Sisu out now (3 Viewers)

[dojer]

Bullshite.

Our threadbare team couldn't cope with the onslaught of Palace. SISU have effectively castrated us. We are no hopers.

You can't blame the board for the team not securing a win in a game they were leading in for 40 minutes. We could have easily won this game, if the wind had blown differently Jutkiewicz could have had a hat-trick and a lot of people on this board wouldn't be screaming their heads off to get the board out because we lost a game. There are 43 games left this season and the board could finally decide to sign 2 or 3 players in order to prevent this happening.

If you look at what happened on the pitch then Thorn has to be blamed for the capitulation, yes he hasn't had the money and I agree with the sentiment that if we had been able Marlon King we could have got at 5 or at best maximum points so far. But he has stuck to this diamond formation which is good in possession but it requires the team to work their socks off in order to defend in order to prevent the opposition scoring particularly from crosses from deep. A better or more experienced manager would probably have been able to identify that this is where the formation fails as well as it requiring a lot of players to play out of position which is not ideal.

However that analysis is based on 3 games where the team has been unlucky, if it wasn't for cruel lady luck then we might have won all the first 3 games, same manager, same players, same board and we wouldn't be crucifying the players and we would be at least more patient with the board. We could also end up winning the next 3 and finish mid-table if we are lucky. But the omens aren't good at the moment given how almost reckless other clubs have been in their levels of spending, we can't keep up without putting our club further in the mire, Hoffman's takeover looks like it has run out of steam (if there was any in the first place) so maybe the club has to downsize in the short term to be better in the long term. I'd rather get relegated than the club after some chancer comes in and spends astronomical amounts on average players (Bristol City, Leicester and Portsmouth I'm looking at you) which puts us in worse trouble. Football has become the pursuit of speculators right now and its almost unheard of in the top 2 divisions now to try and run a club within its own limitations, what has 'castrated us' has been the apathy of a lot of fans who no longer go to games which means the clubs revenue streams are drying up with increasing effect each year but the board has to be blamed for not attempting to buy into the stadium.

 

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[rob9872]

So has anyone got any news on this Don Ochete fella?

 

[rob9872]

Damn - wrong account

 

[6 Generations]

Radio C&W did not read my questions to Paul 'Clown"ing during the fans forum. Many teams that have frequented the Premiership have fallen on hard times. Some who used to be first division clubs(Former name for Premiership) had slipped beneath the radar. Wolves were a goal away from the abyss of The Conference, Brighton had no ground and little hope for 10 years. Leicester went into admin (and nearly went Again!!), Ipswich went into admin. Southampton and Portsmouth went into admin, Leeds went into admin, Charlton and Forest were on the edge.
With the exception of Charlton, who will more than likely return to the Championship after this season, all of those sides appear on the road to recovery. I have not even mentioned Norwich who slipped down to the 3rd tier, only to stumble upon Paul Lambert and with the help of Delia have returned to the top flight.

The bank does not have to be broken.

With the right manager and maybe an investment of say 5 to 7 million on players, promotion to the Prem is nailed on.

SISU are one of the globes largest hedge funds.

Why are they not taking a gamble on us?

That is what they do!!

What,if not to invest in my club, is their purpose?

Either they invest before Saturday ( Watford at home ) or i will make it my purpose in life to to fuck them as much as they have fucked over one of the great loves of my life!!

That is all.

 

[SydneySkyBlue]

You can't blame the board for the team not securing a win in a game they were leading in for 40 minutes. We could have easily won this game, if the wind had blown differently Jutkiewicz could have had a hat-trick and a lot of people on this board wouldn't be screaming their heads off to get the board out because we lost a game. There are 43 games left this season and the board could finally decide to sign 2 or 3 players in order to prevent this happening.

If you look at what happened on the pitch then Thorn has to be blamed for the capitulation, yes he hasn't had the money and I agree with the sentiment that if we had been able Marlon King we could have got at 5 or at best maximum points so far. But he has stuck to this diamond formation which is good in possession but it requires the team to work their socks off in order to defend in order to prevent the opposition scoring particularly from crosses from deep. A better or more experienced manager would probably have been able to identify that this is where the formation fails as well as it requiring a lot of players to play out of position which is not ideal.

However that analysis is based on 3 games where the team has been unlucky, if it wasn't for cruel lady luck then we might have won all the first 3 games, same manager, same players, same board and we wouldn't be crucifying the players and we would be at least more patient with the board. We could also end up winning the next 3 and finish mid-table if we are lucky. But the omens aren't good at the moment given how almost reckless other clubs have been in their levels of spending, we can't keep up without putting our club further in the mire, Hoffman's takeover looks like it has run out of steam (if there was any in the first place) so maybe the club has to downsize in the short term to be better in the long term. I'd rather get relegated than the club after some chancer comes in and spends astronomical amounts on average players (Bristol City, Leicester and Portsmouth I'm looking at you) which puts us in worse trouble. Football has become the pursuit of speculators right now and its almost unheard of in the top 2 divisions now to try and run a club within its own limitations, what has 'castrated us' has been the apathy of a lot of fans who no longer go to games which means the clubs revenue streams are drying up with increasing effect each year but the board has to be blamed for not attempting to buy into the stadium.

Dojer,

You've somehow made it sound like Thorn's spoilt for choice and we're lucky to have these f*ckers in charge of our club.

Let's bear in mind that we've already seen these players attempt to play in different styles and formations and the results weren't pretty!

You mention lady luck but we've had decent chances in these games that we've not taken. You said yourself that King would have stuck them away. He's not here and he hasn't been replaced either. Now is that Thorn's fault or the board's?

It's clear to see that they won't be investing any more of their money on us so why should we be content with them remaining in control?

Andy Thorn's brand of football is the only reason our attendances aren't worse than they are, and that's saying something. He's doing his bit and SISU aren't doing there's. In fact, they couldn't have made it more difficult for the bloke if they tried.

We have an offer on the table from a man that's as passionate about our club as we are and happens to be highly credible and very well connected in the right places. We're very lucky to have that so don't give me this bollocks about us giving the club up to a 'chancer' because it's not true is it?

The only apathy that's holding this club back is that from people that are more than happy to see us being controlled by distant "money" men that couldn't give a toss if the club gets relegated.

 

[lordsummerisle]

Really? Or are you just disagreeing for the sake of it again?

All that matters is that we did have chances and we didn't take them. Again.

No, they had 8 attempts on target to our 4.

 

[torchomatic]

I agree with a lot of what you say. Yes, SISU should have given AT money, but when it comes to kick-off then Thorn is in charge and he makes the decisions. It's him who decides to put Keogh in the middle and a 17 year old at right-back when we have someone like McPake on the bench.

And as for Juke, yes he'll get goals, but on the average of one in every five clear-cut chances. He needs to be more ruthless. We could have killed the game off.

As for them scoring at the death. You can't blame the players or the board. It's simply lack of experience from the players and manager.

Hopefully (touching wood) AT will get some funds soon.

You can't blame the board for the team not securing a win in a game they were leading in for 40 minutes. We could have easily won this game, if the wind had blown differently Jutkiewicz could have had a hat-trick and a lot of people on this board wouldn't be screaming their heads off to get the board out because we lost a game. There are 43 games left this season and the board could finally decide to sign 2 or 3 players in order to prevent this happening.

If you look at what happened on the pitch then Thorn has to be blamed for the capitulation, yes he hasn't had the money and I agree with the sentiment that if we had been able Marlon King we could have got at 5 or at best maximum points so far. But he has stuck to this diamond formation which is good in possession but it requires the team to work their socks off in order to defend in order to prevent the opposition scoring particularly from crosses from deep. A better or more experienced manager would probably have been able to identify that this is where the formation fails as well as it requiring a lot of players to play out of position which is not ideal.

However that analysis is based on 3 games where the team has been unlucky, if it wasn't for cruel lady luck then we might have won all the first 3 games, same manager, same players, same board and we wouldn't be crucifying the players and we would be at least more patient with the board. We could also end up winning the next 3 and finish mid-table if we are lucky. But the omens aren't good at the moment given how almost reckless other clubs have been in their levels of spending, we can't keep up without putting our club further in the mire, Hoffman's takeover looks like it has run out of steam (if there was any in the first place) so maybe the club has to downsize in the short term to be better in the long term. I'd rather get relegated than the club after some chancer comes in and spends astronomical amounts on average players (Bristol City, Leicester and Portsmouth I'm looking at you) which puts us in worse trouble. Football has become the pursuit of speculators right now and its almost unheard of in the top 2 divisions now to try and run a club within its own limitations, what has 'castrated us' has been the apathy of a lot of fans who no longer go to games which means the clubs revenue streams are drying up with increasing effect each year but the board has to be blamed for not attempting to buy into the stadium.

 

[SydneySkyBlue]

No, they had 8 attempts on target to our 4.

In that case pass on my congratulations.

We're here to talk about Coventry City not Crystal Palace. They scored 2 at the end and we didn't.

 

[SydneySkyBlue]

He won't be getting any funds torchy. That's the problem.