Shit List (2 Viewers)

dongonzalos · Oct 7, 2012

On the slagging off list a few weeks ago

Baker
Ball
Bell
Brown
Kilbane
Daniels (kid playing out of position)
Hussey
Sheff

This week Baker and Ball seem to have made it off, the 'cov fans giving their own players shit list'.

Fingers crossed the shit seasoned international and others on the list with great ability will prove the moaners wrong.

CODY!!! · Oct 7, 2012

Heard Bell is on his way out aswell as Malaga?

dongonzalos · Oct 7, 2012

Where did u hear it

Grendel · Oct 7, 2012

I'm just glad Thorn is off the list.

Think Robins will think some of his signings are on that list though and they will be off.

ggrady · Oct 7, 2012

Mcsheffrey is worse than all of those players

CODY!!! · Oct 7, 2012

dongonzalos said:
Where did u hear it

Yesterday at the game, some of the fans think hes not even been turning up to the games even when hes not picked - you know, they sit just behind the dugout if they're not in the match squad or injured.

Northampton was mentioned aswell for his transfer destination

dongonzalos · Oct 7, 2012

Although I did not agree with the sacking of AT. Have to admit Robins has got a way about him.

However with Malaga as a permanent signing would have preferred him to stay and Brown as a loanee to go back, if we are top heavy on centre backs due to woods transfer falling through.

Must be a bit more to that one.

dongonzalos · Oct 7, 2012

Interesting not sure if Bell has been there or not.

I think as an injured player you should be there as you are paid to be there. It may keep you in with the team bonding etc aswell

dongonzalos · Oct 7, 2012

ggrady said:
Mcsheffrey is worse than all of those players

Ah a lad who loves coventry and is a fan himself, forgot to add him to the slagging list sorry, will edit now.

Nick · Oct 7, 2012

dongonzalos said:
Ah a lad who loves coventry and is a fan himself, forgot to add him to the slagging list sorry, will edit now.

Does that mean he is playing well then?

Grendel · Oct 7, 2012

Nick said:
Does that mean he is playing well then?

No he deserves to be on the list. Murphy is always on the list and shouldn't be.

Grendel · Oct 7, 2012

dongonzalos said:
Ah a lad who loves coventry and is a fan himself, forgot to add him to the slagging list sorry, will edit now.

How do we know he "loves" Coventry? Funny way of showing it.

CODY!!! · Oct 7, 2012

Funny - Murphy had one of the better games ive seen from him yesterday. I really rate him as a keeper at this level, only thing he doesnt do that pisses me off is get the ball down the pitch quick enough after a set piece. he stands there with his arms at the sides and shouts. reminds me of Westy in that respect

DH - Sky Blue · Oct 7, 2012

dongonzalos said:
Interesting not sure if Bell has been there or not.

I think as an injured player you should be there as you are paid to be there. It may keep you in with the team bonding etc aswell

Well he was definitely there at the Carlisle game because I saw him beforehand all suited up coming out of Next at the Arena Park with Chris Hussey and some skirt. Unless he was just shopping getting some use out of his suit, he's not exactly going to get much use out of it at awards events or anything...

dongonzalos · Oct 7, 2012

Nick said:
Does that mean he is playing well then?

Nope, just don't see what good comes from slagging off your own players and booing them at matches. It clearly destroyed husseys confidence.

dongonzalos · Oct 7, 2012

Grendel said:
No he deserves to be on the list. Murphy is always on the list and shouldn't be.

Murphy is a good keeper, not sure he is slagged off enough to make the list.

RichieGunns · Oct 7, 2012

dongonzalos said:
Brown as a loanee to go back.

Have to keep him till the end of the season (FA loan Regulations) so selling Malaga is a way of freeing up current wages to bring in players that Robins wants.

We can't get rid of Brown so we have to stick with him.

Besides Robins has said he believes there is room for improvement when it comes to Brown. He's obviously doing Fergie a favour!

Maybe Malaga will be more suited to League 2 and if some of the lads on here have it right, he may not be suited to the British game full stop...we may never know!

RichieGunns · Oct 7, 2012

CODY!!! said:
Funny - Murphy had one of the better games ive seen from him yesterday. I really rate him as a keeper at this level, only thing he doesnt do that pisses me off is get the ball down the pitch quick enough after a set piece. he stands there with his arms at the sides and shouts. reminds me of Westy in that respect

Someone gave a good reason for why he does this.

He can either:

- punt it down field while his players are still getting into their positions (meaning theres no one to receive it and it goes straight back to the opporsition)

Or

- Wait until his player are in position and then get the ball up to them, hopefully ensuring the ball stays in our possession.

I know which option I'd chose!

I'd say the only time he should be smashing it out quickly is when he spots a player (like Goldie, Cody, Ball or Fleck etc) either making a run forward or in an advanced position with no company around them (because the oppersition is still tracking back).

All other times he needs to make sure there are players set up to receive his kicks etc so taking his time is more down to the rest of the players not getting into position fast enough rather than to him being slow etc

dongonzalos · Oct 7, 2012

I wasnt having a pop at Brown. Was just thinking Malaga is a permanent signing, whereas Brown is a loanee.

Did not realize he is here till the end.

Was thinking if he was on the bench all the time Fergie may send him elsewhere in January. Whereas Malaga is ours.

Plus I thought transfer listing Malaga does not mean he will go anywhere. Whereas Brown as a loanee could go back.

However sounds like that is not an issue.

RichieGunns · Oct 7, 2012

dongonzalos said:
I wasnt having a pop at Brown. Was just thinking Malaga is a permanent signing, whereas Brown is a loanee.

Did not realize he is here till the end.

Was thinking if he was on the bench all the time Fergie may send him elsewhere in January. Whereas Malaga is ours.

Plus I thought transfer listing Malaga does not mean he will go anywhere. Whereas Brown as a loanee could go back.

However sounds like that is not an issue.

I wont go into it in detail but its all to do with a specific claus in the loan contract. If it exists then we can send him back in January. But if it doesn't then we have to keep him till the end of the season!

Sir Alex could recall him but again there has to a certain claus in the contract for him to be able to do it etc

It's called a right royal pain in the ass lol

On Malaga I can only assume Robins doesn't think he's cut out for this league or our team.

He seemed genuin though when saying he would find him a good club to go too.

FRY-CCFC · Oct 8, 2012

Kilbane is slow and shit slows down the tempo of our play he should just retire

skyblueinBaku · Oct 8, 2012

RichieGunns said:
Someone gave a good reason for why he does this.

He can either:

- punt it down field while his players are still getting into their positions (meaning theres no one to receive it and it goes straight back to the opporsition)

Or

- Wait until his player are in position and then get the ball up to them, hopefully ensuring the ball stays in our possession.

I know which option I'd chose!

I'd say the only time he should be smashing it out quickly is when he spots a player (like Goldie, Cody, Ball or Fleck etc) either making a run forward or in an advanced position with no company around them (because the oppersition is still tracking back).

All other times he needs to make sure there are players set up to receive his kicks etc so taking his time is more down to the rest of the players not getting into position fast enough rather than to him being slow etc

I noticed this on Saturday. Murphy has to stand in the area with the ball waiting for the outfield players to jog slowly to what seems to be a pre-determined position. None of them seemed to be in a hurry, and no-one turned to look in Murphy's direction. Maybe they thought that the game could not continue until they were finally ready. It needs sorting out or Murphy will start getting yellow cards for time wasting.

torchomatic · Oct 8, 2012

It makes me smile when I see lines like this as if the players go out and say "I'm going to have a shocking game today, I think". No player goes out to play a poor game. If they are not good enough or have lost their ability now that's a different thing, but I certainly don't think ANY player goes out on the pitch with the intention of having a bad game.

Grendel said:
How do we know he "loves" Coventry? Funny way of showing it.

Grendel · Oct 8, 2012

torchomatic said:
It makes me smile when I see lines like this as if the players go out and say "I'm going to have a shocking game today, I think". No player goes out to play a poor game. If they are not good enough or have lost their ability now that's a different thing, but I certainly don't think ANY player goes out on the pitch with the intention of having a bad game.

You are slightly missing the point. The observation was that because a player comes from the town they end up playing for they are better players for them. This is not true and irrelevant in their performance levels.

torchomatic · Oct 8, 2012

Maybe I was missing the point, Duff. Won't be the first or last time. However, I certainly don't think McSheff has been any worse than a lot of others. Nor Barton for that matter. Nor Hussey when I come to think about it.

Otis · Oct 8, 2012

Ahh, funny you mention those three Torch, cos I think a lot of the flack aimed at these exact three players is the accusation that they have looked like they don't give a shit and could perhaps have tried quite a bit harder.

Not saying that's my thoughts, just that on here that has been the accusation at these three players and these are the three who have probably been singled out the most.

sky blue john · Oct 8, 2012

I have a problem with this thread and the need to pidgeon hole players into two catagories !!!
The problem is the amount of negativity that this breeds !!
I believe MR will sort the squad out but it will take time and even though we have just had three good results the usuall suspects on here are expecting us to run before we can walk.

SkyBlue Baker96 · Oct 8, 2012

torchomatic said:
Maybe I was missing the point, Duff. Won't be the first or last time. However, I certainly don't think McSheff has been any worse than a lot of others. Nor Barton for that matter. Nor Hussey when I come to think about it.

very well said although MR obviously see's something in barton we didn't because i know barton is a bit lazy in possion but he does have the ability to produce something special i.e a pass or shot or something maybe that's why robins uses him? untill jennings is fully fit, i'd use jennings and bailey in the centre be a very solid midfield then.

dongonzalos · Oct 8, 2012

sky blue john said:
I have a problem with this thread and the need to pidgeon hole players into two catagories !!!
The problem is the amount of negativity that this breeds !!
I believe MR will sort the squad out but it will take time and even though we have just had three good results the usuall suspects on here are expecting us to run before we can walk.

That's the whole point of the thread too much negativity.........wasted

harvey098 · Oct 9, 2012

Murphy won't be accepted because he's not Westwood.
Reece Brown won't be accepted because he's not Keogh.
Mcsheffery wont be accepted because he's not Mcsheffery of 5 years ago.

We need to accept that these players are playing in league one for a reason.... That is thier standard! I am fed up of fans booing or slagging off players, its so counter-effective.

Cov fans will never be happy and I think the majority must get a buzz out of moaning. Im sure if we won the league by 20 points some would moan that we didnt win by 30.

Mucca Mad Boys · Oct 9, 2012

I'd say get rid of:

McSheff - his poor performances aside, to high wages
Wood - if his 12k p/w wages are true, needs to go.
Bell - deserves a chance under MR, but if past performances are to go by...
Moussa - if he don't pick himself up! Been overlooked (escaping criticism) in the last two games because Barton has been equally disappointing. But I tip Moussa to pick himself up
Kilbane - has been poor but good to have at the club, signed a 1yr deal so just let it expire.

The first 3 are the big ones, Moussa just needs to pick himself up as with Barton but we aren't going to get rid of him as he has talent and we paid for him!

EDIT: let me stress that I rate Moussa but bar Arsenal, hasn't shown why he deserves a contract.

dongonzalos · Oct 9, 2012

harvey098 said:
Murphy won't be accepted because he's not Westwood.
Reece Brown won't be accepted because he's not Keogh.
Mcsheffery wont be accepted because he's not Mcsheffery of 5 years ago.

We need to accept that these players are playing in league one for a reason.... That is thier standard! I am fed up of fans booing or slagging off players, its so counter-effective.

Cov fans will never be happy and I think the majority must get a buzz out of moaning. Im sure if we won the league by 20 points some would moan that we didnt win by 30.

I agree with everything above but I think it is a vocal minority as oppose to a majority.

It just makes me laugh how the likes of baker and hussey who clearly have an abundance of ability. They are confidence players who feed off support and encouragement.

Some people cut off their nose to spite their faces.

It will be interesting to watch the shit list and see players gradually coming off it.

Ball seems to managed to do it based on 20 minutes football so it shows how fickle people are.....

dongonzalos · Oct 10, 2012

Ball definately will be off the list now.

Maybe hussey has got one leg off.

covcity4life · Oct 10, 2012

there should be no damn shit list if it leads to boos

i thought jordan clarke was shit 3 years ago,i let it out on the forum after games but never once booed him on the pitch.

Grendel · Oct 10, 2012

dongonzalos said:
Ball definately will be off the list now.

Maybe hussey has got one leg off.

Now we have a manager in charge I think you will find the list will get shorter and shorter.

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