italiahorse
Well-Known Member
No, just turned up the day and the doors were closed.
Oh, did you buy a ticket to go watch the shop staff?
SISU have ballsed up big time in their PR ,they could have gone around this much better in my opinion...
No, just turned up the day and the doors were closed.
Just out of idle curiosity what legal education do you have if you don't mind me asking? Only reason I do ask is so I know whether or not you speak with any experience or training in law.Refusing Sisu’s disclosure application, the judge said it was unheard of for such an order to be made prior to permission for a judicial review being granted.
Sisu already had enough information in its grasp to enable it to put forward “a respectable case” on most of the issues, and requiring the council to make further disclosures could not be described as “necessary”.
The full hearing of Sisu’s application for permission to mount a full challenge to the loan will take place at the High Court in the near future.
That's the part you want to try and understand, the council are in for a rocky time!! the disclosures will be ordered once the full hearing starts in my opinion, Sisu are fully entitled to the papers in my opinion. The Judge is not wrong in his opinion but it is still silly power games! the judge cant order disclosures at this particular stage. Im personally looking forward to seeing the council being absolutely slaughtered by Sisu! bout time CCC were put in their place
Refusing Sisu’s disclosure application, the judge said it was unheard of for such an order to be made prior to permission for a judicial review being granted.
Sisu already had enough information in its grasp to enable it to put forward “a respectable case” on most of the issues, and requiring the council to make further disclosures could not be described as “necessary”.
The full hearing of Sisu’s application for permission to mount a full challenge to the loan will take place at the High Court in the near future.
That's the part you want to try and understand, the council are in for a rocky time!! the disclosures will be ordered once the full hearing starts in my opinion, Sisu are fully entitled to the papers in my opinion. The Judge is not wrong in his opinion but it is still silly power games! the judge cant order disclosures at this particular stage. Im personally looking forward to seeing the council being absolutely slaughtered by Sisu! bout time CCC were put in their place
If this is the case why did the lawyer acting for SISU apply for them then as surely that's just waste of the court's time and money for not to mention SISU.sixfieldsfan said:the judge cant order disclosures at this particular stage.
Refusing Sisu’s disclosure application, the judge said it was unheard of for such an order to be made prior to permission for a judicial review being granted.
Sisu already had enough information in its grasp to enable it to put forward “a respectable case” on most of the issues, and requiring the council to make further disclosures could not be described as “necessary”.
The full hearing of Sisu’s application for permission to mount a full challenge to the loan will take place at the High Court in the near future.
That's the part you want to try and understand, the council are in for a rocky time!! the disclosures will be ordered once the full hearing starts in my opinion, Sisu are fully entitled to the papers in my opinion. The Judge is not wrong in his opinion but it is still silly power games! the judge cant order disclosures at this particular stage. Im personally looking forward to seeing the council being absolutely slaughtered by Sisu! bout time CCC were put in their place
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When you say hearing do you mean the hearing regarding the Application Appeal for the Judicial review or the actual Judicial review itself? Because as a layman with some media law education it seems to me that the application appeal will now be made without access to these documents. I'm thinking a Judge at the appeal may only say yes SISU can have access to those documents (given what was said today) once they have successfully argued that there is a need for a Judicial review? If so then the first hurdle is to get the appeal successfully out of the way before worrying about the full hearing.
Also you say
If this is the case why did the lawyer acting for SISU apply for them then as surely that's just waste of the court's time and SISU's money.
Refusing Sisu’s disclosure application, the judge said it was unheard of for such an order to be made prior to permission for a judicial review being granted.
Sisu already had enough information in its grasp to enable it to put forward “a respectable case” on most of the issues, and requiring the council to make further disclosures could not be described as “necessary”.
The full hearing of Sisu’s application for permission to mount a full challenge to the loan will take place at the High Court in the near future.
That's the part you want to try and understand, the council are in for a rocky time!! the disclosures will be ordered once the full hearing starts in my opinion, Sisu are fully entitled to the papers in my opinion. The Judge is not wrong in his opinion but it is still silly power games! the judge cant order disclosures at this particular stage. Im personally looking forward to seeing the council being absolutely slaughtered by Sisu! bout time CCC were put in their place
This is why I have asked if the other poster can clarify what legal experience/training/education they have. They may have a Phd in Law from somewhere prestigious for all we know.WTF do you know anyway? We shall eventually see that it's very little!
Refusing Sisu’s disclosure application, the judge said it was unheard of for such an order to be made prior to permission for a judicial review being granted.
Sisu already had enough information in its grasp to enable it to put forward “a respectable case” on most of the issues, and requiring the council to make further disclosures could not be described as “necessary”.
The full hearing of Sisu’s application for permission to mount a full challenge to the loan will take place at the High Court in the near future.
That's the part you want to try and understand, the council are in for a rocky time!! the disclosures will be ordered once the full hearing starts in my opinion, Sisu are fully entitled to the papers in my opinion. The Judge is not wrong in his opinion but it is still silly power games! the judge cant order disclosures at this particular stage. Im personally looking forward to seeing the council being absolutely slaughtered by Sisu! bout time CCC were put in their place
Refusing Sisu’s disclosure application, the judge said it was unheard of for such an order to be made prior to permission for a judicial review being granted.
Sisu already had enough information in its grasp to enable it to put forward “a respectable case” on most of the issues, and requiring the council to make further disclosures could not be described as “necessary”.
The full hearing of Sisu’s application for permission to mount a full challenge to the loan will take place at the High Court in the near future.
That's the part you want to try and understand, the council are in for a rocky time!! the disclosures will be ordered once the full hearing starts in my opinion, Sisu are fully entitled to the papers in my opinion. The Judge is not wrong in his opinion but it is still silly power games! the judge cant order disclosures at this particular stage. Im personally looking forward to seeing the council being absolutely slaughtered by Sisu! bout time CCC were put in their place
Refusing Sisu’s disclosure application, the judge said it was unheard of for such an order to be made prior to permission for a judicial review being granted.
Sisu already had enough information in its grasp to enable it to put forward “a respectable case” on most of the issues, and requiring the council to make further disclosures could not be described as “necessary”.
The full hearing of Sisu’s application for permission to mount a full challenge to the loan will take place at the High Court in the near future.
That's the part you want to try and understand, the council are in for a rocky time!! the disclosures will be ordered once the full hearing starts in my opinion, Sisu are fully entitled to the papers in my opinion. The Judge is not wrong in his opinion but it is still silly power games! the judge cant order disclosures at this particular stage. Im personally looking forward to seeing the council being absolutely slaughtered by Sisu! bout time CCC were put in their place
Just out of idle curiosity what legal education do you have if you don't mind me asking? Only reason I do ask is so I know whether or not you speak with any experience or training in law.
To be honest, I think in terms of getting the JR done and dusted more quickly, this is probably is good news. SISU's case, which seemed fairly weak from the off, is now even weaker.
To me this makes it more likely that the whole thing will get chucked out on 28th November.
If SISU wanted a bit of good PR, for once, they could drop it all now on the grounds of showing good will for the ongoing negotiations. But I doubt they will.
The figures I dug up the other day showed that about 85% of of JR's fall at the first hurdle, as SISU's did. Of the ones that re-apply, as SISU have, an even higher percentage get chucked out again.
http://www.official-documents.gov.uk/document/cm86/8611/8611.pdf
The odds of SISU winning this, or even being able to continue with the case are pretty small. (13/2 based on the raw numbers above, I reckon; so in true bookie fashion, I'll offer 5/1)
Edit: Should say that I think the true odds are a lot longer, given how dismissive of the case the first judge was. I'd want 100/1 before I stuck any money on SISU winning this.
sixfieldsfan said:The Judge is not wrong in his opinion but it is still silly power games! the judge cant order disclosures at this particular stage.
Wouldn't want to be the lawyer who had to explain that one to the clients along with the £7k costs for the other side.So if the judge can't order disclosures at this particular stage, as you explain - why did SISU make the application?
Got a feeling fp that was always going to be the case....... if they get the freehold then there is no right to income so next stage is to remove ACL any bets that wont involve lots of expensive legal actions? If they dont get the freehold then I am sure there will be other legal challenges ......
Incidentally, just the cost of even applying for a Judicial Review will not be insignificant, and having had it rejected, SISU are currently liable for this, another reason for the appeal.
My understanding is that costs are likely to be at least £200k-£250k.
Actually it definitely cost SISU money having re-read the article as they have been ordered to pay costs of £7k. Oops again!
Why was the QC for sisu talking about the clubs drop in income following relegation?
I fail to see what that has to do with the case at all.
Refusing Sisu’s disclosure application, the judge said it was unheard of for such an order to be made prior to permission for a judicial review being granted.
Sisu already had enough information in its grasp to enable it to put forward “a respectable case” on most of the issues, and requiring the council to make further disclosures could not be described as “necessary”.
The full hearing of Sisu’s application for permission to mount a full challenge to the loan will take place at the High Court in the near future.
That's the part you want to try and understand, the council are in for a rocky time!! the disclosures will be ordered once the full hearing starts in my opinion, Sisu are fully entitled to the papers in my opinion. The Judge is not wrong in his opinion but it is still silly power games! the judge cant order disclosures at this particular stage. Im personally looking forward to seeing the council being absolutely slaughtered by Sisu! bout time CCC were put in their place
Comical AliRefusing Sisu’s disclosure application, the judge said it was unheard of for such an order to be made prior to permission for a judicial review being granted.
Sisu already had enough information in its grasp to enable it to put forward “a respectable case” on most of the issues, and requiring the council to make further disclosures could not be described as “necessary”.
The full hearing of Sisu’s application for permission to mount a full challenge to the loan will take place at the High Court in the near future.
That's the part you want to try and understand, the council are in for a rocky time!! the disclosures will be ordered once the full hearing starts in my opinion, Sisu are fully entitled to the papers in my opinion. The Judge is not wrong in his opinion but it is still silly power games! the judge cant order disclosures at this particular stage. Im personally looking forward to seeing the council being absolutely slaughtered by Sisu! bout time CCC were put in their place
Ah yes newbie who loves sisu
Unlike the oldi who worships ACL.
Good evening GrendelAh yes newbie who loves sisu
Unlike the oldi who worships ACL.
Good evening Grendel
another yawn from the obvious one (Grendel)
This woman's a frickin looney tune.......surely her counsel must tell her she has no chance with all of these court cases she keeps bringing. She wastes money with the best of em (although why worry when its not your own?)
And we really want her to own the stadium?
not me, thanks.
Except she wins the majority of cases she takes to court. It is the way Sisu do business.
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