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Deleted member 5849 · Nov 23, 2014

Tonylinc said:
Righteous??? there is no righteousness in not allowing a person a second chance in life......check out that big book my friend.

How do you give someone a second chance when they refuse to acknowledge their guilt, and continue to attempt to blacken a girl's name?

Why would you even consider giving him a chance until all legal avenues he chose to explore had been exhausted, and he either proves to be one of the infinitesmally small proportion of people who are wrongly convicted, or he recants and acknowledges his failings after all.

Or would you rather be humbled in his presence?

Morals? My arse.

stupot07 · Nov 23, 2014

ccfcway said:
i must say I am pretty sure I would !

It's not as if we reminisce about George curtis, ernie hunt, George Hudson, tommy Hutchinson, Dublin, baker, et al.

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Tonylinc · Nov 23, 2014

ccfcway said:
i must say I am pretty sure I would !

Ok tell me who scored the goals which got us promoted to the First Division.........without using Whiki.

ccfcway · Nov 23, 2014

Tonylinc said:
Ok tell me who scored the goals which got us promoted to the First Division.........without using Whiki.

i wasnt alive then...

I know who score against Tottenham to keep us up, who scored against Man Utd, etc etc.

Tonylinc · Nov 23, 2014

Deleted member 5849 said:
How do you give someone a second chance when they refuse to acknowledge their guilt, and continue to attempt to blacken a girl's name?

Why would you even consider giving him a chance until all legal avenues he chose to explore had been exhausted, and he either proves to be one of the infinitesmally small proportion of people who are wrongly convicted, or he recants and acknowledges his failings after all.

Or would you rather be humbled in his presence?

Morals? My arse.

The fact that he continues to protest his innocence even after serving his sentence tells me something which you have quite obviously missed. On the subject of morality......get over yourself.....it was never right for a club calling itself Coventry City Football Club to be playing in bloody Northampton!!!!!

ccfcway · Nov 23, 2014

hasn't this case been heard by 3 senior judges ?

Tonylinc · Nov 23, 2014

ccfcway said:
i wasnt alive then...

I know who score against Tottenham to keep us up, who scored against Man Utd, etc etc.

Point proved!

ccfcway · Nov 23, 2014

Tonylinc said:
Point proved!

how ?

There is a difference between "not remembering" and "not knowing"

I dont know as I wasnt born. I could google, but thats not the point is it ?

and to be fair, if someone scored the goals to get us to prem league, you wouldnt need to remember them, you would walk past their statue on the way to the stadium !

Deleted member 5849 · Nov 23, 2014

Tonylinc said:
The fact that he continues to protest his innocence even after serving his sentence tells me something which you have quite obviously missed. On the subject of morality......get over yourself.....it was never right for a club calling itself Coventry City Football Club to be playing in bloody Northampton!!!!!

You really are mad, aren't you.

Tonylinc · Nov 23, 2014

Deleted member 5849 said:
You really are mad, aren't you.

Why am I mad......because I don't share the same views as you?

Deleted member 5849 · Nov 23, 2014

Tonylinc said:
Why am I mad......because I don't share the same views as you?

Because you have a very warped view of morality, where you appear to be keen to decide those going to watch a football match show dubious morals...
Utterly, utterly crazy.

Samo · Nov 23, 2014

bigfatronssba said:
Ah ok, so I have no right to discuss a major new story.

Where have I said she had no right to decide who she has sex with?

You call me a dinosaur, yet you seem to want to stifle debate. Why are you so scared to talk about something like this?

I'm not scared in the slightest, bring it fucking on. Where did I say you said that? You have though, implied that by going back to the room the only real conclusion is that she wanted sex. Ignoring the glaring facts that she did not go back to the room with Evans and that she can consent or not at any time no matter what room she is in.

Broken Hearted Sky Blue · Nov 23, 2014

Samo said:
I'm not scared in the slightest, bring it fucking on. Where did I say you said that? You have though, implied that by going back to the room the only real conclusion is that she wanted sex. Ignoring the glaring facts that she did not go back to the room with Evans and that she can consent or not at any time no matter what room she is in.

You know I can see peoples point here what we do is close the academy and have our scouts who will from now on be known as probation officers based at Strangeways etc get a new team in no time sponsored by Care in thr community or Thugsrus

Grendel · Nov 23, 2014

Tonylinc said:
Why am I mad......because I don't share the same views as you?

So if Ian Huntley was a professional footballer and was let out after 10 years of.a 20 year sentence you'd be ok if we signed him?

Sick Boy · Nov 23, 2014

Tonylinc said:
No you won't.

Yes I would.

bigfatronssba · Nov 23, 2014

Samo said:
I'm not scared in the slightest, bring it fucking on. Where did I say you said that? You have though, implied that by going back to the room the only real conclusion is that she wanted sex. Ignoring the glaring facts that she did not go back to the room with Evans and that she can consent or not at any time no matter what room she is in.

I asked "Is it so wrong to ask why she did that?"

You replied "Yes it is".

Sounds like your all for restricting what I can and cannot say on this subject to me.

She went back to the room with Clayton McDonald, whom she then made false allegations of rape against.

If, as a young lad, an attractive girl told you she was coming to your hotel room after a night out, what would you think? 99.9% of the male population would think their luck is in. The fact that men think in such a way is common knowledge. I find it strange that she didn't understand that.

Now I'm not suggesting for a second that she deserved what happened to her, and Evans most probably got the correct verdict. My only point is that she isn't exactly Snow White is she?

As I asked before, do you think it was wise of her to go back to the room?

skybluefred · Nov 23, 2014

That's FORTY pages of CCFC fans insulting one another over something that has not happened.

If it becomes fact which is highly unlikely given the potential wage involved,that would be the time
for this charade.

Deleted member 5849 · Nov 23, 2014

skybluefred said:
That's FORTY pages of CCFC fans insulting one another over something that has not happened.

If it becomes fact which is highly unlikely given the potential wage involved,that would be the time
for this charade.

This is the warmup.

We're not match fit since King left.

Samo · Nov 23, 2014

bigfatronssba said:
I asked "Is it so wrong to ask why she did that?"

You replied "Yes it is".

Sounds like your all for restricting what I can and cannot say on this subject to me. I don't care if 100% of men think their luck is in and it is irrelevant that she understood that or not.

She went back to the room with Clayton McDonald, whom she then made false allegations of rape against.

If, as a young lad, an attractive girl told you she was coming to your hotel room after a night out, what would you think? 99.9% of the male population would think their luck is in. The fact that men think in such a way is common knowledge. I find it strange that she didn't understand that.

Now I'm not suggesting for a second that she deserved what happened to her, and Evans most probably got the correct verdict. My only point is that she isn't exactly Snow White is she?

As I asked before, do you think it was wise of her to go back to the room?

You do manage to spectacularly miss the point don't you. I don't care if 100% of men thought that and it is irrelevant that she understood it or not, she has the right to remain safe and free from abuse. Do I think it was wise? Why should it be wise or otherwise if our expectation is that the her rights and the law are observed. Bottom line (if you'll excuse the pun) is that I would not expect to be rogered while sleeping/incapacitated. No matter what room I'm in or who is in that room or what I had said or done beforehand! Can you not see that simple point? A line is crossed regardless of all other circumstances. Do you get that?

Sick Boy · Nov 23, 2014

bigfatronssba said:
I asked "Is it so wrong to ask why she did that?"

You replied "Yes it is".

Sounds like your all for restricting what I can and cannot say on this subject to me.

She went back to the room with Clayton McDonald, whom she then made false allegations of rape against.

If, as a young lad, an attractive girl told you she was coming to your hotel room after a night out, what would you think? 99.9% of the male population would think their luck is in. The fact that men think in such a way is common knowledge. I find it strange that she didn't understand that.

Now I'm not suggesting for a second that she deserved what happened to her, and Evans most probably got the correct verdict. My only point is that she isn't exactly Snow White is she?

As I asked before, do you think it was wise of her to go back to the room?

She isn't exsctly Snow White?

Are you saying that if a woman engages in casual sex we should be questioning her morals? What's wrong with a woman having casual sex if she pleases? This is 2014.

letsallsingtogether · Nov 23, 2014

skybluefred said:
That's FORTY pages of CCFC fans insulting one another over something that has not happened.

If it becomes fact which is highly unlikely given the potential wage involved,that would be the time
for this charade.

So how much do you pay a player that nobody wants??

Don't think he is in the market to ask for a large wage.

skybluefred · Nov 23, 2014

The word that is missing in all of this is RESPECT. Until today's generation (both male& female)
learn it these things will always happen.

Samo · Nov 23, 2014

skybluefred said:
The word that is missing in all of this is RESPECT. Until today's generation (both male& female)
learn it these things will always happen.

Rape is a new thing then is it Fred?

ccfcway · Nov 23, 2014

letsallsingtogether said:
So how much do you pay a player that nobody wants??.

dunno, what is Tudgay on ?

skybluefred · Nov 23, 2014

letsallsingtogether said:
So how much do you pay a player that nobody wants??

Don't think he is in the market to ask for a large wage.

Goalscorers of his calibre are in huge demand all over Europe, Some Club somewhere will cough up the "Ackers".

ccfcway · Nov 23, 2014

skybluefred said:
Goalscorers of his calibre are in huge demand all over Europe, Some Club somewhere will cough up the "Ackers".

yer, that 1 goal he scored in the Premier League in 2008 will mean all the big boys will be after him

He has only scored just over double figures in the top 2 leagues in this county in his entire career.

he is hardly Luis Suarez

skybluefred · Nov 23, 2014

Samo said:
Rape is a new thing then is it Fred?

It's far more prevalent than it was in my youth.

Nick · Nov 23, 2014

letsallsingtogether said:
So how much do you pay a player that nobody wants??

Don't think he is in the market to ask for a large wage.

If he had any sense he would be donating his wages to charity for a while.

skybluefred · Nov 23, 2014

ccfcway said:
yer, that 1 goal he scored in the Premier League in 2008 will mean all the big boys will be after him

Like the 35 in a season for Sheff Utd.

skybluefred · Nov 23, 2014

Nick said:
If he had any sense he would be donating his wages to charity for a while.

He will have expenses but maybe half might be a good idea.

wingy · Nov 23, 2014

letsallsingtogether said:
So how much do you pay a player that nobody wants??

Don't think he is in the market to ask for a large wage.

I think he should try somewhere on the other side of the planet .

Somewhere like Tazmania ,the original destination of the Chain Gang ,like the rest of that country about 40-50 years behind us In attitude .

Perfect fit !!!

ccfcway · Nov 23, 2014

skybluefred said:
Like the 35 in a season for Sheff Utd.

TBF, that is very impressive, but scoring in the 3rd tier of English football isnt gonna have the best of europe queuing up ?

Deleted member 5849 · Nov 23, 2014

wingy said:
I think he should try somewhere on the other side of the planet .

Somewhere like Tazmania ,the original destination of the Chain Gang ,like the rest of that country about 40-50 years behind us In attitude .

Perfect fit !!!

In all seriousness, from his POV, you'd think going off and playing somewhere else in Europe for a couple of seasons would be worthwhile, let the storm here calm down.

wingy · Nov 23, 2014

Deleted member 5849 said:
In all seriousness, from his POV, you'd think going off and playing somewhere else in Europe for a couple of seasons would be worthwhile, let the storm here calm down.

ALBANIA??

Would have to be somewhere behind the times with different social attitudes for It not to follow him.

Deleted member 5849 · Nov 23, 2014

wingy said:
ALBANIA??

Would have to be somewhere behind the times with different social attitudes for It not to follow him.

Wouldn't be *as* much though.

Plus if he doesn't speak the language he might be able to convince himself they're all chanting *for* him!

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