Sisu and the £1m? (1 Viewer)

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letsallsingtogether

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They Could put it in the bank and then use it for part payment on the rent of the new shed when they build it...
 

@richh87

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No but I think that they now have sufficient funds ti ride the NOPM campaign by the stay away fans. It's pretty futile now

You speak of the 'stay away fans' as if they are the minority. They aren't.

The people going to Sixfields are letting everyone down. This is SISU moving a club so that they can blackmail a Council into handing over the Ricoh.

F*** that. You may not, but most of us, i.e the 'stay away fans' (90%) have morals, and know that this is not something we should support by handing over wads of cash to an immorally-run hedge fund.

I'm really proud of those who have stayed away - I'm glad so many people have morals. Anyone who can't see how awful SISU are is either on a wind-up or just has the same morals as they do.

Relegation, suing fans, charities and councils, and taking the club to Northampton, even though it would make more financial sense to accept the 400k rent offer at the Ricoh, is disgusting - there's no two ways about it.


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wingy

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You speak of the 'stay away fans' as if they are the minority. They aren't.

The people going to Sixfields are letting everyone down. This is SISU moving a club so that they can blackmail a Council into handing over the Ricoh.

F*** that. You may not, but most of us, i.e the 'stay away fans' (90%) have morals, and know that this is not something we should support by handing over wads of cash to an immorally-run hedge fund.

I'm really proud of those who have stayed away - I'm glad so many people have morals. Anyone who can't see how awful SISU are is either on a wind-up or just has the same morals as they do.

Relegation, suing fans, charities and councils, and taking the club to Northampton, even though it would make more financial sense to accept the 400k rent offer at the Ricoh, is disgusting - there's no two ways about it.


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I agree with most of that rich,but there IS no need to denigrate those that go.
 
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Jack Griffin

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No but I think that they now have sufficient funds ti ride the NOPM campaign by the stay away fans. It's pretty futile now

No it isn't, but CCFC won't be back in or near Coventry for 4 or 5 years as a minimum whatever.

I won't be going to 'home' matches in Northampton ever.
 
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letsallsingtogether

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so hopefully they get a big FA Cup fixture every season and sell their best player for £750,000 and they can stay afloat without any fans.

Fuck me why didn't they think of this before so they won't need a ground now.:thinking about:

No but I think that they now have sufficient funds ti ride the NOPM campaign by the stay away fans. It's pretty futile now
 

mark82

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You speak of the 'stay away fans' as if they are the minority. They aren't.

The people going to Sixfields are letting everyone down. This is SISU moving a club so that they can blackmail a Council into handing over the Ricoh.

F*** that. You may not, but most of us, i.e the 'stay away fans' (90%) have morals, and know that this is not something we should support by handing over wads of cash to an immorally-run hedge fund.

I'm really proud of those who have stayed away - I'm glad so many people have morals. Anyone who can't see how awful SISU are is either on a wind-up or just has the same morals as they do.

Relegation, suing fans, charities and councils, and taking the club to Northampton, even though it would make more financial sense to accept the 400k rent offer at the Ricoh, is disgusting - there's no two ways about it.


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People are happy to hand over wads of cash when we play Arsenal. Need to make up our minds here whether it is about money or not.
 

wingy

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People are happy to hand over wads of cash when we play Arsenal. Need to make up our minds here whether it is about money or not.

On the two occassions questions are raised re;- attending questionable games in some eyes, they just happen to coincide with the greatest/largest exposure to our problem .I think the NOPM or any other individual stance re attendance can live with that.
 

Broken Hearted Sky Blue

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On the two occassions questions are raised re;- attending questionable games in some eyes, they just happen to coincide with the greatest/largest exposure to our problem .I think the NOPM or any other individual stance re attendance can live with that.

I agree Wingy however some people can't wonder why:thinking about:
 

mark82

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On the two occassions questions are raised re;- attending questionable games in some eyes, they just happen to coincide with the greatest/largest exposure to our problem .I think the NOPM or any other individual stance re attendance can live with that.

Fair point. I don't attend myself (although not following NOPM) just don't like the name calling of those that do.
 

ecky

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A b category academy costs c£1m so we will be contributing another £100k, plus VAT, medical, insurance, upkeep of Ryton, agent fees, scout networks, etc. we will also be paying off thorn, possibly still Boothroyd & players we've bombed out, plus all the non football staff wages, etc. losses will be a lot higher than £750k even without paying back loan providers


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so they are cutting off their nose to spite their face?

their fault for playing at northampton and no one elses......but hey like fisher said they have deep pockets and the really dont need 15-20,000 fans after all?
 

mark82

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I agree Wingy however some people can't wonder why:thinking about:

No, I just think it is hypocritical slating those that go to Sixfields when these same people turn up at Arsenal, Barnsley (which is ny only game of the year so far), MK Done, etc. Just think that there is a lot of cheap talk by people who think they are better but then change their stance when a big game comes around. Every week at sixfields is a chance to raise publicity.

Imagine this:- a single game we fill sixfields and have twice as many outside waiting to get in. They could then congregate on the hill. Would that not send a message? Would send an even bigger message if we did it every week. If we took 15k to a 7k capacity ground they would have to look at other options like moving back to the Ricoh.

But, everyone would much sooner name call.
 

mark82

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so they are cutting off their nose to spite their face?

their fault for playing at northampton and no one elses......but hey like fisher said they have deep pockets and the really dont need 15-20,000 fans after all?

Please provide a link to where he said that. Don't remember it.
 

ecky

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He said they had budgeted for the next 3 years at sixfields with low gates..this being the case they obviously dont need 15-20,000 that the ricoh would get if they were back there, but your a sisu lover and i imagine you get a buzz from watching gates of 1500-2000 at sixfields?
 

Rusty Trombone

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No, I just think it is hypocritical slating those that go to Sixfields when these same people turn up at Arsenal, Barnsley (which is ny only game of the year so far), MK Done, etc. Just think that there is a lot of cheap talk by people who think they are better but then change their stance when a big game comes around. Every week at sixfields is a chance to raise publicity.

Imagine this:- a single game we fill sixfields and have twice as many outside waiting to get in. They could then congregate on the hill. Would that not send a message? Would send an even bigger message if we did it every week. If we took 15k to a 7k capacity ground they would have to look at other options like moving back to the Ricoh.

But, everyone would much sooner name call.

Which people who have slated those who go to Northampton went to Arsenal? I think there is a lot of talk about hypocrites, but little evidence.
 

Broken Hearted Sky Blue

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No, I just think it is hypocritical slating those that go to Sixfields when these same people turn up at Arsenal, Barnsley (which is ny only game of the year so far), MK Done, etc. Just think that there is a lot of cheap talk by people who think they are better but then change their stance when a big game comes around. Every week at sixfields is a chance to raise publicity.

Imagine this:- a single game we fill sixfields and have twice as many outside waiting to get in. They could then congregate on the hill. Would that not send a message? Would send an even bigger message if we did it every week. If we took 15k to a 7k capacity ground they would have to look at other options like moving back to the Ricoh.

But, everyone would much sooner name call.

Where is the name calling? Oh yes on here none at the ground. Why dont we have just 15000 on the hill thats a far bigger message than filling the ground? But that would be devisive wouldn't it? If we follow your idea Sisu would buy Cardoza out extend Sixfields and never come back because you would be able to get 15000 in the ground
 

mark82

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He said they had budgeted for the next 3 years at sixfields with low gates..this being the case they obviously dont need 15-20,000 that the ricoh would get if they were back there, but your a sisu lover and i imagine you get a buzz from watching gates of 1500-2000 at sixfields?

Can you read? I am clearly not a sisu lover. I don't like people telling half truths. It doesn't help our situation and makes you no better than them.
 

mark82

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Where is the name calling? Oh yes on here none at the ground. Why dont we have just 15000 on the hill thats a far bigger message than filling the ground? But that would be devisive wouldn't it? If we follow your idea Sisu would buy Cardoza out extend Sixfields and never come back because you would be able to get 15000 in the ground

You wouldn't get 15000 on the hill.

7k in stadium rest outside would show that they are missing out on something. People are willing to do it when we play Arsenal so why not a home game(s). NOPM didn't work and has been more or less abandoned so why not try a different approach. People would see that we want to watch our team but are not being provided the facility to do so.
 

Rusty Trombone

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You wouldn't get 15000 on the hill.

7k in stadium rest outside would show that they are missing out on something. People are willing to do it when we play Arsenal so why not a home game(s). NOPM didn't work and has been more or less abandoned so why not try a different approach. People would see that we want to watch our team but are not being provided the facility to do so.

NOPM isn't a short term approach, whether it works or not won't be known until nearer the end of this charade. I also don't know of anyone who has abandoned it, obviously not everyone took this stand in the first place so saying things like it's over because lots went to Arsenal etc proves nothing in respect of NOPM.

Unless you know of loads of people of course, but they don't seem to post on here.
 

mark82

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NOPM isn't a short term approach, whether it works or not won't be known until nearer the end of this charade. I also don't know of anyone who has abandoned it, obviously not everyone took this stand in the first place so saying things like it's over because lots went to Arsenal etc proves nothing in respect of NOPM.

Unless you know of loads of people of course, but they don't seem to post on here.

Sou you'd rather just keep doing something that isn't working in the hope that it one day does work or wipes the club out. Then we can all start again in the lower reaches of non league. I'm sorry, but that doesn't sound great to me.

Why is it different going to the Arsenal game than going to Sixfields anyway?
 

Rusty Trombone

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Sou you'd rather just keep doing something that isn't working in the hope that it one day does work or wipes the club out. Then we can all start again in the lower reaches of non league. I'm sorry, but that doesn't sound great to me.

Why is it different going to the Arsenal game than going to Sixfields anyway?

You don't seem to understand when I say it's not a short term approach, you can't possibly know yet whether it's working or not. It's like the first hour of a Test Match when your missus asks who's winning.

I do know that every business needs income, depriving them of it cannot be helping them. So I hope this approach gets rid of SISU, and I'll take a chance on the club surviving. It doesn't sound great to anyone, but I think it's the least worse approach.

I don't know what your last question is about, I don't see any difference.
 
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Tonylinc

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The reality is that none of us knows whether NOPM is working or not. Shitzu continue to fund the club as that is all that they can do in order to protect their investment.
 

Rusty Trombone

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The reality is that none of us knows whether NOPM is working or not. Shitzu continue to fund the club as that is all that they can do in order to protect their investment.

That's right, and hopefully at some point their investors will say enough is enough. I don't see that is then a great leap to the notion that the more money they get from supporters etc, the longer it will go on.
 

Astute

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Sou you'd rather just keep doing something that isn't working in the hope that it one day does work or wipes the club out. Then we can all start again in the lower reaches of non league. I'm sorry, but that doesn't sound great to me.

Sounds like a SISU plan.
 
You wouldn't get 15000 on the hill.

7k in stadium rest outside would show that they are missing out on something. People are willing to do it when we play Arsenal so why not a home game(s). NOPM didn't work and has been more or less abandoned so why not try a different approach. People would see that we want to watch our team but are not being provided the facility to do so.
What makes you think NOPM is not working and has been abandoned, with gates of 2,000 I think it is still on and is working.
 
Sou you'd rather just keep doing something that isn't working in the hope that it one day does work or wipes the club out. Then we can all start again in the lower reaches of non league. I'm sorry, but that doesn't sound great to me.

Why is it different going to the Arsenal game than going to Sixfields anyway?

Sixfields is a rubbish ground compared to the Emirates.
 
No, I just think it is hypocritical slating those that go to Sixfields when these same people turn up at Arsenal, Barnsley (which is ny only game of the year so far), MK Done, etc. Just think that there is a lot of cheap talk by people who think they are better but then change their stance when a big game comes around. Every week at sixfields is a chance to raise publicity.

Imagine this:- a single game we fill sixfields and have twice as many outside waiting to get in. They could then congregate on the hill. Would that not send a message? Would send an even bigger message if we did it every week. If we took 15k to a 7k capacity ground they would have to look at other options like moving back to the Ricoh.

But, everyone would much sooner name call.

You are off your head, leave the drugs alone.
 

mark82

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What makes you think NOPM is not working and has been abandoned, with gates of 2,000 I think it is still on and is working.

I think that gates are still low, and that's good. I didn't mean the majority were not committed to the boycott of sixfields (rather than NOPM). What I mean is that it isn't going to bother sisu too much. They budgeted for 3000 crowds. 2000 won't be that different for them financially. I just think a different approach is needed. Everyone seems stuck on one idea. I understand that, I do. And I supported it to start with if you look back to the summer. Just seeing the comments about sisu not spending money during the transfer window makes me suspect people don't really fully understand the consequences of the actions taken.

Basically, there are other approaches but the majority, on here at least, are unwilling to look at what is best for the long term future of the club as they are stuck in their view. I'm not saying you need to blame anyone else. Blame sisu. They are mostly to blame here. Most acknowledge that. But following what everyone else does isn't necessarily the right course of action. People are too set in their ways.

To be honest. I'm a bit sick of folk on here jumping on anyone who sways slightly from their opinion - look at the way people were trying to hound Grendal, a fellow fan, off this board last week because he differed in opinion slightly (he is a boycotter after all). It just shows the level of intelligence of some that they resort to effectively bullying. We all need to work together a bit better, and that includes with people on other boards like gmk. I'm sure I'll be called names just for suggesting this (as I was earlier).
 

Astute

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Hounded Grendull?

Try again. He follows me around like a bad smell. Comes out with statements he knows are false but tries to jump on most of the threads I comment on. It was only a couple of days ago.....yesterday if you still think it is Saturday. ....that I said that I didn't think something was true. He jumped straight in accusing me of saying it was true and wanted the proof.

Yes I agree that he doesn't go to Northampton, but IIRC he also posted why recently. And it was nothing to do with not wanting to go there. He used to be a good poster. These days he is more like a lurker and a WUM. If he stopped having a go at me all the time I would leave him alone. I have never let anyone take the piss out of me and I am not going to start now.

It was me who started the poll on him. It was when he said about having one. He was going on about having a poll and either the other person or himself should leave depending on the result. I don't want him to leave. It would be good if he grew up though.
 
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