Grendel
Well-Known Member
Are these the same people who gave the your "fitness test"'exclusive?
Or is it just another lie?
I have met a few fans who stopped going under SISU control and they said they would not go while SISU are in control. I will ask the question "Do you want SISU gone first or a return to the RICOH first" and see what answer is the most popular.
You don't know the 10,000 stopped going because SISU took over? You can't answer for them can you?
There could be a variety of reasons, it is the same as the statements that say 10,000 fans who don't go to Sixfields don't go because of principles.
Have you done a poll or just made a statement? Does that mean that the huge gates we had in the 40's etc stopped coming because they weren't happy with the owners? Could things like credit crunch, lack of work, Sky TV etc have made any difference?
So from you meeting a few fans you have come to the conclusion that is why 10,000 stopped going?
I don't argue some won't go until they are gone, but I reckon most would come back if we are back in Cov, and even more if we are back at the Ricoh.
So Southampton, derby, Brighton etc. only saw increased attendance for 3 games?
The tourist thing is interesting. People on here would have you believe everyone in Coventry loves it. A man who lives in a high rise in wood end could lose his job and his family in one day but would still go to bed content that the council are stopping a nasty wasty hedge fund from stealing the Ricoh. That knowledge alone means contentment for the citizens of our fair city.
Lol !!
You are a ridiculous !!
Is that wood end man you ???
Are these the same people who gave the your "fitness test"'exclusive?
Or is it just another lie?
You accuse someone of being ridiculous, yet you start every post with Lol!!
You're a joke mate.
Lmfao !!
Did you read his post obviously you believe in fairy tales.....
Is this the best you can say but you will under stand after he has gone and it will show that use of the brain can work it out to understand the "fitness test"
I meet a lot of fans and supporters and before the move to sixfields the feed back was not a lot were going to sixfields, which proved right. I am again asking if Fans/Supporters are going to sixfields or away games. The answers so far have been much the same as last year. In fact attitude to SISU has seemed to harden and a few have said they will start going to away games. It will be interesting to see how every one feels after June the 10th
Is this the best you can say but you will under stand after he has gone and it will show that use of the brain can work it out to understand the "fitness test"
Covmark does Grendel tuck you into bed each night and read you fairy tales ???
I am in A and E I laughed do much at that witty riposte I cracked a rib.
The one factor you have to include is the impact initially of a new stadium - look at the average rise that gives and then factor that out.
Your prior to the ricoh crowds show the true average. Decline started after season one at the new ground. Other than 2008 to 2009 the decline back to pre Ricoh levels is incredibly consistent year on year.
I have no doubt that attendances will still be crap at Sixfields.
We were talking about people attending under SISU control though, not at sixfields
Covmark does Grendel tuck you into bed each night and read you fairy tales ???
So Southampton, derby, Brighton etc. only saw increased attendance for 3 games?
The tourist thing is interesting. People on here would have you believe everyone in Coventry loves it. A man who lives in a high rise in wood end could lose his job and his family in one day but would still go to bed content that the council are stopping a nasty wasty hedge fund from stealing the Ricoh. That knowledge alone means contentment for the citizens of our fair city.
Chiefdave has done the Southampton ones, Derby have always been a well supported club and Brighton have done a lot better lately. I think you are wrong in using the Ricoh as a pull factor and I'm sure if you asked Southampton, Derby or Brighton fans they would say that it wasn't the metal frames or concrete foundations that brought them back. As someone else said, with football fans (we are a fickle bunch) it is what goes on on the green rectangle which is the pulling power for any football team (well most anyway). Sometimes I do wonder if you are a true football fan because sometimes the things you say aren't quite what a fan would say or what one would think. It seems the case that you like to entice some posters on here into arguments just so you can pull up quotes from long ago for whatever reason.
Frankly that is so absurd i am speechless. The crap that some posters come up with must be challenged.
The stadium had NO effect? We had 25,000 versus Colchester!
Fucking hell
No i said it probably had an affect for 3 games, are you really trying to say that fans would rather go and look at a new stadium for a whole season? surely that has to the most boring thing in the world does stadium spotting in the same stadium. We were promised the land of milk and honey in the new stadium but sadly we got a bitter lemon in Sisu and look what happened. So just to be sure are you saying a new stadium would bring the fans back in their thousands, because I would like to know if you think that a new stadium built a few miles outside the city boundary would still have us flocking back? Because from what I can gather from what you are saying, you say we will.
3 games? Sorry this is absurd. Why then were the attendances all higher at the Ricoh than highfiekd road in the championship bar the last season there?
Why?
As I said we were promised a new beginning but to say that fans go because we are in a new stadium is the absurd suggestion. Again then I'll ask my question, do you think that attendances will go through the roof again at a new stadium 7 miles outside the city boundary?
We performed no better at the start and mcginnity etc were still in charge.
Richardson always said the new stadium would swell grounds by 25% and quoted stadiums as examples of this. Its frankly bonkers to suggest the crowds 2 or 3 years (not games) into the Ricoh against the likes of Scunthorpe and Colchester would have been matched at highfiekd road.
I don't even see what the other comment you've made is to do with anything. What's 7 miles to do with anything?
I hate to plagiarise MMM but frankly we are done here.
Richardson always said the new stadium would swell grounds by 25% and quoted stadiums as examples of this. Its frankly bonkers to suggest the crowds 2 or 3 years (not games) into the Ricoh against the likes of Scunthorpe and Colchester would have been matched at highfiekd road.
You said that attendances increase when teams get new stadiums, I simply asked you if Sisu/Otium built a new stadium a few miles outside the city boundary (not the centre) then do you still stand by your predictions that attendances would increase from what they were at the Ricoh? Simple question really.
The one factor you have to include is the impact initially of a new stadium - look at the average rise that gives and then factor that out.
Your prior to the ricoh crowds show the true average. Decline started after season one at the new ground. Other than 2008 to 2009 the decline back to pre Ricoh levels is incredibly consistent year on year.
Interestingly we have all missed the point the club were expecting the rebate of 400k from overcharging.
Have we? Is that a different rebate to the one the council paid to SISU that has been discussed at length on here? Worth point out the rent was owed to ACL and the rebate due from the council so at no point did we owe £200K net. If you have a £1000 bill from N Power but BT owe you £500 you don't say you only owe N Power £500 do you?!
Denying the plan was ever to distress ACL to get the stadium “on the cheap”, she said: “The council owns the freehold and has a right of re-entry. So in the event of ACL going bust they could take the lease over anyway and continue to run the stadium. This also means that if somebody went in to buy ACL, the council had the right to refuse the assignment, whoever that buyer was.
“I am focussing on the future and not looking back.”
She is irritated by any impression that no rent at all was paid since last April, when the club began withdrawing the full £100,000-a-month payment, claiming it was unfairly above market rate.
Ms Seppala said the club had continued to pay matchday costs, adding: “Broadly speaking, the council still owes the club £400,000 with a rates rebate. The club owed net rent of £600,000. The result is that we owed £200,000 net.
“We didn’t want to distress ACL, but the club couldn’t afford to pay the rent, especially given the Financial Fair Play rules (which limits spending on the team to 60pc of revenue). We wanted to do a deal (with the council and ACL). We wanted to go together to Yorkshire Bank (to buy out ACL’s “mortgage” for cheaper than the £14million the council paid in January).
“Then, at the end of November, we were told the council wouldn’t approve the deal over the 50 per cent Higgs share.”
Interestingly we have all missed the point the club were expecting the rebate of 400k from overcharging and I think joy actually explains it all rather well with these few quotes. I've never really bought the whole distress ACL bit as I've always thought even if ACL go bust as joy says the council will decide what to do as they own the freehold so makes no difference to sisu anyway.
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