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  • Start date Oct 5, 2024
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Ring Of Steel

Ring Of Steel

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  • Oct 6, 2024
  • #36
shmmeee said:
Let’s be blunt. Bar MvE every penny of the Vik and Gus money has been wasted hasn’t it?
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Oh look, more exaggeration.
 
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shmmeee

shmmeee

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  • Oct 6, 2024
  • #37
Brighton Sky Blue said:
Sakamoto until his bad luck with getting hacked was also not a waste.
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Forogt about him. Yeah a throwback signing for around a mil him.

Rudoni I like but we massively overpaid.
 
shmmeee

shmmeee

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  • Oct 6, 2024
  • #38
Ring Of Steel said:
Oh look, more exaggeration.
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It’s not exaggeration. Other than Saka and MvE who has been worth their fee?
 
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Brighton Sky Blue

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  • Oct 6, 2024
  • #39
shmmeee said:
Forogt about him. Yeah a throwback signing for around a mil him.

Rudoni I like but we massively overpaid.
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Anyone’s guess what the real Rudoni fee was to be fair
 
shmmeee

shmmeee

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  • Oct 6, 2024
  • #40
Brighton Sky Blue said:
Anyone’s guess what the real Rudoni fee was to be fair
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Say that about any transfer but transfer market have him EMC and Kitching as some of the most expensive L1 players of all time.
 
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Cov4life

Cov4life

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  • Oct 6, 2024
  • #41
shmmeee said:
Let’s be blunt. Bar MvE every penny of the Vik and Gus money has been wasted hasn’t it?
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Oh absolutely, the moneys been squandered.

Anyone that knows abit has realised this now.
 
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Brighton Sky Blue

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  • Oct 6, 2024
  • #42
shmmeee said:
Say that about any transfer but transfer market have him EMC and Kitching as some of the most expensive L1 players of all time.
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Can’t really, other fees are out in the open eg what we paid for Wright. Who for the money we’ve paid is far too inconsistent
 
samccov1987

samccov1987

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  • Oct 6, 2024
  • #43
Saddlebrains said:
Heard Sheaf lost his shit yesterday post game

The pressure on him to be the saviour has also been put on him internally not just us fans and he is getting hugely frustrated with the shite around him

As mentioned above he's having to talk wingers etc through the basics of the game, (whoch is clearly affecting his own game) as is Bidwell and both are getting hugely fucked off now. Wouldn't be surprised to see him go in Jan tbh

Also, feel for Eccles who is genuinely taking these performances to heart. As a cov kid and fan he feels he needs to be the man to change things but alongside Sheaf and Bidwell it's not being listened too
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You can see the decent pros on the pitch, Sheaf,Eccles,Bidwell and Rudoni even when not on the top of their game show some desire.

Wright,Simms e.t.c just look disinterested. the sort of players that drive you mad because they have the ability.
 

Cov4life

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  • Oct 6, 2024
  • #44
Brighton Sky Blue said:
Sakamoto until his bad luck with getting hacked was also not a waste.
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I’d argue that Sakamoto was a bad buy aswell, only suitable for certain games.
 
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shmmeee

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  • Oct 6, 2024
  • #45
Brighton Sky Blue said:
Can’t really, other fees are out in the open eg what we paid for Wright. Who for the money we’ve paid is far too inconsistent
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literally just come from a thread with someone saying the Wright fee is bollocks.
 
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stevefloyd

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  • Oct 6, 2024
  • #46
Maybe we should try Andrews later in games not as a starter get him involved youthful exuberance and all, it will give the fans something else to slag the team off at the very least
 
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SkyBlue_Bear83

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  • Oct 6, 2024
  • #47
shmmeee said:
Let’s be blunt. Bar MvE every penny of the Vik and Gus money has been wasted hasn’t it?
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Pretty much
 
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Bigelvesy

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  • Oct 6, 2024
  • #48
stgeorge1966 said:
What the hell was going on with him today waving his arms about like a petulant child when any of his misplaced places went out of play... Get a grip Sheaf
2nd goal was again you faffing about in midfield and losing the ball
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PLEASE GOD watch the replay and tell me again that this is as a result of Sheaf “faffing” about in midfield.
Van Ewijk blindly plays a pass into an area of the pitch Sheaf isnt in. He took the easy option and killed Sheaf.
Sheaf lunges at the ball to try to win the challenge, but already on a yellow couldnt go in full blooded.

Absolutely unbelievable you look at that and call that.
 
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2024/25 League 1 Champs?

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  • Oct 6, 2024
  • #49
Cov4life said:
I’d argue that Sakamoto was a bad buy aswell, only suitable for certain games.
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…remember Tats was originally bought as a right back
 

Matt smith

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  • Oct 6, 2024
  • #50
shmmeee said:
It’s not exaggeration. Other than Saka and MvE who has been worth their fee?
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Feel Bobby Thomas is a 2 million Centre half, feel he’ll forge a very decent career.

We overpaid for pretty much everyone else bar Sakamoto, Thomas and MVE, frustrating

Recruitment has been v poor since badlan left let’s be honest. We made some poor signings under his recruitment like kastaneer and jobello but we got a hell of a lot more right than wrong, now it’s the other way round
 

Great_Expectations

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  • Oct 6, 2024
  • #51
The lack of effort by some is pretty evident. I doubt it’s intentional but a confidence thing for the most part.

Next game MR has to play players who have some confidence and/or resilience and/or commitment about them.

Who ticks that box that isn’t currently playing I don’t really know! Bassette has a point to prove, probably Binks too. Ability wise he’s poor, bur even Taveres would put the effort in.

Don’t know the answer but the lack of effort is frustrating and sounds like isn’t helping team camaraderie either.
 
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wingy

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  • Oct 6, 2024
  • #52
shmmeee said:
Forogt about him. Yeah a throwback signing for around a mil him.

Rudoni I like but we massively overpaid.
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Creative accounting I think!
 

covcity4life

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  • Oct 6, 2024
  • #53
shmmeee said:
Let’s be blunt. Bar MvE every penny of the Vik and Gus money has been wasted hasn’t it?
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Let's be blunt. No way of knowing that yet.

you need to stop being so depressive
 
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AFCCOVENTRY

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  • Oct 6, 2024
  • #54
Saddlebrains said:
Heard Sheaf lost his shit yesterday post game

The pressure on him to be the saviour has also been put on him internally not just us fans and he is getting hugely frustrated with the shite around him

As mentioned above he's having to talk wingers etc through the basics of the game, (whoch is clearly affecting his own game) as is Bidwell and both are getting hugely fucked off now. Wouldn't be surprised to see him go in Jan tbh

Also, feel for Eccles who is genuinely taking these performances to heart. As a cov kid and fan he feels he needs to be the man to change things but alongside Sheaf and Bidwell it's not being listened too
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The problem is if Sheaf wants to leave in Jan then he better start performing because he’s made no difference to the midfield.
 
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rob9872

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  • Oct 6, 2024
  • #55
I'd wait for the accounts. A lot of our fees are reported as X but often we've paid lower with add ons rising to. If we're not successful they won't have cost as much, if we are then they'll have been worth yhe extra.
 
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False9

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  • Oct 6, 2024
  • #56
shmmeee said:
It’s not exaggeration. Other than Saka and MvE who has been worth their fee?
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You said every penny has been wasted so yes it was exaggeration.
 
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Mucca Mad Boys

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  • Oct 6, 2024
  • #57
rob9872 said:
Taking a yellow is different to taking a second one. You can't be 100% in the middle of the park they would score and if they had, you'd be saying it was reckless and cost us the Preston game. They should've been subbed.
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If the choice was between a 2nd booking and conceding a stoppage time goal to lose the game… it’s an absolute non-starter, you take the red card.
 

rob9872

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  • Oct 6, 2024
  • #58
Mucca Mad Boys said:
If the choice was between a 2nd booking and conceding a stoppage time goal to lose the game… it’s an absolute non-starter, you take the red card.
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If he was clean through, we're talking about in the middle of the park
 

shmmeee

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  • Oct 6, 2024
  • #59
covcity4life said:
Let's be blunt. No way of knowing that yet.

you need to stop being so depressive
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Seen them for over a season now and wouldn’t sign any of them apart from MvE and Saka if given the chance again.
 
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Matt smith

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  • Oct 6, 2024
  • #60
shmmeee said:
Seen them for over a season now and wouldn’t sign any of them apart from MvE and Saka if given the chance again.
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I’d have signed Wright as well, apart from that completely agree.

Thomas too maybe actually
 

covcity4life

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  • Oct 6, 2024
  • #61
shmmeee said:
Seen them for over a season now and wouldn’t sign any of them apart from MvE and Saka if given the chance again.
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Wright??

I still think Thomas will have a good career as a CB too

Dovin looked good to me also
 
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shmmeee

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  • Oct 6, 2024
  • #62
covcity4life said:
Wright??

I still think Thomas will have a good career as a CB too

Dovin looked good to me also
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Not for £7.7m with his consistency. When he’s good he’s very good but when he’s bad he’s rubbish.
 
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quinn1971

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  • Oct 6, 2024
  • #63
the 2 signings that have looked promising ( bassette and dovin) can’t even get a minute game time, what’s going on with bassette ?
 

San Francisco

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  • Oct 6, 2024
  • #64
Matt smith said:
Recruitment has been v poor since badlan left let’s be honest. We made some poor signings under his recruitment like kastaneer and jobello but we got a hell of a lot more right than wrong, now it’s the other way round
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I still think him going was one of our biggest losses in the last few years. The man who scouted two lads who'd both go on to become the best players we've had since we got relegated from the PL and we let him leave...
 
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skybluecam

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  • Oct 6, 2024
  • #65
shmmeee said:
Let’s be blunt. Bar MvE every penny of the Vik and Gus money has been wasted hasn’t it?
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Simms and Wright scored almost 20 goals each last season. That’s not a waste.
 
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Robinshio

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  • Oct 7, 2024
  • #66
ok so if we could sell the following for the fees mentioned in january and rebuild with hopefully the Gyokeres money would you take it

Haji £5m
Simms £4m
MVE £8m
Kitching £1m
EMC £2m
Gyokeres money £6m

so in effect £26m to rebuild effectively needing
3 full backs
1 centre back
2 midfielders
2 forwards for that money
 

SeaSeeEffCee

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  • Oct 7, 2024
  • #67
Robinshio said:
ok so if we could sell the following for the fees mentioned in january and rebuild with hopefully the Gyokeres money would you take it

Haji £5m
Simms £4m
MVE £8m
Kitching £1m
EMC £2m
Gyokeres money £6m

so in effect £26m to rebuild effectively needing
3 full backs
1 centre back
2 midfielders
2 forwards for that money
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We’d do well to get that much for some of those.
 

skybluecam

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  • Oct 7, 2024
  • #68
Robinshio said:
ok so if we could sell the following for the fees mentioned in january and rebuild with hopefully the Gyokeres money would you take it

Haji £5m
Simms £4m
MVE £8m
Kitching £1m
EMC £2m
Gyokeres money £6m

so in effect £26m to rebuild effectively needing
3 full backs
1 centre back
2 midfielders
2 forwards for that money
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Yeah mate let’s sell the forwards that scored almost 40 goals last season for £9m combined, genius you are.
 
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wingy

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  • Oct 7, 2024
  • #69
Robinshio said:
ok so if we could sell the following for the fees mentioned in january and rebuild with hopefully the Gyokeres money would you take it

Haji £5m
Simms £4m
MVE £8m
Kitching £1m
EMC £2m
Gyokeres money £6m

so in effect £26m to rebuild effectively needing
3 full backs
1 centre back
2 midfielders
2 forwards for that money
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Say£30M as sheaf will be off too I'd wager, of course, but might be a team built for L1 rather than Prem dream?
 

shmmeee

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  • Oct 7, 2024
  • #70
You do NOT want to do a squad rebuild in January FFS.
 
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