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  • Start date Sep 22, 2024
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Kubrick

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  • Oct 22, 2024
  • #71
shmmeee said:
What? Palmer started 21 games last season and was brought on in every other game he wasn’t injured for bar one.
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Kasey Palmer was substituted in 11 of those 21 games and got five assists in the Championship season. It's as embarrassing to claim Palmer fed Simms as it is to claim that Simms is out of form.
 
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Para1140

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  • Oct 22, 2024
  • #72
hinckley cov said:
Simms fed off palmer ? Palmer was never a regular starter , so I don’t think you can use that argument, I think we just have to accept that simms is just lazy and I can’t see him changing.
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Why is it always the black players that are described by some as lazy And the white players are just shit or having a bad game.
 
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Diogenes

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  • Oct 22, 2024
  • #73
Para1140 said:
Why is it always the black players that are described by some as lazy And the white players are just shit or having a bad game.
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It's clearly because the forum is full of white nationalists isn't it
 

Para1140

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  • Oct 22, 2024
  • #74
Seriously though the last few weeks Ive heard Simms and Wright called lazy.
last season people calling Palmer lazy. The season before that Norton Cuffy described as lazy not to mention hearing fans home and away shouting you lazy c**t to Wright and Simms.
Are they genuinly lazy or is it just a word used toward black players having a poor game as opposed to the other abuse used towards other players who some see as under performing ?
 
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TomRad85

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  • Oct 22, 2024
  • #75
Para1140 said:
Seriously though the last few weeks Ive heard Simms and Wright called lazy.
last season people calling Palmer lazy. The season before that Norton Cuffy described as lazy not to mention hearing fans home and away shouting you lazy c**t to Wright and Simms.
Are they genuinly lazy or is it just a word used toward black players having a poor game as opposed to the other abuse used towards other players who some see as under performing ?
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We've done it a million times, in some cases it's definitely slightly racist and frankly not true of most players. There a very few players who I've watched who I'd describe as 'lazy'.
Atm if someone were to describe Simms as lazy I wouldn't bat an eyelid though, he's playing like he can't be arsed. I do think he'll turn it around in time but I'd take him out of the team for a bit.
 
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coop

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  • Oct 22, 2024
  • #76
Simms is lazy Wright stands and watches so he is classed as lazy nothing to do with colour of there skin why do people always try and bring skin colour into everything.Does BTA gets classed as lazy no because he puts twice the amount of effort in as these two combined from what I have seen this season.
 
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TomRad85

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  • Oct 22, 2024
  • #77
coop said:
Simms is lazy Wright stands and watches so he is classed as lazy nothing to do with colour of there skin why do people always try and bring skin colour into everything.Does BTA gets classed as lazy no because he puts twice the amount of effort in as these two combined from what I have seen this season.
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Not sure what Wright stands and watches even means tbh. He's been our most threatening player again this season, although its a fucking low bar.
 
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ccfcchris

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  • Oct 22, 2024
  • #78
Simms problem for me is his total lack of aggression on the field.
 
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coop

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  • Oct 22, 2024
  • #79
TomRad85 said:
Not sure what Wright stands and watches even means tbh. He's been our most threatening player again this season, although its a fucking low bar.
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I mean I've seen him no end of times standing on the edge of the box watching us trying to defend and he just seems a bit miffed on what he should be doing.Agree he probably has done better than most this season,just hope they start all playing well at the same time and it finally clicks.If we lose tonight at Saturday I think MR will be gone sadly.
 
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coop

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  • Oct 22, 2024
  • #80
ccfcchris said:
Simms problem for me is his total lack of aggression on the field.
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Correct loved him knocking Doyle in the net,but then went and shook his hand to apologise didn't see Doyle doing that to Saka after his tackle. MR keeps saying we don't put a glove on our opponents and that to me is the problem we come across a very soft touch unlike when Fadz was here.We need a Doyle type player who can't put it about.Dont think Barry Bannan even got tackled when we played Sheffield Wednesday.
 
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shmmeee

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  • Oct 22, 2024
  • #81
Kubrick said:
Kasey Palmer was substituted in 11 of those 21 games and got five assists in the Championship season. It's as embarrassing to claim Palmer fed Simms as it is to claim that Simms is out of form.
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That’s fine. But to claim he wasn’t a starter when he started almost half our games is silly.
 

Kubrick

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  • Oct 22, 2024
  • #82
shmmeee said:
That’s fine. But to claim he wasn’t a starter when he started almost half our games is silly.
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I haven't claimed that. But it's a fact that Palmer assisted Simms once in an entire Championship season. We don't miss Palmer, and Simms won't get us out of trouble.
 

fernandopartridge

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  • Oct 22, 2024
  • #83
Wright is fine, one of the best forwards in the division and it is criminal how many games he hasn't started for us. His excellent finish on Saturday for the disallowed goal showed how good he is.

I hear the arguments that we don't make any chances for Simms, and that's true to an extent, but strikers need to create chances through movement. Even in Godden's poor runs of form he'd usually get on the end of a chance or have a shot on goal from inside the area, we just do not see that with Simms.
 
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Macca

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  • Oct 22, 2024
  • #84
We bought finishers with little technique then proceeded to play to their weaknesses.
 
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tommy hutch legend

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  • Oct 22, 2024
  • #85
fernandopartridge said:
Wright is fine, one of the best forwards in the division and it is criminal how many games he hasn't started for us. His excellent finish on Saturday for the disallowed goal showed how good he is.

I hear the arguments that we don't make any chances for Simms, and that's true to an extent, but strikers need to create chances through movement. Even in Godden's poor runs of form he'd usually get on the end of a chance or have a shot on goal from inside the area, we just do not see that with Simms.
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Simms has fluffed 4 or 5 good chances this season already so I don't put that as lack of chances created for him
 

fernandopartridge

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  • Oct 22, 2024
  • #86
tommy hutch legend said:
Simms has fluffed 4 or 5 good chances this season already so I don't put that as lack of chances created for him
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In recent games I can barely remember him having an effort towards goal. He's not really had gilt edged chances this season but has fluffed the better ones that have come his way. He is just not involved enough all round.
 

fernandopartridge

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  • Oct 22, 2024
  • #87
Worth looking at this, there has been a real loss of direction from Robins I think with time spent on the pitch:

Player Comparison: Ellis Simms vs. Brandon Thomas-Asante vs. Haji Wright | FBref.com

Player Comparison: Ellis Simms vs. Brandon Thomas-Asante vs. Haji Wright
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None of these 3 have been injured or suspended yet this season, yet nobody has played anymore than 66% of the minutes?

 
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tommy hutch legend

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  • Oct 22, 2024
  • #88
fernandopartridge said:
In recent games I can barely remember him having an effort towards goal. He's not really had gilt edged chances this season but has fluffed the better ones that have come his way. He is just not involved enough all round.
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Think that attempt at that header Saturday from a good cross sums him up really
 

Sick Boy

Super Moderator
  • Oct 22, 2024
  • #89
coop said:
I mean I've seen him no end of times standing on the edge of the box watching us trying to defend and he just seems a bit miffed on what he should be doing.Agree he probably has done better than most this season,just hope they start all playing well at the same time and it finally clicks.If we lose tonight at Saturday I think MR will be gone sadly.
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Yeah just like when he started the move for Thorp’s disallowed goal on the edge of our area. Anyone who thinks he’s lazy is just clueless.
 
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blunted

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  • Oct 22, 2024
  • #90
Para1140 said:
Seriously though the last few weeks Ive heard Simms and Wright called lazy.
last season people calling Palmer lazy. The season before that Norton Cuffy described as lazy not to mention hearing fans home and away shouting you lazy c**t to Wright and Simms.
Are they genuinly lazy or is it just a word used toward black players having a poor game as opposed to the other abuse used towards other players who some see as under performing ?
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Some geek did a survey on how often black players were called lazy compared with white players obviously balanced out for the number of each player in any given team. The result was over whelming that the black players suffered the accusation rather that their white counterparts. Clearly, there is an unconscious and on occasion deliberate bias against black players.
 

stupot07

Well-Known Member
  • Oct 22, 2024
  • #91
I can't ever remember anyone calling BNC lazy, I didn't think he was very good, but never lazy.

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OldBedrocker

Well-Known Member
  • Oct 22, 2024
  • #92
Wright frustrates the fuck out of me.
He is a big lad but is so weak on the ball 99% of the time and pulls out of challenges over and over.
 
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Skyblue Bangkok

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  • Oct 22, 2024
  • #93
OldBedrocker said:
Wright frustrates the fuck out of me.
He is a big lad but is so weak on the ball 99% of the time and pulls out of challenges over and over.
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He can look very good or at times shite .
 
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