sign of the times at CCFC (1 Viewer)

Grendel · Jan 26, 2015

Ultimately the thorn argument was decided by his car crash appearance at Kidderminster. He knifed in the back an individual gullible enough to give him another chance. The chairman had to resign due to a hate campaign for appointing the clueless chancer and thorn even blamed him for restricting his tactics. Still dongle and MMM cling to the wreckage.

Appointing thorn was a disaster which ranson can be blamed for. Retaining him is the fault of Waggot fisher and the deranged idiots on here.

Without doubt this club would be far healthier today if that oaf has never set foot in coventry.

AndreasB · Jan 26, 2015

Grendel said:
Ultimately the thorn argument was decided by his car crash appearance at Kidderminster. He knifed in the back an individual gullible enough to give him another chance. The chairman had to resign due to a hate campaign for appointing the clueless chancer and thorn even blamed him for restricting his tactics. Still dongle and MMM cling to the wreckage.

Appointing thorn was a disaster which ranson can be blamed for. Retaining him is the fault of Waggot fisher and the deranged idiots on here.

Without doubt this club would be far healthier today if that oaf has never set foot in coventry.

I strongly believe most of those who come on here and defend Thorn as a bit player in this farce, never went to matches in that last Championship season. How else could you explain it?

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italiahorse · Jan 26, 2015

AndreasB said:
I strongly believe most of those who come on here and defend Thorn as a bit player in this farce, never went to matches in that last Championship season. How else could you explain it?

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I could have told them that being a scout does not qualify you as a manager.
Felt sorry for the guy out his depth.
Similar to Pressley really although Pressley has the added problem of being given poor players including loanees that he definitely doesn't want..

covhead1 · Jan 26, 2015

What division were we in again?

Astute · Jan 27, 2015

Grendel said:
Without doubt this club would be far healthier today if that oaf has never set foot in coventry.

Dream on. SISU were already at our club and had started selling anyone they could get cash for by then.

Or is this another attempt to blame anyone but SISU for their appalling luck in running our club?

Astute · Jan 27, 2015

AndreasB said:
I strongly believe most of those who come on here and defend Thorn as a bit player in this farce, never went to matches in that last Championship season. How else could you explain it?

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So SISU got rid of our best players but our club is fucked because Thorn was our manager for a short time?

EastLancsCov · Jan 27, 2015

Moff said:
Wont you have to wait until next season when the Saints hammer Wasps at the Ricoh?

That bitterness is going to eat you up.

skybluetony176 · Jan 27, 2015

Astute said:
Dream on. SISU were already at our club and had started selling anyone they could get cash for by then.

Or is this another attempt to blame anyone but SISU for their appalling luck in running our club?

And the saying "you create your own luck" has never been truer than it is with SISU.

fernandopartridge · Jan 27, 2015

Astute said:
So SISU got rid of our best players but our club is fucked because Thorn was our manager for a short time?

Can't remember which players were actually sold? King & Westwood went on frees as they got better offers. Turner likewise?

Nick · Jan 27, 2015

Turner was sold wasn't he?

Astute · Jan 27, 2015

Nick said:
Turner was sold wasn't he?

IIRC the fee was decided because of his age.

Astute · Jan 27, 2015

fernandopartridge said:
Can't remember which players were actually sold? King & Westwood went on frees as they got better offers. Turner likewise?

They certainly did get better offers. SISU never offered Westwood a contract although he said in public that he would accept a much lower offer than he was on. King was told he was going to get offered a contract but it wasn't offered until it was too late.

chiefdave · Jan 27, 2015

Astute said:
They certainly did get better offers. SISU never offered Westwood a contract although he said in public that he would accept a much lower offer than he was on. King was told he was going to get offered a contract but it wasn't offered until it was too late.

Wasn't King offered 2 years and when the contract turned up it was 1 year or something like that?

stupot07 · Jan 27, 2015

Astute said:
They certainly did get better offers. SISU never offered Westwood a contract although he said in public that he would accept a much lower offer than he was on. King was told he was going to get offered a contract but it wasn't offered until it was too late.

Don't you mean Murphy not Westwood? And did he actually say "much lower" or just "lower"?

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lordsummerisle · Jan 27, 2015

chiefdave said:
Wasn't King offered 2 years and when the contract turned up it was 1 year or something like that?

He got a year knocked off for good behaviour.

AndreasB · Jan 27, 2015

Astute said:
So SISU got rid of our best players but our club is fucked because Thorn was our manager for a short time?

The time we went down, yes.

Astute · Jan 27, 2015

AndreasB said:
The time we went down, yes.

As in the season that SISU started selling players and not replacing them? And then we had one player scoring goals so SISU sent him out on loan before selling him when it looked as though we might get out of trouble............yes I remember the time.

stupot07 · Jan 27, 2015

Astute said:
As in the season that SISU started selling players and not replacing them? And then we had one player scoring goals so SISU sent him out on loan before selling him when it looked as though we might get out of trouble............yes I remember the time.

Whilst I agree with the sentiment, re: Juke were were rooted at the bottom of the league when we sold him, an we let him go on an emergency loan only because middlesborough couldn't get the deal done in time for him to play in their next match. We only started to find some form when he left and Norwood and Nimely came in.

There is an issue, and I'm purely playing devils advocate here, that when the rent is mentioned, some say that rent wasn't the issue, the wage bill was too high.....Sisu were addressing the high wage bill.

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Cheshire Sky Blue · Jan 27, 2015

stupot07 said:
Whilst I agree with the sentiment, re: Juke were were rooted at the bottom of the league when we sold him, an we let him go on an emergency loan only because middlesborough couldn't get the deal done in time for him to play in their next match. We only started to find some form when he left and Norwood and Nimely came in.

There is an issue, and I'm purely playing devils advocate here, that when the rent is mentioned, some say that rent wasn't the issue, the wage bill was too high.....Sisu were addressing the high wage bill.

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Hmm, No they were just making a total fuck of it.

Astute · Jan 28, 2015

stupot07 said:
Whilst I agree with the sentiment, re: Juke were were rooted at the bottom of the league when we sold him, an we let him go on an emergency loan only because middlesborough couldn't get the deal done in time for him to play in their next match. We only started to find some form when he left and Norwood and Nimely came in.

There is an issue, and I'm purely playing devils advocate here, that when the rent is mentioned, some say that rent wasn't the issue, the wage bill was too high.....Sisu were addressing the high wage bill.

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No need to play devils advocate here. The rent was just over 10% of outgoings. The wage bill took nearly everything else. The 'unsustainable rent' was the reason for us going to Northampton and all the bullshit that happened afterwards. The wage bill for average players was the reason for our plight. This did need reducing. And reducing drastically. But we ended up with poor players on an average wage. Performances went down and attendances followed. And a lot of this is to also do with the way our club is being run.

We are now being told that our wage budget is about average for Division 3. But I would like Fisher to say what our wage bill is and not budget.

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