covcity4life
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no grendel you dont udnerstand
thorn=great manager
players=all their fault
so really andy thorn had his hands tied.:facepalm:
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no grendel you dont udnerstand
thorn=great manager
players=all their fault
so really andy thorn had his hands tied.:facepalm:
dongonzalos
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That's my point these muppets who boo and trash a players confidence one minute, love them the next minute.
Carl Baker, Bell and Hussey have bags of ability. They need the crowd to give them that extra boost.
We need players like that to give us an edge.
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dongonzalos
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Also players do read these forums and sayind a young kid Jordan Clarke is shit. I would guess is going to do one of a couple of things
Either he won't give a toss what you say and it won't affect him or it will affect his confidence and you are cutting off your nose to spite your face.
Bit of a pointless thing to post if you ask me about a young kid breaking into the cov team.
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dongonzalos
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These lot won one and drew three under thorn then won one and lost 5 without him. Till what I think is a good manager robins came along.
dongonzalos
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Also, AT was trying to sign Goldie. If he had been playing in those 3 draws? Who knows.....
torchomatic
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covcity4life
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so from now on we shouldnt discuss players performances unless they play well?
WHAT THE FUCK?
you want to censor the forums aswell so that players dont get feelings hurt?
WHAT THE FUCK?
whats next? stop discussions at the pub incase it gets back to a player?
clarke was lightweight and crap,he has improved alot but still might not be the answer, i am entitled to my opinion, he gets my encouragement on the pitch,i will not LIE or censor myself just in case he browses forums haha
dongonzalos
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You are entitled to your opinion. However saying an 17/18 kid breaking into the first team is shit on a forum that he may or may not read seems to me like I say, a bit like cutting off your nose to spite your face.
Ever heard of the term contstructive criticism. Like I am doing to you now
.Maybe as above you could have said Clarke is a bit lightweight and needs to bulk up as oppose to Clarke is shit.
Up to you what you put really and yes you are entitled to to your opinion and there's mine.
lordsummerisle
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You are entitled to your opinion. However saying an 17/18 kid breaking into the first team is shit on a forum that he may or may not read seems to me like I say, a bit like cutting off your nose to spite your face.
Ever heard of the term contstructive criticism. Like I am doing to you now
Maybe as above you could have said Clarke is a bit lightweight and needs to bulk up as oppose to Clarke is shit.
Up to you what you put really and yes you are entitled to to your opinion and there's mine.
You not giving one single word of criticism to Thorn, in fact making him out to be some sort of managerial genius, didn't work.
He was still crap.
Positive thinking can only work so much, can say "I've got a 12 inch cock" as many times as I like, but it's not going to make 4 inches fall off it.
covcity4life
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ahahahh i like that one!
i said i thought he was shit,you never read my actual posts it seems as i gave opinions why i felt that was the case
and as lord points out,your ianbility to criticise thorn shows that blind posititivty does not work
i said i thought he was shit,you never read my actual posts it seems as i gave opinions why i felt that was the case
and as lord points out,your ianbility to criticise thorn shows that blind posititivty does not work
Grendel
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I feel sorry for the people who supported him. Perhaps on the anniversary of his departure we can bring out a few of the "golden oldies" - the posts saying he was the greatest since Jimmy Hill.
It gives me no satisfaction to say I was right about him - but I was.
SkyBlueRuffian
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Why would any player read this boring crap?
Grendel
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Can they read?
Absolutely. Total hypocricy. Its was OK to praise him to the hilt, yet they constantly tried to shout down anyone who suggested he wasn't up to the task.
The thorn era proved some home truths.
1) Just because the majority suggetst something does NOT mean it is necessarily true.
2) Blind support will NOT make an incompetent player play well
3) You CAN determine the ability of a manager / player in a few weeks.
4) When you cannot back up your argument without insults, you have no argument!
It was pathetic the pro-thorn guys would always insult people who suggested he was no good. Its notable that the pro thorn "fans" are the only ones who keep bringing up people bringing up Thorn (the person who attacked Grendel is a perfect example).
Has no argument, so simply puts a personal attack!
Nick
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Didn't somebody say that if Thorn was the West Ham manager they would have won the league by loads of points?
Why shouldn't people air their feelings on a forum? It is much better than booing a player at the game. Does that mean that people shouldn't be able to give honest reviews about films in case they hurt the actors feelings? What about restaurant reviews? What if the owner gets a bad review?
Why shouldn't people air their feelings on a forum? It is much better than booing a player at the game. Does that mean that people shouldn't be able to give honest reviews about films in case they hurt the actors feelings? What about restaurant reviews? What if the owner gets a bad review?
dongonzalos
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I read this post.
It says you let it out on a forum that you thought Jordan Clarke was shit 3 years ago.
I have no problem with people expressing opinions on forums.
As I am expressing mine. If you posted that you thought a 17/18 year old kid just breaking into the team was shit in a forum that he may read. Then in my opinion you are nearly as bad as those who boo players at games.
Personally I would not call a young player trying to develop shit. I would post something more constructive.
If you did do this and not just post that he was shit then fairplay, however reading your post above I think you can see where I was coming from.
Nick if someone beside you in the stand shouted Jordan Clarke you are Shit in his early days. Or if it was done to Daniels now. What would you think about them. I know it is up to them but I can say that I think it is a pointless stupid thing to do.
I have never said people can't post what they want. They can but I can also express an opinion that I think calling a player shit that may read it. Does no good.
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dongonzalos
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Now regarding AT which is a seperate mater that I did not bring up. Which seems to be a bit of a red herring away from the calling a young player shit debate.
Yes I was the one with the west ham comment. Do you think that West Ham squad with the talent at its disposal should have won the league?
If I remember correctly Grendal was the only person at the start of the,season, saying AT should be given the first 3 to 4 games before a decision is made on his future. Yet he was sacked after 3 draws and a win.
Most people said 10 games I felt longer was required.
So now I feel I don't know either way if he would have achieved or not. I have no issue having a word said against him.
This squad should be promoted. My personal opinion is it will happen with Robins. I also feel it probably would have happened with AT.
As much as I don't know if it would have, those who say no chance also have no idea. Who can tell anything after three games ?
Yes I was the one with the west ham comment. Do you think that West Ham squad with the talent at its disposal should have won the league?
If I remember correctly Grendal was the only person at the start of the,season, saying AT should be given the first 3 to 4 games before a decision is made on his future. Yet he was sacked after 3 draws and a win.
Most people said 10 games I felt longer was required.
So now I feel I don't know either way if he would have achieved or not. I have no issue having a word said against him.
This squad should be promoted. My personal opinion is it will happen with Robins. I also feel it probably would have happened with AT.
As much as I don't know if it would have, those who say no chance also have no idea. Who can tell anything after three games ?
dongonzalos
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Grendel
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Well of course we don't know if he would have achieved. We don't know if AT will become an astronaut and be the first man on Mars. We don't know if he will not win a Nobel Prize in Science. Of course no-one knows the future only the past.
So we do know he got the club relegated. We do know he still didn't win a game in the next tier down. We do know he was statistcally the worst manager in a century.
So we know he was shit.
dongonzalos
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Don't use the word shit, he may read this be more constructive in your criticism......
Grendel
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You are making a huge assumption there.