Only problem in your analogy being that afterwards they carried on fighting and killing each other for four years...
I don't know about that but if two warring parties can come out of there trenches at Christmas, exchange warm messages and gather to play a good natured game of Football, then Sisu and ACL can put aside their differences and come to a mutual agreement.
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So you are stating that if SISU were to drop their appeal, despite most people saying it is utterly pointless, that it would make them look 'mighty weak.'Therefore using that logic, you would surely apply the same advice to ACL who have clearly stated their terms for a resumption of talks, ie the payment of the £590,000 and the dropping of legal threats.
For them to suddenly cave in and ignore their clear pre negotiation demands, will surely make them look incredibly weak. Or are you only worried about SISU having a loss of face.
the £590k has been lodge in escrow so effectively paid.
ACL would gain tremendously from the football club being back at the Ricoh. from sponsorship deals to f&b and footfall using all the available outlets from casino to burger van. They are getting income from all of these one way or another.
ACL can not dictate legal action be dropped or as you say suggest it is utterly pointless. How would anyone know that? If we knew the outcome of the courts beforehand then why do we have them?
Who cares how incredibly weak ACL appear? They are incredibly weak as it stands and getting more so every day.
They can negotiate without losing anything they have not got already without the hard ball attitude of stubbornness.
They are more venerable than SISU whether you like it or not.
The carrot has been dangled by SISU and is already an about turn in thinking so just respond and make an attempt at getting round the table. Drop all your conditions and show the fans how amenable you are and this will reflect badly if SISU having suggested it end up refusing it.
ACL's job is to have a football club using the Ricoh with it's potential capacity usage. There is only ever going to be one football club in the area that can achieve that, so stop with the pre conditions and attempt every time, any time to get that football team back in the Ricoh. Who SISU are, what they are, how they are has no concerns for doing your job.
Strange that some people readily accept and support the unfounded viewpoints of proven liars.
Who supports the view points of proven liars, that comment hasn't been made once?
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SISU should get rid of Fisher and sign you up. What you have just stated there is better than anything that Fisher has released on behalf of SISU.
590k effectively paid? Yes, but not paid. And are holding off paying ACL anything so points towards still wanting to distress ACL and not wanting to make a deal.
Paxman in his assertion that acl are weak.
No evidence of that other than in the ramblings of Fisher.
Harsh, I think Paxman has a really strong opinion on the topic personally.
I must admit I read this Astute and it's a very distorted opinion..
The money has been placed into an Escrow Account for the Football League to determine the true value of what the Club owe ACL, now what we believe to be correct is something that only the Football League will rule in, one way or the other.
Also the Football League required the Club to meet the requirements in this manner, so why are the Club trying to "hold off on paying ACL" or trying to "distress ACL" you would think ACL would know this information!
I tend to agree with the judge. He is impartial in all of the crap that is going on. And he couldn't have been more scathing of SISU if he had tried. So I would say that we all have this information.
I tend to agree with the judge. He is impartial in all of the crap that is going on. And he couldn't have been more scathing of SISU if he had tried. So I would say that we all have this information.
So a deadline of May 31st was set by the FL, how come it wasn't paid before this date if with holding money was not Sisu's plan..
Otium is the club, isn't it?
It seems SISU are using the situation to their advantage by dubious means yet again . By putting the money in an ESCROW ,not only do ACL not get the disputed cash ,they dont get the undisputed amount either . The FL cannot sanction payment until it is 110 percent sure its right for legal reasons .
And they want to discuss coming back to the Ricoh!
Your havin a laf
The JR showed that CCC/ACL acted lawfully. So you are happy for this 'legal process' to occur and produce that result. But now you want 'legal process' to be ignored just so ACL get some money.
Absurd.
What legal process? It's a private agreement between two parties. Nothing to do with the law.
Are you not a little but pissed off at Sisu for playing silly buggers with our club instead of just paying what was agreed?
You'd have to be some kind of simple sycophant to actually keep believing Sisu are acting reasonably and not taking the piss at each step.
Quite frankly - the FL put the agreement in place... it is theirs to manage. As long as SISU have done what the FL expect and the club is free of sanctions I couldn't care less.
It is up to ACL to arrange the transfer of the monies from FL. If everything was crystal clear then surely they would have had it by now?
NO! They are the custodians of the club.
Quite frankly - the FL put the agreement in place... it is theirs to manage. As long as SISU have done what the FL expect and the club is free of sanctions I couldn't care less.
It is up to ACL to arrange the transfer of the monies from FL. If everything was crystal clear then surely they would have had it by now?
the £590k has been lodge in escrow so effectively paid.
ACL would gain tremendously from the football club being back at the Ricoh. from sponsorship deals to f&b and footfall using all the available outlets from casino to burger van. They are getting income from all of these one way or another.
ACL can not dictate legal action be dropped or as you say suggest it is utterly pointless. How would anyone know that? If we knew the outcome of the courts beforehand then why do we have them?
Who cares how incredibly weak ACL appear? They are incredibly weak as it stands and getting more so every day.
They can negotiate without losing anything they have not got already without the hard ball attitude of stubbornness.
They are more venerable than SISU whether you like it or not.
The carrot has been dangled by SISU and is already an about turn in thinking so just respond and make an attempt at getting round the table. Drop all your conditions and show the fans how amenable you are and this will reflect badly if SISU having suggested it end up refusing it.
ACL's job is to have a football club using the Ricoh with it's potential capacity usage. There is only ever going to be one football club in the area that can achieve that, so stop with the pre conditions and attempt every time, any time to get that football team back in the Ricoh. Who SISU are, what they are, how they are has no concerns for doing your job.
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