Trust fisher less than mutton but doesn't matter, they will not deal with sisuOnly because the fans do not want it.
At Hull, Doncaster etc. Mutton would indeed have his appointment with the Whicker Man.
We support CCFC not SISU or ACL or CCC. You seem to equate SISU with CCFC which is making you Myopic.
Ah, I thought being idealistic was another form of keeping the faith.No it makes me realistic not idealistic or just plain stupid.
Hi Michael, am I on your mailing list? I am a member (I don't have a card or anything) but signed up when it started up again.
No it makes me just plain stupid.
Can't disagree with that well said for a change !!!
Seriously, fuck the Trust.
We support CCFC not SISU or ACL or CCC. You seem to equate SISU with CCFC which is making you Myopic.
Who owns CCFC? :facepalm:
SISU are current owners. We owe no more loyalty to them than we do to the owners of any business we frequent. Do you feel loyal to the owners and shareholders of Wetherspoons, Tesco, Nike, Microsoft, Samsung etc?Who owns CCFC? :facepalm:
You haven't. You have raised questions to the ACL Trust -- never a wise move.
SISU are current owners. We owe no more loyalty to them than we do to the owners of any business we frequent. Do you feel loyal to the owners and shareholders of Wetherspoons, Tesco, Nike, Microsoft, Samsung etc?
SISU are current owners. We owe no more loyalty to them than we do to the owners of any business we frequent. Do you feel loyal to the owners and shareholders of Wetherspoons, Tesco, Nike, Microsoft, Samsung etc?
SISU are current owners. We owe no more loyalty to them than we do to the owners of any business we frequent. Do you feel loyal to the owners and shareholders of Wetherspoons, Tesco, NIke, Microsoft, Samsung etc?
Yes but football clubs are businesses; we all realised that when we kept selling all our decent players long ago. If SISU cannot run the business, despite allegedly pouring in millions, you would expect them to move aside and let someone else. If they have bought a pup which they cannot sell they have no one to blame but themselves. They have had 5 years. There is a deal to be done but they don't seem to want to strike it.No, because I haven't been supporting Tesco since the age of 3. I haven't cried when Tesco run out of sausage rolls. I haven't bonded with my father at the checkout. I haven't travelled the country in a Tesco shirt. I don't give a shit about Tesco.
So again, the answer is no.
great fans we have! :facepalm:
Yes but football clubs are businesses; we all realised that when we kept selling all our decent players long ago. If SISU cannot run the business, despite allegedly pouring in millions, you would expect them to move aside and let someone else. If they have bought a pup which they cannot sell they have no one to blame but themselves. They have had 5 years. There is a deal to be done but they don't seem to want to strike it.
I don't feel any loyalty to hose brands you mentioned...
Lower rent agreement is in the best interests of CCFC, regardless of who owns the club, but there are many who are blinded with their anti-SISU zeal, they miss this and support a party that is forcing the club to sign a diktat (among the club) which goes against the club's best interests, great fans we have! :facepalm:
You need to mix with a few Villa, Albion or Wolves fans. Our fans are more level headed but just as cynical.We seem to have a lot of fans who are a strange mixture of Scousers and Geordies. The self-pity and paranoia of there being a media conspiracy against us, mixed in with 'we really are the best fans in the country, we have great support' delusion of Newcastle.
In reality our fans are a strange bunch and part of our suffering over the years probably comes from the attitude of the supporters. Nowhere else in the country would you have the attitude you have on here, the prospect of having a fan representative on the board of CCFC would genuinely horrify me.
We seem to have a lot of fans who are a strange mixture of Scousers and Geordies. The self-pity and paranoia of there being a media conspiracy against us, mixed in with 'we really are the best fans in the country, we have great support' delusion of Newcastle.
In reality our fans are a strange bunch and part of our suffering over the years probably comes from the attitude of the supporters. Nowhere else in the country would you have the attitude you have on here, the prospect of having a fan representative on the board of CCFC would genuinely horrify me.
You need to mix with a few Villa, Albion or Wolves fans. Our fans are more level headed but just as cynical.
At this point I'm bowing out - evening all, and thankfully we've got a game tomorrow to remind ourselves of what really matters
How did you draw that conclusion?So there should be a revolving door of owners who are happy to spend money on a club and then leave quietly when their money runs out?
Cheering on the ACL?
Forgive me Taylor, but we could have been taken to the cleaners a long time before now. If ACL really wanted the club wiped off the map it could have pushed to do so long before now. Do you honestly believe that SISU will wind the club up over not being able to get £100k/year for nothing?
'Lower rent when we want, we're ACL, we lower rent when we want'.
'We are A-C-L, say we are A-C-L!'
Guardiola's dropped Iniesta for the United game next week-says he's seen enough of Fleck in training to make the step up. This muppet is ruining our title hopes.
ACL couldn't just wipe the club off the map, because they'd damage their business venture, possibly even threaten it's viability to.
Do I think SISU would wind up the club over that? Hmmmm, I'd need to have a look at the club's finances first, but I'll answer the question posed in short: no. But quite clearly, it's more than that, it's also the reduction of rent and debt written off, they're are the stumbling blocks at the moment, which CCFC need, and if ACL can't give up after profiteering in CCFC's time of need, we can all drop the it's the 'poor old council and democratically elected charity' bullshit because....it.
Fleck is better than Iniesta anyway? :laugh:
ACL is a commercial company, not a charity. Its aim is to make money. Of course they're capitalists. Don't confuse the issue.
Why should the club not benefit from all revenue generated by their own supporters? Anyone looking to buy the club would expect the same as well.
The anti-sisu sentiment is so strong amongst our supporters that they are against what is best for their football club. Bizarre.
Hardly the actions of a 'charity', is it?
Mmm...if you ran a poll on here with "Which side is Jan on? ACL or SISU", I think 100% would tick the ACL box.
It's about being independent and wanting the best for the Club. You certainly don't come across as independent and not wanting our current custodians to get a slice of the stadium - by writing to Mutton - shows that you certainly don't want the best for the club. You just want SISU out, whatever the consequences are.
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