Match Thread Shrewsbury Town vs. Coventry City Match Thread - Saturday 22nd Dec (2 Viewers)

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Nick

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Esoterica said:
Part of the issue we have now in my opinion - we didn't address the glaring issues that were there when we were on that winning run.
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Exactly, it was as if everything was perfect and you couldn't mention it.
 
JulianDarbyFTW

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Towards the end of last season, Robins took the decision to be bold. For some reason, he's gone back into a defensive mindset. Maybe he thinks we aren't good enough to play open football. I kind of agree, but I wish he'd give the players some level of free reign. They just seem overly restricted in what they are allowed to do resulting in dull games and, right now, demoralising defeats. This will be another. 2-0 Shrews.
 
Gibbo

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stevefloyd said:
I would drop shipley stick doyle and kelly in the middle and Bayliss and Thomas out wide...Bayliss out wide is not the best option but a damn sight better than Shipley out there then bring Allesani on later
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I agree with all of that. A Bayliss-Kelly-Doyle-Thomas has been the obvious choice for a couple of weeks now. Last Saturday Allessani did more than enough to warrant a longer sub appearance
 
steve82

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Gibbo said:
I agree with all of that. A Bayliss-Kelly-Doyle-Thomas has been the obvious choice for a couple of weeks now. Last Saturday Allessani did more than enough to warrant a longer sub appearance
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Bayliss needs to come out the middle for sure, be that out the side or to the right wing but if you then put a Thomas on the left how much will that effect his game then to accommodate Bayliss on the right?


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I agree, I haven't been blown away by Bayliss at all !
I think we are going to struggle again.........only chance of a win is if Robins changes the formation and puts two up top. I think they are all fairly poor but would be tempted with JCH and Chaplin from the off.
 
steve82

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Nick said:
Bayliss shouldn't be undroppable.
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He’s desperate for a rest, I honestly believe that’s the real reason for his poor performances this year.

He’s played a unbelievable amount of football for a 1st full 12 months in the pro game, he barely had a few weeks off this summer too with his England call up.


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steve82

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covcity4life said:
bayliss isnt our problem imo. last thing we need is few players that are creative being dropped.

might be time to call time on shipley experiment though
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If all the planets have lined up January will arrive with a suitable left winger all ready identified to sign within days of the window opening.

This is our biggest pressing issue above form of players in my opinion.


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Esoterica

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steve82 said:
He’s desperate for a rest, I honestly believe that’s the real reason for his poor performances this year.

He’s played a unbelievable amount of football for a 1st full 12 months in the pro game, he barely had a few weeks off this summer too with his England call up.


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That might be a factor but he looked good against Walsall 1st half (his final ball was still off though) and the big difference there was where we were getting him on the ball. That for me has been the biggest issue with him this year - he tends to get the ball 10 yards inside his own half, with not a lot to aim at, when he should be receiving it top of the centre circle. As soon as he gets the ball deep, teams drop back to the top of their box and let him run out of steam.
Starting to drive me nuts. We're setting up defensively, still leaking goals, while at the expense of not maximising the potential of any of our creative players, of which the only one who has looked decent is Thomas due to his electric pace. So bored of Robins' reliance (pun not intended!) on an individual's skill to try and win a game of football. JJ, Nazon for a bit, then Bayliss last year, McNulty when he hit form, Thomas this year. It's so one dimensional - the only time we've consistently played decent team football is the last 8 games of last season when we absolutely had to win games.
 
steve82

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Esoterica said:
That might be a factor but he looked good against Walsall 1st half (his final ball was still off though) and the big difference there was where we were getting him on the ball. That for me has been the biggest issue with him this year - he tends to get the ball 10 yards inside his own half, with not a lot to aim at, when he should be receiving it top of the centre circle. As soon as he gets the ball deep, teams drop back to the top of their box and let him run out of steam.
Starting to drive me nuts. We're setting up defensively, still leaking goals, while at the expense of not maximising the potential of any of our creative players, of which the only one who has looked decent is Thomas due to his electric pace. So bored of Robins' reliance (pun not intended!) on an individual's skill to try and win a game of football. JJ, Nazon for a bit, then Bayliss last year, McNulty when he hit form, Thomas this year. It's so one dimensional - the only time we've consistently played decent team football is the last 8 games of last season when we absolutely had to win games.
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I agree with the frustration around the negative style but that’s MR style unfortunately, that’s his philosophy.

I’d like him to tweak it but I don’t see it happening yet with what players he’s got at his disposal. I don’t think he believes we’re capable of being more expansive so doesn’t run the risk.

I think we still very young naive side what lacks discipline in games to be overly expansive in this league. I think Tom Bayliss falls into this category easily too but he’s one of few attacking flair players we’ve got who could change the outcome of games in moments going through the 3rds like Thomas does.

I think that’s where promotion came too soon for the good of the side, but more for the good of the club and supporters.
It’s a building process that’s gonna need more time to get to the levels of Portsmouth and Luton.


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Liquid Gold

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I hope he goes 4-4-2 and chooses what he thinks is his best team then sticks with it for a few weeks to let them settle. It seems like he's choosing the team and formation from a tombola.
 
Nick

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Liquid Gold said:
I hope he goes 4-4-2 and chooses what he thinks is his best team then sticks with it for a few weeks to let them settle. It seems like he's choosing the team and formation from a tombola.
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Only thing is who is played down the Left?

Allisanni is due a chance but haven't seen enough of him to know how he would do as a starter there.
 
GaryMabbuttsLeftKnee

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Sorry chaps, been to 8 away games this season and seen us pick up 1 point (the drab 0-0 with AFC Wimbledon), unfortunately going again tomorrow so I wouldn't be getting your hopes up.
 
Warwickhunt

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Nick said:
Only thing is who is played down the Left?

Allisanni is due a chance but haven't seen enough of him to know how he would do as a starter there.
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We need someone who can concentrate and cover Brown when he ventures up the field! Hiwula and Shipley do but they lose concentration and mainly in the last 20 minutes they cannot be arsed!
 
Nick

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GaryMabbuttsLeftKnee said:
Sorry chaps, been to 8 away games this season and seen us pick up 1 point (the drab 0-0 with AFC Wimbledon), unfortunately going again tomorrow so I wouldn't be getting your hopes up.
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Nick

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Warwickhunt said:
We need someone who can concentrate and cover Brown when he ventures up the field! Hiwula and Shipley do but they lose concentration and mainly in the last 20 minutes they cannot be arsed!
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In the friendlies Allisanni looked like he worked hard and had a bit of grit. It's different in actual games though :(
 
shmmeee

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Nick said:
I just don't think it works when he tries to go so defensive like that.

He plays to invite pressure which worked more in League 2 because the quality wasn't as good. In League 1 we will (and do) get punished.
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Have always been convinced the quality of attackers is significantly higher than defenders in the lower leagues and it’s always best to get on the front foot.
 
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Now Kelly has got a couple of games under his belt I think we have to go with the Doyle, Kelly & Bayliss combination in midfield that finished last season so well. Not sure they have started a game together yet this season.
 
Nick

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Legia Sky Blue said:
Now Kelly has got a couple of games under his belt I think we have to go with the Doyle, Kelly & Bayliss combination in midfield that finished last season so well. Not sure they have started a game together yet this season.
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Is that with Bayliss on the right?

Think it's worth a go, if Bayliss goes on a mad run it doesn't leave us as open. Can then put Thomas on the left.
 
Warwickhunt

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Nick said:
Is that with Bayliss on the right?

Think it's worth a go, if Bayliss goes on a mad run it doesn't leave us as open. Can then put Thomas on the left.
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i would give Thomas a break and bring him on as a second half sub if required! he has looked jaded as of late! short sharp shock might focus him a bit
 
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