The sad thing is there will be people dying for the good run to come to an end to be able to take advantage of it.
I'm not arguing that.
I'm arguing the comment that "people are dying for the good run to come to an end".
I think if you look at those 3 objectives...Our owners have always been dreadful and Vichai was the exception rather than the rule. The key is a good manager, investing in youth and a bit of luck. We're doing ok in spite of them and not because of them, but since we can't change them our energy is better served in forgetting about them, support the team and they'll go when they're ready. They wont be here forever and if they wont listen to all of the protests and off field stuff that's gone on over the past few years then they certainly wont drop the court issues out of a sense of doing the right thing. Ruthless business people and there will be an end to this saga at some point - ride the wave!
Still waiting to find out why a rent increase is justified? Our usage of the stadium wont increase. So using the 250k figure someone has mentioned, what's the justification for a 150% increase? Sisu are taking the council to court not wasps. They also claim legal expenses from sisu when they lose. I can totally understand match day costs going up with inflation etc. I could understand a small increase in rent but 150%?! Sisu and everyone else screw the club over where possible so why our fans are championing a rent increase is beyond me. Sisu won't pay the extra, ccfc will.
100% they do read this and other forums.
Even know who some of us are.
Whether they care is another matter.
Looking back - wouldn’t a rent increase suit SISU? Didn’t Ann Lucas say there were measures in place to make sure the football club and Rugby club don’t suffer? Or have I made thT up?
Wouldn't hiring bars and function rooms be a matchday cost rather than rent though?
Yup, Eastwood repeated the assurances at a SBT meeting but I can't remember exactly what he said.In any case i dont think anything that Lucas said was actually legally binding on Wasps. Just political double speak i think
the figures are for room rent so no NIck. The cost of staffing, utilities etc would
No not at all. I’m just thinking what measures there are or does that give grounds for SISU believing in JR3 - or the civil suits?perhaps why Wasps are saying a "commercial rent" so CCFC are paying the going rent. If they are paying the going rate are they being disadvantaged compared to others? would be the argument they would use.
CRFC, through their own hard work & effort are steadily rising and creating a better home at BPA. Again same argument would be used have they been disadvantaged?
In any case i dont think anything that Lucas said was actually legally binding on Wasps. Just political double speak i think
No i am not saying i agree with the situation or supporting Wasps - irks me that i have to make that clear to some on here - i want what is best for CCFC and always have
Does anyone know how long sisu have left if they are to appeal to the Supreme Court regarding the JR?
4 weeks from the time they were last told no appeal from appeals court, so by my reckoning 2 weeks tomorrow.Does anyone know how long sisu have left if they are to appeal to the Supreme Court regarding the JR?
Surely all bets are off and all goodwill lost given the court action?Yup, Eastwood repeated the assurances at a SBT meeting but I can't remember exactly what he said.
But unless it is in a contract assurances are worthless & unenforceable if circumstances change.
Very well put, unfortunately a number of people on here don’t wish to accept the facts as they stand, and would rather accuse others of giving wasps a free ride, or of being wasp apologists. But unfortunately, while sisu own the club, both ccfc and sisu are viewed as being the same entity by the council, ACL, Higgs trust and wasps. Until sisu sell the club, this ongoing mistrust will continue.
The ever looming end to the current tenancy agreement may hopefully result in an end to the ongoing legal saga, and pave the way for a long term arrangement to stay at the Ricoh, but if it dosnt, then I could only assume that sisu care a lot less about ccfc than they do about chasing their lost investment.
Wasps took advantage . Sisu screwed it up and we are where we are. Terrible positionThe main accusation from people like you regarding sisu getting their filthy hands on the Ricoh was that they would mortgage a community asset and tie it up with loans to fund equity
Wasps do the same and suddenly it’s an acceptable business practice
Wasps own it mate and can do what they like, don’t like it but that’s a fact.The main accusation from people like you regarding sisu getting their filthy hands on the Ricoh was that they would mortgage a community asset and tie it up with loans to fund equity
Wasps do the same and suddenly it’s an acceptable business practice
Think you have missed the point.Wasps own it mate and can do what they like, don’t like it but that’s a fact.
What a load of apologist shite. The case would be the same with SISU thenWasps own it mate and can do what they like, don’t like it but that’s a fact.
Your mates on the council made the sole decision to sell to Wasps. Nobody forced them to do it.Wasps took advantage . Sisu screwed it up and we are where we are. Terrible position
Yes they did, sisu forced them to do it.Your mates on the council made the sole decision to sell to Wasps. Nobody forced them to do it.
Yes they did, sisu forced them to do it.
It’s simply a case of economics, what was the council supposed to do with an empty stadium?
Once sisu had dragged ccfc out of Coventry, and made public their intention to build a new stadium of their own, the council was lumbered with an empty facility which was draining their resorces, What did you expect them to say when a buyer came along?
Nobody forced them to do it.
The council leader thought the stadium was "washing it's face" and didn't need CCFC.
If they needed to sell, whack it out on the open market to get the best deal.
I'm presuming that you, and all those who are venting at the Council, will be changing their votes in the next election? You can only moan so much on here and go around in constant circles.
Blame Wasps - boycott them. There's not much more you can do.
Blame SISU - boycott them. There's not much more you can do.
Blame CCC - change your vote.
The club was back at the stadium fatty and had made noises about longer term details. The council lied in public about the prospects of a longer term deal whilst negotiating with Wasps in the background.Yes they did, sisu forced them to do it.
It’s simply a case of economics, what was the council supposed to do with an empty stadium?
Once sisu had dragged ccfc out of Coventry, and made public their intention to build a new stadium of their own, the council was lumbered with an empty facility which was draining their resorces, What did you expect them to say when a buyer came along?
The club was back at the stadium fatty and had made noises about longer term details. The council lied in public about the prospects of a longer term deal whilst negotiating with Wasps in the background.
My personal view is that Wasps were the context to the failed negotiations in 2012/13.
Makes me laugh how Fisher's statements are or aren't credible to fit whatever argument you've got.
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