sign up Ched Evans (2 Viewers)

[Jack Griffin]

But the 'problem' doesn't go away now though does it, he WILL get another club.

Well tell me where the petition to stop that is & I'll sign it.

Till he is a) cleared by a court or b) shows remorse, apologises and c) does some community work to redress the balance somewhat he shouldn't get a pro. contract.

Football has to grow up their attitude to players with criminal convictions that carried a custodial sentence stinks & it needs reform, they accept standards that are far far too poor considering that players are role models to young people.

 

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[pusbccfc]

We signed Marlon King, we signed Madine, we signed Marshall, we may as well sign Evans!

 

[Covstar]

Would move the pressure away from Pressley if we signed him...

The amount of bad press this got after only letting him train, never mind handing a contract was clearly affecting their reputation as a football club and has forced sheffield united into making this decision. Their chairmen didn't think it would affect them this badly but its clearly been a rough couple of weeks for them with their sponsors pulling out, their club patron resigning and the ever so wonderful Jessica Ennis threatening to remove her name from one of their stands. Now imagine if he actually had a contract and was playing for a club... No thanks I don't need this sort of bullcrap to be associated with my club. Things are really bad as it is at Coventry city football club.

 

[LJC_CCFC]

Was obviously being sarcastic

 

[mattylad]

Everyone hates us anyway so may as well sign him

 

[letsallsingtogether]

Everyone hates us anyway so may as well sign him

would actually be a master stroke by Sisu we would all then vent our anger on him and blame the Wasps for letting it happen.

The bloke is a c**t though, if he had touched my daughter I would be locked up now for murder.

 

[Samo]

would actually be a master stroke by Sisu we would all then vent our anger on him and blame the Wasps for letting it happen.

The bloke is a c**t though, if he had touched my daughter I would be locked up now for murder.

Let's not sign him. How would that be?

 

[Broken Hearted Sky Blue]

Let's not sign him. How would that be?

I think you will find that nobody in this country will sign him

 

[Paxman II]

He served his time for his crime and like anyone else has the right to get on with his life. That said I would sign him on a provisional contract and let him train while he appeals his sentence and conviction. Should he win his appeal then I would sign him for our team and should he lose his appeal then that provisional contract would be null and void.

 

[Paxman II]

Just wanted to ask....
How many of you younger chaps on here have had boozy nights ending with a frolic around with some equally drunk girl and had sex?

Be honest!

Now how would you feel if that girl then cried rape? How many of you could easily be in the same boat but fortunately you were not a footballer?

Just putting it out there because you can switch on the TV and see drunk enthused men and women having sex in an Ibiza bar yet nothing ever comes from that?
So many on here acting like they were perfect and without thought for circumstances. Please read the case in full and come back and tell me for 100% he is a rapist.
I would stamp on his head myself and cut off his dick but this is not a clear cut case. many injustices are carried out in our courts every day. Keep an open mind and give due process a chance.

 

[Samo]

Just wanted to ask....
How many of you younger chaps on here have had boozy nights ending with a frolic around with some equally drunk girl and had sex?

Be honest!

Now how would you feel if that girl then cried rape? How many of you could easily be in the same boat but fortunately you were not a footballer?

Just putting it out there because you can switch on the TV and see drunk enthused men and women having sex in an Ibiza bar yet nothing ever comes from that?
So many on here acting like they were perfect and without thought for circumstances. Please read the case in full and come back and tell me for 100% he is a rapist.
I would stamp on his head myself and cut off his dick but this is not a clear cut case. many injustices are carried out in our courts every day. Keep an open mind and give due process a chance.

Ah just a bit of fun then Pax? These fuckin do gooder liberal types with their silly ideas! She probably wanted it right? Keep an open mind you say? It will take centuries to balance the injustices you speak of. But its just a 'frolic' right?

 

[Grendel]

Just wanted to ask....
How many of you younger chaps on here have had boozy nights ending with a frolic around with some equally drunk girl and had sex?

Be honest!

Now how would you feel if that girl then cried rape? How many of you could easily be in the same boat but fortunately you were not a footballer?

Just putting it out there because you can switch on the TV and see drunk enthused men and women having sex in an Ibiza bar yet nothing ever comes from that?
So many on here acting like they were perfect and without thought for circumstances. Please read the case in full and come back and tell me for 100% he is a rapist.
I would stamp on his head myself and cut off his dick but this is not a clear cut case. many injustices are carried out in our courts every day. Keep an open mind and give due process a chance.

That's nonsense. We don't need to read his case in full as he was tried in front of twelve citizens who found him guilty.

Due process was given a chance. The jurors considered the evidence and will have made judgements based on that and witness credibility .

What I find somewhat distasteful about this is that the victim has been vilified and now leads a life with a change of identity as if they have been guilty of a crime whereas Evans uses his wealth and privelege to parade himself with his girlfriend or wife or whoever she is in front of the media as if he is the victim.

The jury system actually rarely gets it wrong. Evans is a convicted rapist and that as it stands is that.

 

[Brighton Sky Blue]

Just wanted to ask....
How many of you younger chaps on here have had boozy nights ending with a frolic around with some equally drunk girl and had sex?

Be honest!

Now how would you feel if that girl then cried rape? How many of you could easily be in the same boat but fortunately you were not a footballer?

Just putting it out there because you can switch on the TV and see drunk enthused men and women having sex in an Ibiza bar yet nothing ever comes from that?
So many on here acting like they were perfect and without thought for circumstances. Please read the case in full and come back and tell me for 100% he is a rapist.
I would stamp on his head myself and cut off his dick but this is not a clear cut case. many injustices are carried out in our courts every day. Keep an open mind and give due process a chance.

What a bizarre post. When you're both drunk it's stupidity on both sides but when you're sober and she isn't it doesn't take a genius to work out you probably shouldn't go further. Evans knew what he was doing and therein lies the difference.

 

[SkyBlue_Bear83]

Just wanted to ask....
How many of you younger chaps on here have had boozy nights ending with a frolic around with some equally drunk girl and had sex?

Be honest!

Now how would you feel if that girl then cried rape? How many of you could easily be in the same boat but fortunately you were not a footballer?

Just putting it out there because you can switch on the TV and see drunk enthused men and women having sex in an Ibiza bar yet nothing ever comes from that?
So many on here acting like they were perfect and without thought for circumstances. Please read the case in full and come back and tell me for 100% he is a rapist.
I would stamp on his head myself and cut off his dick but this is not a clear cut case. many injustices are carried out in our courts every day. Keep an open mind and give due process a chance.

Ched Evans hadn't been drinking as far as I know.


He's already had two appeals rejected as well, one against the verdict and another appealing the sentence. Both rejected.

 

[block16]

Why are people debating whether or not he is a rapist? he was convicted. He's a rapist and no way would I want him at Cov. Why would we want to give someone a chance again after King used us? No loyalty we'd just be used to put Ched Evans' rapist face in the shop window for the summer. No way.

 

[letsallsingtogether]

That's nonsense. We don't need to read his case in full as he was tried in front of twelve citizens who found him guilty.

Due process was given a chance. The jurors considered the evidence and will have made judgements based on that and witness credibility .

What I find somewhat distasteful about this is that the victim has been vilified and now leads a life with a change of identity as if they have been guilty of a crime whereas Evans uses his wealth and privelege to parade himself with his girlfriend or wife or whoever she is in front of the media as if he is the victim.

The jury system actually rarely gets it wrong. Evans is a convicted rapist and that as it stands is that.

Correct.

 

[letsallsingtogether]

Let's not sign him. How would that be?

Fuckin right lets not sign him.

Cut his balls off, as a deterrent to others prisons already full of those types of scum.

Anyone else doing the same crime would have got 3 times longer in prison he has already got off lightly.


Well done Sheff Utd for seeing the light.

 

[LJC_CCFC]

Wish I hadn't bumped this now as people are just repeating themselves, and frankly this discussion has been done to death.

What I would love to see is the reaction to the conviction being overturned and Evans being found innocent. It really would be fascinating to see those who haven't even looked into the case and who have just taken a spineless political correctness point of view.

What is even more hilarious is the fact that the decision not to sign him by United, is not because he is a rapist, but ultimately down to money and image.

 

[italiahorse]

If I was him I'd concentrate on trying to prove he is not guilty first.

 

[Otis]

He served his time for his crime and like anyone else has the right to get on with his life. That said I would sign him on a provisional contract and let him train while he appeals his sentence and conviction. Should he win his appeal then I would sign him for our team and should he lose his appeal then that provisional contract would be null and void.

Yes, he's done his time, but he is protesting his innocence. He has shown no remorse whatsoever.

If he is innocent then the right and proper thing to do is to clear his name before returning to football. As it stands he is guilty as charged.

 

[letsallsingtogether]

Wish I hadn't bumped this now as people are just repeating themselves, and frankly this discussion has been done to death.

What I would love to see is the reaction to the conviction being overturned and Evans being found innocent. It really would be fascinating to see those who haven't even looked into the case and who have just taken a spineless political correctness point of view.

What is even more hilarious is the fact that the decision not to sign him by United, is not because he is a rapist, but ultimately down to money and image.

Spineless is right?

Spineless for taking advantage of a drunken Girl because ALL Women want to sleep with a footballer right?


If he was that desperate why didn't he go home to his missus.

The blokes a c**t and we have enough of those here at the moment.

 

[jimmyhillsfanclub]

What is even more hilarious is the fact that the decision not to sign him by United, is not because he is a rapist, but ultimately down to money and image.

I wouldn't say its hilarious.....but its certainly true..... Its a clear & damning indictment on the state of modern football.....


As a side note....his girlfriend must be some fucking sad case too......even if she believe he's innocent of rape, why would you want to be with a bloke who cheats on you at the drop of a hat after he gets a call off his mate to go & spit-roast a tubby plain-looking pissed up bird in a shitty hotel.....she must be so proud of her Cheddy.

 

[SkyBlueSid]

He served his time for his crime and like anyone else has the right to get on with his life. That said I would sign him on a provisional contract and let him train while he appeals his sentence and conviction. Should he win his appeal then I would sign him for our team and should he lose his appeal then that provisional contract would be null and void.

There does seem to be a lot of hypocrisy over this issue of 'having done their time'. People who have served their sentence are hounded for life for certain offences where certain lobbies are involved. Marlon King was, and Evans now is being regarded as a pariah for a sexual offence because certain groups never regard him as fit to work ever again.

Compare this to the case of Like McCormick who drove while drunk and caused a crash that killed two young children. He served his time and is now back as club captain at the club he played for at the time. Were these women's groups lined up at the Ricoh a couple of weeks ago when he played there (in his home city)? What McCormick did was infinitely worse than what Evans did yet he continues his career regardless.

I am not condoning either player here. Just pointing out the inconsistency of public reaction.

 

[covmark]

There does seem to be a lot of hypocrisy over this issue of 'having done their time'. People who have served their sentence are hounded for life for certain offences where certain lobbies are involved. Marlon King was, and Evans now is being regarded as a pariah for a sexual offence because certain groups never regard him as fit to work ever again.

Compare this to the case of Like McCormick who drove while drunk and caused a crash that killed two young children. He served his time and is now back as club captain at the club he played for at the time. Were these women's groups lined up at the Ricoh a couple of weeks ago when he played there (in his home city)? What McCormick did was infinitely worse than what Evans did yet he continues his career regardless.

I am not condoning either player here. Just pointing out the inconsistency of public reaction.

McCormick didn't set out to hurt anybody, don't get me wrong he's a grade A tosspot and I'm in no way condoning it, but come on Evans raped a girl that he knew was too drunk to consent. He's a rapist c**t who should rot imo.

 

[block16]

There does seem to be a lot of hypocrisy over this issue of 'having done their time'. People who have served their sentence are hounded for life for certain offences where certain lobbies are involved. Marlon King was, and Evans now is being regarded as a pariah for a sexual offence because certain groups never regard him as fit to work ever again.

Compare this to the case of Like McCormick who drove while drunk and caused a crash that killed two young children. He served his time and is now back as club captain at the club he played for at the time. Were these women's groups lined up at the Ricoh a couple of weeks ago when he played there (in his home city)? What McCormick did was infinitely worse than what Evans did yet he continues his career regardless.

I am not condoning either player here. Just pointing out the inconsistency of public reaction.

There is a lot of hypocrisy, but I'd rather take McCormick than Evans. McCormick admitted it and from all accounts is a decent man these days. He never set out to hurt anyone and made a massive mistake, almost unforgivable. We all make mistakes but if you admit to it, serve your punishment and move on to be the best person you can, who is anybody to stop that? Ched hasn't done that. He set out to rape someone, then denied it and still does to this day, without having cleared his name. It would also be a massive disrespect to the girl he raped if he played.

 

[Paxman II]

...like I said read the case files before you post an opinion. Certain elements regarding the victim were not aloud in evidence and other extenuating circumstances too. Just ask yourself why his mate was not guilty of rape and he was? She also had a history of promiscuity yet again the prosecution were able to get have this disallowed in court from being heard. I could go on but you must surely get my drift? Yes Grendel most cases are heard and the right decisions are made by the jurors after first being 'instructed' by the judge. Sometimes the arrival of judgement itself is 'unsafe' as I believe in this case to be. Like I said go read all about it not just a few media headlines.
As someone pointed out McCormack killed people yet he had no 'intention' is of no bearing. If I drank myself silly and knew I was going to drive then I knew I could very likely kill someone. I can't believe some of the things some of you are saying on here.

 

[jabharty]

From a footballing perspective, I'd have him here in a heartbeat. There's so many other perspectives though.
In my opinion, he's done his time and there shouldn't be anything stopping him going back to work and earning a living. The 'role models' argument is utter rubbish, football is full of players who are anything but; note Joey Barton, Suarez, Terry, Giggs etc. Contrary to popular belief from mob protest groups, most kids don't research the background of a player, see what he's done wrong and copy it.
In the majority of other professions, people will get a similar job at a different company as you don't have to declare any sentences you have had. Tough to do in football as it is so widely covered in the media.

But before he comes back to football, he should focus on clearing his name. No matter the result he should be able to come back, but if he's so sure that he should be acquitted then that should be his priority.

 

[SkyBlueSid]

There is a lot of hypocrisy, but I'd rather take McCormick than Evans. McCormick admitted it and from all accounts is a decent man these days. He never set out to hurt anyone and made a massive mistake, almost unforgivable. We all make mistakes but if you admit to it, serve your punishment and move on to be the best person you can, who is anybody to stop that? Ched hasn't done that. He set out to rape someone, then denied it and still does to this day, without having cleared his name. It would also be a massive disrespect to the girl he raped if he played.

Sorry, I don't buy it. McCormick was responsible for the deaths of two young children. By setting off to drive on a motorway when drunk it is completely foreseeable that there were likely to be tragic consequences. It was almost as bad as what Lee Hughes did.

Evans probably didn't set out to hurt anyone, contrary to what you suggest. The victim was in a hotel room, drunk, with some other footballer, and hardly acted totally responsibly. Nobody really knows what happened in that room except that nobody died. This doesn't even come close to what McCormick did, yet he turns out for Plymouth without a lynch mob baying for his blood every week.


As I said, massive hypocrisy, fuelled by feminist activists.

 

[Jack Griffin]

I'd rather take no former criminals full stop!

My attitude has changed on this since the days of Marlon King when I did not raise any objection to his signing.

 

[Deleted member 5849]

My attitude has changed on this since the days of Marlon King when I did not raise any objection to his signing.

They were fun times

 

[Deleted member 5849]

Evans probably didn't set out to hurt anyone

...apart from wilfully making his way to a hotel room behind his girlfriend's back, where his friend had tipped him off was a semi-comotose girl?

 

[Deleted member 5849]

...like I said read the case files before you post an opinion.

A bit like the judge, jury and appeal judges you mean?

 

[SkyBlue_Bear83]

...like I said read the case files before you post an opinion. Certain elements regarding the victim were not aloud in evidence and other extenuating circumstances too. Just ask yourself why his mate was not guilty of rape and he was? She also had a history of promiscuity yet again the prosecution were able to get have this disallowed in court from being heard. I could go on but you must surely get my drift? Yes Grendel most cases are heard and the right decisions are made by the jurors after first being 'instructed' by the judge. Sometimes the arrival of judgement itself is 'unsafe' as I believe in this case to be. Like I said go read all about it not just a few media headlines.
As someone pointed out McCormack killed people yet he had no 'intention' is of no bearing. If I drank myself silly and knew I was going to drive then I knew I could very likely kill someone. I can't believe some of the things some of you are saying on here.

It was because the woman was seen in a brief conversation with Mcdonald on the street and agreed to go back in a taxi and into the hotel with Clayton Mcdonald, Evans turned up to the hotel room alone and let himself in with the key about 15 minutes later. It seems the woman didn't know Evans would be going back to the hotel room and claimed she couldn't remember anything which happened in the hotel room.

Whether you agree with it or not that seems to be the reason Mcdonald was found not guilty and not Evans.

He's already had two appeals rejected immediately after the verdict, unless he has new evidence he won't get it overturned.

 

[Deleted member 5849]

Whether you agree with it or not that seems to be the reason Mcdonald was found not guilty and not Evans.

Nobody ever suggests that maybe McDonald was lucky, as well. It appears poor old Chedwyn is always unlucky...

 

[Samo]

...like I said read the case files before you post an opinion. Certain elements regarding the victim were not aloud in evidence and other extenuating circumstances too. Just ask yourself why his mate was not guilty of rape and he was? She also had a history of promiscuity yet again the prosecution were able to get have this disallowed in court from being heard. I could go on but you must surely get my drift? Yes Grendel most cases are heard and the right decisions are made by the jurors after first being 'instructed' by the judge. Sometimes the arrival of judgement itself is 'unsafe' as I believe in this case to be. Like I said go read all about it not just a few media headlines.
As someone pointed out McCormack killed people yet he had no 'intention' is of no bearing. If I drank myself silly and knew I was going to drive then I knew I could very likely kill someone. I can't believe some of the things some of you are saying on here.

And I can't believe your suggestion that because she's been promiscuous it can't be rape! Are we back in the fucking 50's?