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A manager is never going to say there are easy games in public. It makes a rod for his own back and players complacent. It doesn't take a football genius to work out some games should however be easier than others.
A manager is never going to say there are easy games in public. It makes a rod for his own back and players complacent. It doesn't take a football genius to work out some games should however be easier than others.What’s your point?
Just for clarity I am pete and live in styvechale but I’m not pete from styvechale
Point to me an easy game for Coventry in the championship. We are a team full of players with very little experience at this level.A manager is never going to say there are easy games in public. It makes a rod for his own back and players complacent. It doesn't take a football genius to work out some games should however be easier than others.
Did I say easy or did I say easier?Point to me an easy game for Coventry in the championship. We are a team full of players with very little experience at this level.
The point is we have no divine right to think any games are easy or easier. Bournemouth etc can afford to look at games like that because they have arguably a premier league standard squad but if we lose on Saturday it’ll not be considered a shock to the neutral by any stretchDid I say easy or did I say easier?
I think Pulis’s first game as a manager was as Gillingham boss and came to HR in the league cup and won 1-0.Pulis yet to win a game as manager of Sheffield Wednesday... so I'm saying 1-0 defeat for Cov.
Did we have a divine right to think games we're easier when we were in league 2? If no then nothing has changed in the championship and if yes you're calling robins a liar.The point is we have no divine right to think any games are easy or easier. Bournemouth etc can afford to look at games like that because they have arguably a premier league standard squad but if we lose on Saturday it’ll not be considered a shock to the neutral by any stretch
We were one of the promotion favourites so we inevitably looked at some games as easier. Robins quite rightly didn’t say as such but we as fans looked at games against the likes of Barnet as games we should win.Did we have a divine right to think games we're easier when we were in league 2? If no then nothing has changed in the championship and if yes you're calling robins a liar.
But MR said there were no easy games then. If he was lying then he could be lying now!?We were one of the promotion favourites so we inevitably looked at some games as easier. Robins quite rightly didn’t say as such but we as fans looked at games against the likes of Barnet as games we should win.
I think Pulis’s first game as a manager was as Gillingham boss and came to HR in the league cup and won 1-0.
He could be lying too, I don't know who to trust anymore. When will Bill Gates take control of me to stop all of this confusion?Kyle McFadzean echoing the thoughts of the more sensible posters on here...
INTERVIEW: Kyle McFadzean Sheffield Wednesday Preview
Kyle McFadzean says the Sky Blues are “full of confidence” ahead of their trip to Sheffield Wednesday on Saturday afternoon.www.ccfc.co.uk
Apologies that was a typo. I meant 5-4-1/5-3-2. 4-3-3 isn't an option in my view as we just don't have the wingers at our disposal with the exception to perhaps Giles. There's a question mark over whether Jobello could meet the standard required at this level even if fit and both Hillsner and Kastaneer are unlikely to feature anytime soon. The box formation is interesting and something that would accommodate our midfielders well. It would also give the full backs license to go forward. The only issue would be that we have wing backs, not full backs.
As I've previously said, the formation wasn't the primary issue with us conceding goals - it was a factor but it wasn't the overarching reason. Agreed. Although I like him, I personally can't understand the logic behind recruiting Walker. We obviously needed another striker, but Walker is as you say a poacher. Given the way we play it would've made far more sense to recruit a player in the mould of John Marquis (but not him as I doubt whether he would be able to cut it in the Championship). Walker is quite similar to Godden in many ways, just more athletic.
Personally I think it's difficult to include Norwich in your argument. By my count they had over 13 players out injured including all senior strikers. It was still always going to be a tough game but that certainly provided us with a significant advantage going into the game - especially as their main attacking threats didn't feature. I think this is probably why Robins reverted back to utilising wing backs. I do think two up top is the way forward though, as seen in previous games launching balls up to Walker with no support only serves to gift the ball back to the opposition. Walker has a knack for picking up second balls quickly and chasing down flick ons, so a pairing of him and Biamou is certainly the more logical option moving forward.
Kyle McFadzean echoing the thoughts of the more sensible posters on here...
INTERVIEW: Kyle McFadzean Sheffield Wednesday Preview
Kyle McFadzean says the Sky Blues are “full of confidence” ahead of their trip to Sheffield Wednesday on Saturday afternoon.www.ccfc.co.uk
When is the next Styvechale census due? That should clear things upFrankly I find that very difficult to believe. Pete is such an unusual and rare name and Styvechale such a small place, that the chance of two Petes living there must be tiny.
The point is we have no divine right to think any games are easy or easier. Bournemouth etc can afford to look at games like that because they have arguably a premier league standard squad but if we lose on Saturday it’ll not be considered a shock to the neutral by any stretch
Their starting 11 was still more than strong enough and don't forget we were without Godden and had just had our first choice keeper put out for 6 weeks. We had to start a semi-fit Dabo and replace him with Jobello at RWB, it's not as though we had an array of riches for that game. Am I then allowed to discount some of those draws against sides in poor form?
Last time I went there we lost 5-1 on 28th December (94?). Was bloody freezing and there were about 100 cov there (if that). Think it was 4-1 when we left to get (more) drunk.We haven’t played at Hillsborough for 10 years and we’ve only won one game there since 1999?
He wasn’t lying on either occasion. The objectives are different this time and the standard of opposition is of a higher quality. No manager has ever said that a game should be easy. It’s the fact that some of you expect us to walk through teams like we’re Barcelona that makes me chuckleBut MR said there were no easy games then. If he was lying then he could be lying now!?
How was it when their attacking potency was practically all but void with Pukki and Buendia out? Not forgetting other crucial players such as Krul, McClean, Cantwell being absent as well. Baring in mind Pukki and Buendia have scored 6 out of the 9 goals Norwich have netted since playing against us, it's quite clear how vital both players are to the success of the side. Even Farke said in his post match comments after the game he wasn't all that surprised with the result due to their injury troubles.
Are you claiming that Norwich side was as strong in front of goal as both Bournemouth and Watford were then?
I've seen us win at Hillsborough twice I think, the 99 game with Huckerby or Whelan scoring a winner, think the latter and approximately 2009 when Clinton Morrison scored.
I also went in December 2007 when the game got abandoned due to rain, I missed the last fast train back to Manchester pissed up so ended up with a big taxi fare from Manc.
I went to Hillsborough in the mid nineties but for the life of me I cannot remember the resultI've seen us win at Hillsborough twice I think, the 99 game with Huckerby or Whelan scoring a winner, think the latter and approximately 2009 when Clinton Morrison scored.
I also went in December 2007 when the game got abandoned due to rain, I missed the last fast train back to Manchester pissed up so ended up with a big taxi fare from Manc.
We sat off a team devoid of confidence and allowed them to get into their stride only to be saved by a last minute goal. It was hardly a success. At the time they were the lowest scorers in the division and we sat ten men behind the ball against them. And still conceded.
I don’t believe in hiding from poor teams low on confidence. It gives them a boost. Better to get at them and try for an early goal to knock the stuffing out of them.
I get that some think we’re the worst team in the league and should be grateful for every point, but I don’t agree. I think we’re a lower half Championship team and should act like it.
More to the point I worry that if we don’t open up a gap from the bottom three now when we’re on an easier run of games, we’ll be fucked come Feb.
I can think of a couple of other wins I saw at Hillsborough. The 1987 FA cup quarter and semi finals.I've seen us win at Hillsborough twice I think, the 99 game with Huckerby or Whelan scoring a winner, think the latter and approximately 2009 when Clinton Morrison scored.
I also went in December 2007 when the game got abandoned due to rain, I missed the last fast train back to Manchester pissed up so ended up with a big taxi fare from Manc.
It wasn't, but it was still a strong 11. As above, which other games am I allowed to say 'don't count'? Since the break we haven't conceded from open play with 5 at the back. It kind of supports what we have both said that the shape wasn't the main issue.
That's absolutely spot on. Some people won't let you criticise the Derby game because they think we should be grateful to even be playing them in the first place.
If anything getting a point against us went some way to spurring on their confidence.
I get that our team is depleted at the moment, but we should have beaten Derby. In the end we very nearly lost.
I understand no one wants to lose tomorrow, but we have to be beating teams like Wednesday. I almost don't know if I want to watch.
That's absolutely spot on. Some people won't let you criticise the Derby game because they think we should be grateful to even be playing them in the first place.
If anything getting a point against us went some way to spurring on their confidence.
I get that our team is depleted at the moment, but we should have beaten Derby. In the end we very nearly lost.
I understand no one wants to lose tomorrow, but we have to be beating teams like Wednesday. I almost don't know if I want to watch.
Well we'll have to agree to disagree. The fact they lost to Luton comfortably the game afterwards also indicates that they weren't anywhere near full strength and suffered significantly as a result of key players being absent. I don't quite know why you're quoting 'don't count' when I didn't actually post those words. I'm merely offering context to games which you seem to conveniently ignore.
What's the relevance of bringing up other results? Again, my response was to your attempt to shoehorn evidence into your argument without due consideration of the context.
I can think of a couple of other wins I saw at Hillsborough. The 1987 FA cup quarter and semi finals.
Brighton v Kenilworth sounds a lot softer than Portsmouth Docks v Wood End; now that I would pay to see
Did we have a divine right to think games we're easier when we were in league 2? If no then nothing has changed in the championship and if yes you're calling robins a liar.
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