bigfatronssba
Well-Known Member
In the interests of fairness, I wouldn't necessarily blame the loss of the car industry on the council. That was Tony Benn.
I 100% agree.
The personal attacks for posting about how badly the Labour Council have let the City down are a bit off. I love Coventry, hate what's happened to the City and the Club.
Maybe Philosorapter could explain how fox hunting Farage is any more a man of the people than Cameron or Miliband? Pointing to Brussels and shouting 'boo' at Johnny Foreigner will not do people in Coventry any good.
That's a quote directly from George Galloway!
No one is shouting boo at Johnny Foreigner. We need immigration, NHS and others would not survive without.
Some people want open door, some want Aussie style policies.
The EU isn't working - it's costing us £55m per day. If we came out out deficit situation would change instantly for the better and we could trade equally with the Commonwealth (India, Canda, Kenya). Hardly booing Johnny Foreigner.
Many confuse EU and EEA. EU is Laws and Regulation, EEA is to do with free trade. Stay in EEA (like Norway) out of EU (like Norway).
I could go on about the economics but cannot be bothered - look it all up on Google, Britain will be financially better off out if the EU according to most (but not all) independent credible sources.
Don't know about Fox-Hunting other than I don't personally agree with animal cruelty.
Cameron is false, Miliband is a millionaire socialist and Farage gets hammered every day in the press.
You did ask.
That's a quote directly from George Galloway!
No one is shouting boo at Johnny Foreigner. We need immigration, NHS and others would not survive without.
Some people want open door, some want Aussie style policies.
The EU isn't working - it's costing us £55m per day. If we came out out deficit situation would change instantly for the better and we could trade equally with the Commonwealth (India, Canda, Kenya). Hardly booing Johnny Foreigner.
Many confuse EU and EEA. EU is Laws and Regulation, EEA is to do with free trade. Stay in EEA (like Norway) out of EU (like Norway).
I could go on about the economics but cannot be bothered - look it all up on Google, Britain will be financially better off out if the EU according to most (but not all) independent credible sources.
Don't know about Fox-Hunting other than I don't personally agree with animal cruelty.
Cameron is false, Miliband is a millionaire socialist and Farage gets hammered every day in the press.
You did ask.
Let's leave the politics there
I still think it commercially and community minded to build a new stadium for CCFC in Holbrooks.
I think it will pay for itself and will be another asset for the City.
If the Council and CCFC have any sense they will sort it.
Let's leave the politics there
I still think it commercially and community minded to build a new stadium for CCFC in Holbrooks.
I think it will pay for itself and will be another asset for the City.
If the Council and CCFC have any sense they will sort it.
I was just getting going then! I love a good debate.
. Look up Clive Betts on Wikipedia.
I am not a UKIP supporter, but I get so angry when the "racist" card gets thrown at them just to try and stifle debate.
Normally if you ask one of these hysterical lefties what policies of UKIP's are racist they cant answer you and it takes the wind out of their sails.
Oh thought you would be a soft on UKIP type. You want evidence Bigfatronsatosser?
1.Its best mates with racist and far right parties in Europe - eg the Neo Nazi Northern League
2. It attracts racists - Gerard Batten, Geoffrey Bloom ,Lampett etc
3. It stirs up racial hatred in white working class areas "threatened" by immigration - classic NF/BNP tactic
4.They are xenophobes and Islamophobes who want to "tackle Islam"
Of course for people like you they are merely "addressing peoples concerns" FUCK OFF
Oh thought you would be a soft on UKIP type. You want evidence Bigfatronsatosser?
1.Its best mates with racist and far right parties in Europe - eg the Neo Nazi Northern League
2. It attracts racists - Gerard Batten, Geoffrey Bloom ,Lampett etc
3. It stirs up racial hatred in white working class areas "threatened" by immigration - classic NF/BNP tactic
4.They are xenophobes and Islamophobes who want to "tackle Islam"
Of course for people like you they are merely "addressing peoples concerns" FUCK OFF
Strange you haven't actually mentioned any of their policies there. Sort of proves my point.
Its ironic lecturing people on apparent blinkered views whilst trying to force your opinion down their throat.
You lose all semblence of arguement whilst being verbally abusive. I know I have made that mistake in the past on occasion.
1. Get the UK out of europe
2. close the border/send them back
If they HAVE any more policy I would love to here it because the 2 above are all they ever talk about.
What a shame you don't believe in Democracy.
1. Get the UK out of europe
2. close the border/send them back
If they HAVE any more policy I would love to here it because the 2 above are all they ever talk about.
Hence the title.
Half (or at least some of) the problem is the Labour Council. New Council, clean slate, fresh ideas - investment etc.
Labour Councils in Coventry have watched over:
Cathedral Lanes
The loss of the Car Industry
Stagnation of the canal basin development
No train station to Ricoh (when it was needed)
Now we have the sports centre debacles
So many other things
Personally I don't see why people on Coventry keep voting Labour, it's madness.
For whatever reason, UKIP in Coventry are second favourites at the bookies (ODDSCHECKER) (ahead of Libdems, ahead of Conservatives, ahead of Greens) for the next General Election - hence the comment only alternative to Labour.
I personally dislike Labour - you personally dislike UKIP.
I dislike racism, my Dad from India and all that.
I used to agree about UKIP - I had heard that UKIP are racist - somebody told me so I believed them. But then I thought I would look, because being prejudiced means "pre-judging" without finding out.
From the BBC today. Fairly left-wing biased but nonetheless:
http://m.bbc.co.uk/news/uk-politics-29642613
At the moment, Labour supports a policy of European Immigration over anyone else. Doctors from India must apply to get in, anyone from Europe is free to do so no matter their background or criminal record. UKIP want an Aussie/US/Canadian style system. Is that racist?
Immigrants are VITAL, but we need to be fair to everyone no matter their colour or background. At the moment, the system is - factually - EU open, rest of the world closed / screened.
Racist?
Carry on with having a pop chaps - don't care, really don't.
in fairness UKIP have suffered with their own vetting procedure to find suitable candidates for the party....let alone to be trusted with vetting who should come into the country. Sounds a bit elitist to me.
True, UKIP have attracted more than their fair share of unsuitable people and when they do the press go to town.
UKIP find it hard to find people who can stand being yelled "Racist!!!" "Fascist!!!" at by the uninformed / over opinionated.
The harsh, inevitable truth is that you either have:-
1)A total open door, open border, open to all, immigration policy.
2)A selective policy based on Origin (I.e. open to EU, selective outside)
3)A selective policy based on the Aussie / Canadian / US model
2) exists at present. Is that fair to those outside of the EU?
It should be trained border officials that vet who comes in, not politicians. Politicians should exercise the will of The People who vote for them - not promise one thing and fail to deliver.
I agree 100% I find it hard to believe a party that fanned the flames of political correctness, did things that were detrimental to community cohesion and made so many appalling decisions still get votes!! All I can say is people must not read much belyond the headlines.
Labour are superb at passing the buck and slagging off other peoples policies. A funny recent example was Trisrum Hunt on question time who stated how bad the government were doing as we owed lots more to Europe. What he forgot to mention until it was pointed out to him by a comedian on the panel, is we only owe more because our economy is preforming better than expected!!
As for CCFC I hope SISU give Ann Lucas the good shoeing in court she deserves Ann has sold this clubs sporting crown jewels (Ricoh) down the river to a totally money orientated capitalist franchise. Lets not forget this was a lady who claimed to the national press she had been watching |CCFC for 50 years!!! http://www.dailymail.co.uk/sport/fo...gn-Marlon-King-sparks-protest-female-fan.html really Ann? IF you loved the club would she have created a sporting rival on the doorstep of her "beloved" sky blues??
Or is this just more grandstanding and cynical opportunism from Lucas and her political party to look good and we were just a vehicle to ride on to get her there?
A football stadium near a Rugby Stadium is not such a lunatic plan.
1. Get the UK out of europe
2. close the border/send them back
If they HAVE any more policy I would love to here it because the 2 above are all they ever talk about.
I do believe in democracy, just not that keen on fascism with a false moustache. And I never mentioned racism, 'The Philosopher' did.
Geoffrey Robinson, labour MP let SISU in thinking he could somehow get his money back (how he earned that money is worth research).
[/QUOTEIam not sticking up for Geoffrey Robinson, far from it, but I think you will find he was against SISU's involvement from the outset and tried to bring someone else to the table, don't know who they were or whether they would have been a better bet than SISU and would probably have suited Robinson better, but to reiterate to my knowledge Geoffrey Robnson didn't want SISU
So you agree with democracy so long as you personally agree with the particular party?
You cant just stifle debate like that. Its very undemocratic and also very childish.
That is of course where it all falls apart.
Who is it that has this dosh anyway.
I expressed an opinion on a party I do not favour, what is wrong with that? No debate was stifled. Sounds to me like you are a little bit ashamed of being 'UKIP curious'? And so you should be in my opinion. Oaf.
And in that one sentence you lose all credibility.
It is revealing that it's that sentence you took issue with. Are you UKIP curious Ron? But you are not a racist because you are friends with the bloke in the corner shop right? You have nothing against jonny foreigner as long they stop taking our jobs right? Yeah, I think I know the type.
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