Liquid Gold
Well-Known Member
So because of what somebody decides to do with their own bodies they are not deserving of respect?
So because of what somebody decides to do with their own bodies they are not deserving of respect?screw them. they can lead a enjoyable life without drugs.
So because of what somebody decides to do with their own bodies they are not deserving of respect?
Nobody is expecting sympathy, as far as I can tell people just want sensible policy that reduces harm for both the user and society.just dont expect sympathy.
So because of what somebody decides to do with their own bodies they are not deserving of respect?
just dont expect sympathy.
reducing harm for user would be not to take drugs. i mean it really is that simple.Nobody is expecting sympathy, as far as I can tell people just want sensible policy that reduces harm for both the user and society.
no idea what that isDoes that extend to people who chew paan?
That's really not the point I was making at all is it. That is doing something to somebody else's body and completely out of order.If they go around spitting on people, touching and assaulting women then no they don't.
That's really not the point I was making at all is it. That is doing something to somebody else's body and completely out of order.
The issue is that when they take drugs they have a massive impact on society as a whole either through their behaviour whilst on drugs, after they've taken drugs or whilst they're trying to get drugs. I really don't care what impact drug use has on the person taking them but it has so many more ways that it impacts on everyone else in society whether directly or indirectly.That's really not the point I was making at all is it. That is doing something to somebody else's body and completely out of order.
And the evidence shows that the wider impact on society is massively reduced when more sensible laws are in place.The issue is that when they take drugs they have a massive impact on society as a whole either through their behaviour whilst on drugs, after they've taken drugs or whilst they're trying to get drugs. I really don't care what impact drug use has on the person taking them but it has so many more ways that it impacts on everyone else in society whether directly or indirectly.
They may well be for hard users and addicts but you'll still get the antisocial and aggressive behaviour of the recreational users as Oucho's other half and plenty of law abiding supporters found out at the weekend. I'm not sure what the answer is really. Give em all enough to kill themselves or try and stop it all. Either way it needs a lot more to be done than is being done at the moment.And the evidence shows that the wider impact on society is massively reduced when more sensible laws are in place.
And the evidence shows that the wider impact on society is massively reduced when more sensible laws are in place.
Well the government's chief advisor on the matter suggested decriminalisation and treating it as a public health, rather than law and order, issue. He was sacked because it wasn't politically palatable.They may well be for hard users and addicts but you'll still get the antisocial and aggressive behaviour of the recreational users as Oucho's other half and plenty of law abiding supporters found out at the weekend. I'm not sure what the answer is really. Give em all enough to kill themselves or try and stop it all. Either way it needs a lot more to be done than is being done at the moment.
Well the government's chief advisor on the matter suggested decriminalisation and treating it as a public health, rather than law and order, issue. He was sacked because it wasn't politically palatable.
Also I'm in no way excusing what happened to Oucho's other half or any of the fans affected by the twats on Saturday. They should have to deal with the consequences of my actions. As I said earlier in the thread though a lot of the trouble I've seen has been caused by men who are old enough to know better and seem to feel invincible after a few drinks with no sign of drug use.
By "all other countries" you mean a minority of countries, right?
I stick by my point, by definition, if something is against the law then there is something wrong with it....by very definition.
Good god you are not taken in by that arrogant oaf David Nutt are you?
Ignore his fishing.You really are a fuckwit in an arseholes clothing.
More than one government advisor has recommended downgrading cannabis.
The issue is that when they take drugs they have a massive impact on society as a whole either through their behaviour whilst on drugs, after they've taken drugs or whilst they're trying to get drugs. I really don't care what impact drug use has on the person taking them but it has so many more ways that it impacts on everyone else in society whether directly or indirectly.
You really are a fuckwit in an arseholes clothing.
More than one government advisor has recommended downgrading cannabis.
Indeed. I gave up around 8 years ago having smoked it for around 12 years.I used to smoke it myself but gave it up earlier this year. Despite not smoking it, I fully support legalisation. Drugs such as Cannabis and Ecstacy are much less harmful than alcohol and users taking them impact society much less than alcohol.
You really are a fuckwit in an arseholes clothing.
More than one government advisor has recommended downgrading cannabis.
Is there any subject you don't know more about than people who have studied / worked in for years?I will educate you
Have you read why he recommended downgrading ecstasy and lsd.Professor Nutt wanted to downgrade LSD and Ecstacy.
The passive ignorance of people like you is astonishing.
When you say "downgrade" you probably swallowed the dear Professors claim that 160,000 users are "criminalised" a year. A nonsense argument when only 22,000 went to court and many of them received a slap on the wrist.
His league table ranking of harmful substances is also fatally flawed - I will educate you and liquid gold on this when you name the other advisors and what then actually said.
Facts are so much better than empty rhetoric don't you think?
Is there any subject you don't know more about than people who have studied / worked in for years?
They might not have but I'm pretty sure Professor Nutt DM, FRCP, FRCPSYCH, FSB, FMEDSCI, chair in Neuropsychopharmacology at Imperial College, chair of the Independent Scientific Committee on Drugs, president of the European Brain Council, former president of the British Association of Psychopharmacology, former president of the British Neuroscience Association, former president of the European College of Neuropsychopharmacology, winner of the John Maddox Prize, winner of the Transmission Prize and named in The Times 100 most important figures in british science has a vague idea what he's talking about.I wasn't aware Schmeee and Liquid gold had.
They might not have but I'm pretty sure Professor Nutt DM, FRCP, FRCPSYCH, FSB, FMEDSCI, chair in Neuropsychopharmacology at Imperial College, chair of the Independent Scientific Committee on Drugs, president of the European Brain Council, former president of the British Association of Psychopharmacology, former president of the British Neuroscience Association, former president of the European College of Neuropsychopharmacology, winner of the John Maddox Prize, winner of the Transmission Prize and named in The Times 100 most important figures in british science has a vague idea what he's talking about.
I imagine they probably do but then I'm not on here claiming to know more than them. Isn't David Nutt one of their fellows?Do these people
Hi Dave, you must be new. Welcome to SBT...Is there any subject you don't know more about than people who have studied / worked in for years?
Legalising Cannabis is probably coming in the next decade. The Liberals already have it as policy.
Just do an experiment, walk past a dozen young people smoking in a park (or other relatively secluded location) bet you at least 1/4 of them are smoking pot not tabs.
It isn't feasible to police its use any more, better to legalise it and get some tax.
People are fuelling God only knows what other crime by taking it though !To be honest mate its not really like that. If you're drinking coke will sharpen you up and stop you being too hammered. Not that I've ever taken it officer.
Definitely, the whole trade behind it is disgusting.People are fuelling God only knows what other crime by taking it though !
best to ban it and put users in jail
then in future generations these kids will be playing in the park and not smoking.
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