned
Corbyn has now said she should be allowed back in. I didn’t think it was possible for me to dislike like him more. I was wrong.
Jeremy Corbyn says Shamima Begum 'should be allowed back to Britain' for 'support she needs' — The Telegraph
It’s like he doesn’t want to be elected, he is so out of touch with the British people
It’s like he doesn’t want to be elected, he is so out of touch with the British people
so you like your politicians to say things that endear them to the masses?
I'd prefer politicians to be honest even if it means I don't agree with them.
I would like him to side with what is right and her return isn’t right, I would like Labour to be elected but with him as leader we have no chance
If you're not revoking citizenship, isn't it better to manage her return, so you know where she is, then risk her slipping in unnoticed?To be honest I do not agree with the principal of allowing citizenship to be revoked. What I am against is assisting the individual to return
Bloody hell the point was about age of criminality. There’s no saying what they did was ok and they need sympathy. You only need a rudimentary understanding of the human brain to understand that we don’t make decisions as 10 year olds knowing what we do as 20 year olds. One main way brains don’t mature is in understanding that there are eternal consequences to actions you take. You can read about it. Not everything is black and white it’s nuanced. The pain and suffering are real but around the world I assure you venables and Thompson would have been treated as much the victim as James Bulger. There are cases in Norway and Finland you can read about. 15 year olds are supposed to get protection from content and adults that would abuse their position of trust to take advantage of them. That’s the link here. As a 15 year old the girl has been manipulated, why at 19 is she not being treated as a victim? I really don’t understandAbsolutely zero expertise, but I think I've lived enough years and seen enough to know right from wrong. I did at 10 and I'm sure most here do. If you want need it highlighting, then probably best that you have a word with Jamie's parents and see what they've been through. I imagine they know a lot more about the case than you do and the interviews with them show there is only one side deserving of anything sympathy and certainly not Venables or Thompson.
Not surprisingly a couple of quotes have been cherrypicked to suit the article they wanted to write.It’s like he doesn’t want to be elected, he is so out of touch with the British people
BBC News - How Norway dealt with its 'Bulger' caseBloody hell the point was about age of criminality. There’s no saying what they did was ok and they need sympathy. You only need a rudimentary understanding of the human brain to understand that we don’t make decisions as 10 year olds knowing what we do as 20 year olds. One main way brains don’t mature is in understanding that there are eternal consequences to actions you take. You can read about it. Not everything is black and white it’s nuanced. The pain and suffering are real but around the world I assure you venables and Thompson would have been treated as much the victim as James Bulger. There are cases in Norway and Finland you can read about. 15 year olds are supposed to get protection from content and adults that would abuse their position of trust to take advantage of them. That’s the link here. As a 15 year old the girl has been manipulated, why at 19 is she not being treated as a victim? I really don’t understand
I'll assume you do know that just because you type it doesn't make your opinion a fact? Those little fuckers among many things shoved batteries up his bum and then eventually, put him on a train line hoping it would run over him and remove any evidence of the things they had done to him. 10,20 or 50 they needed locking up and should have been for a hell of a lot longer than it was!Bloody hell the point was about age of criminality. There’s no saying what they did was ok and they need sympathy. You only need a rudimentary understanding of the human brain to understand that we don’t make decisions as 10 year olds knowing what we do as 20 year olds. One main way brains don’t mature is in understanding that there are eternal consequences to actions you take. You can read about it. Not everything is black and white it’s nuanced. The pain and suffering are real but around the world I assure you venables and Thompson would have been treated as much the victim as James Bulger. There are cases in Norway and Finland you can read about. 15 year olds are supposed to get protection from content and adults that would abuse their position of trust to take advantage of them. That’s the link here. As a 15 year old the girl has been manipulated, why at 19 is she not being treated as a victim? I really don’t understand
how many wars in the world are started by relgion. I’d say 80%
Yep course I do - sorryI'll assume you do know that just because you type it doesn't make your opinion a fact? Those little fuckers among many things shoved batteries up his bum and then eventually, put him on a train line hoping it would run over him and remove any evidence of the things they had done to him. 10,20 or 50 they needed locking up and should have been for a hell of a lot longer than it was!
I would prefer to have a Labour leader that doesn't go against what the voters want when there is no reason to speak on a subject.so you like your politicians to say things that endear them to the masses?
I'd prefer politicians to be honest even if it means I don't agree with them.
I read an article about her wanting to go to Holland. They said no chance as they don't let anyone back with any links to terrorism. They said they have blocked the return of over 100 people so far.Not surprisingly a couple of quotes have been cherrypicked to suit the article they wanted to write.
While I wouldn't allow her back in the country at all and therefore don't agree with Corbyn's stance he has not come out in support of her. He has said we should follow international law, question her and punish and / or support her accordingly. Which is consistent with his objections at the time the home office was given the powers to act in the way they currently are.
Not sure why I, or anyone else for that matter, would be instructing Corbyn to 'sort out' Dutch laws. Especially as I have explicitly stated I don't agree with him.I read an article about her wanting to go to Holland. They said no chance as they don't let anyone back with any links to terrorism. They said they have blocked the return of over 100 people so far.
Better let Corbyn know so he can sort it out.
Not with this bunch in chargeI would prefer to have a Labour leader that doesn't go against what the voters want when there is no reason to speak on a subject.
Doesn't anyone want Labour back in power?
Not with this bunch in charge
If you're not revoking citizenship, isn't it better to manage her return, so you know where she is, then risk her slipping in unnoticed?
I would prefer to have a Labour leader that doesn't go against what the voters want when there is no reason to speak on a subject.
Doesn't anyone want Labour back in power?
Not so sure I'd be entirely secure in that!Well I’d assume that our intelligence service is sufficient to see if that is actually going to happen.
The better ones are going and leaving Abbott behind
That independent group now has more MP's than the DUP - that £1bn looks like money well spent! For the party with the reputation for sensible handling of the economy they sure can waste funds as well as anyone.
And as those in that independent group are leaving their parties for going too far left/right, I expect the Lib Dems are on a charm offensive right now. Odds on a resurgence in the next election (especially if the rumours of Blair heading this independent group are correct)?
so you like your politicians to say things that endear them to the masses?
I'd prefer politicians to be honest even if it means I don't agree with them.
That’s all we need Blair back in politics and his disgusting wife will no doubt follow
No, she'll be looking at ways they can make money from the law businesses etc. I find the pair of them incredibly shady and false. To think his son was being considered to being parachuted in to replace Robinson...
Understanding the Teen Brain - Health Encyclopedia - University of Rochester Medical Center
We know all this so why can’t we put it into practice ?
Understanding the Teen Brain - Health Encyclopedia - University of Rochester Medical Center
We know all this so why can’t we put it into practice ?
Mate of mine was saying he reckons in a generation or two we’ll all just have implants to change how we think about certain things. I think we need to embrace the imperfection and diversityto go off topic a little bit Pete, if you're interested in this type of stuff there's a fella called Robert Sapolsky who is an American professor and an expert in all things behavioural and brain related.
His Stanford university lectures are all on Youtube, they are fascinating if you're in to that sort of thing. I've listened to loads of them.
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