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[dekker]

Forgive me...i lost the will to follow this bollocks very closely a long time ago so i may have missed certain things...

but can someone please tell me if anyone has seriously tried to get SISU out of our club??

targetting investments they've made in other firms....targetting employees of said firms....just generally being an utter pain in the arse til they fuck off??

 

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[Nick]

How would any of that make them decide to leave?

 

[NorthernWisdom]

targetting employees of said firms

What would that serve? Why is it their fault and why do they deserve to be 'targeted'?

 

[dekker]

How would any of that make them decide to leave?

if SISU and their associated companies investments started to be affected by a sustained campaign of 'protest' by cov fans aimed at these other companies then at some point it would become too costly for SISU to hang onto us.

 

[skybluebeduff]

To put it basic and brief, it's all gone Pete Tong.

 

[dekker]

i don't care whether it's their fault or not....fuck all the reasonableness.

drag the value of SISU's investments down and they'll soon take notice.

 

[NorthernWisdom]

i don't care whether it's their fault or not....fuck all the reasonableness..

So why does some bloke doing his job quite happily in a random company deserve 'targetting'?

What if it turns out SISU have a stake in the company you work for, would you target yourself?

 

[Bluegloucester]

i don't care whether it's their fault or not....feck all the reasonableness.

drag the value of SISU's investments down and they'll soon take notice.

Where will you find out where the other investments are?

 

[dekker]

that would be the key obviously....but it's possible.

fuxsake lads we need to do something.....we're taking this crap lying down....

 

[Flying Fokker]

if SISU and their associated companies investments started to be affected by a sustained campaign of 'protest' by cov fans aimed at these other companies then at some point it would become too costly for SISU to hang onto us.

I think the law would prevent anything like stalking, harassment, public demonstrations.

 

[dekker]

So why does some bloke doing his job quite happily in a random company deserve 'targetting'?

What if it turns out SISU have a stake in the company you work for, would you target yourself?

i'd certainly make my feelings known.

what do you suggest then? sit around and wait for les reid to update us on the courtcase? ask them nicely to go away?

 

[Nick]

So protesting outside other businesses will make them go too? Then you get a restraining order

 

[Flying Fokker]

Where will you find out where the other investments are?

Any volunteers for the Cayman Islands?

 

[mark82]

Any volunteers for the Cayman Islands?

Expenses paid?

 

[dekker]

I think the law would prevent anything like stalking, harassment, public demonstrations.

it's that sort of defeatist attitude that we need to erase.

there are ways and means of getting your point across.

i'd like to see how the law can regulate a few thousand people sending emails from hotmail accounts to every single person in every company sisu have invested repeatedly....

 

[dekker]

So protesting outside other businesses will make them go too? Then you get a restraining order

then someone else goes and protests.

jesus christ...are we beaten already?? NOW is when we should be really putting the squeeze on....

 

[Nick]

it's that sort of defeatist attitude that we need to erase.

there are ways and means of getting your point across.

i'd like to see how the law can regulate a few thousand people sending emails from hotmail accounts to every single person in every company sisu have invested repeatedly....

What the hell is emailing them spam going to do? If they have decent enough IT systems it will block it anyway.

It isn't being defeatist it is being realistic...

If millionaire experienced business men can't get rid of them then what are a few blokes sending emails and chanting sisu out going to do?

 

[dekker]

Any volunteers for the Cayman Islands?

i've got that one covered mate cheers.

 

[dekker]

What the hell is emailing them spam going to do? If they have decent enough IT systems it will block it anyway.

It isn't being defeatist it is being realistic...

If millionaire experienced business men can't get rid of them then what are a few blokes sending emails and chanting sisu out going to do?

it isn't spam if it's being sent by individuals and would not be treated as such by their servers...

where does fisher live??

what about seppalla??

If millionaire experienced business men can't get rid of them

it's cunts like that who fucked it up for us in the first place so forgive me if i don't hold their 'efforts' in such high regard.

 

[dekker]

26 years ago today we pulled something off which no-one thought we would...after everyone had written us off...

today we're just gonna sit here rubbing our hands together and having a circle jerk about how hard done by we are??

at least that pair of jokers from acl who got caught by fishers motor with the balloons were doin SOMETHING.

 

[NorthernWisdom]

where does fisher live??

what about seppalla??

Because what really says 'buy me, spend your money on me' and makes people want to invest in a club is the sight of thousands of people harassing the owners.

 

[dekker]

Because what really says 'buy me, spend your money on me' and makes people want to invest in a club is the sight of thousands of people harassing the owners.

yeah you're right...passion is worthless...what really gets the investment juices flowing is utter apathy and a prevailing sense of helplessness...

ffs.

 

[Nick]

it isn't spam if it's being sent by individuals and would not be treated as such by their servers...
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Of course it can be spam if it is from individuals and like I said if they wanted to block it they could... Email Bombing them wouldnt do anything.

Are you going to protest outside Fisher and Seppalla's house too?

 

[NorthernWisdom]

You can direct passion towards the club.

Making it personal (especially to total strangers working the lathes in a bodyshop in Cyprus or something!) is just a bit self defeating.

 

[dekker]

Of course it can be spam if it is from individuals and like I said if they wanted to block it they could... Email Bombing them wouldnt do anything.

Are you going to protest outside Fisher and Seppalla's house too?

do you think if i did it would have zero effect??

fuck it i'll protest outside his kids schools if it works...

some of you seem to have forgotten what's at stake here.

 

[dekker]

You can direct passion towards the club.

Making it personal (especially to total strangers working the lathes in a bodyshop in Cyprus or something!) is just a bit self defeating.

no it isn't. it's about damaging the SISU brand and destroying their reputation.

listen i'm just throwing flimsy ideas about....but something needs to be done...right now no-one seems to be doin a thing other than moaning.

 

[NorthernWisdom]

fuck it i'll protest outside his kids schools if it works...

Again, nothing makes a club more attractive than scaring a few children.

 

[Colin1883]

do you think if i did it would have zero effect??

feck it i'll protest outside his kids schools if it works...

some of you seem to have forgotten what's at stake here.

Outside his kids school????????????????????????????????!!!!!!! ...

 

[dekker]

Again, nothing makes a club more attractive than scaring a few children.

fuckin man up you old woman....we're in an existential fight right now....

would you continue in your job if it meant your kids were being told daily you were a lying double dealing bastard?

 

[dekker]

Outside his kids school????????????????????????????????!!!!!!! ...

ok i was being a little flippant with that comment.

but we're talking about the death of CCFC.

 

[NorthernWisdom]

would you continue in your job if it meant your kids were being told daily you were a lying double dealing bastard?

I wouldn't buy a club if I reckoned my children might be threatened down the line, either.

 

[dekker]

good job you aint in the running then eh norman.

 

[WillieStanley]

We shall go on to the end. We shall fight in Northampton, we shall fight outside the schools and via email, we shall fight with growing confidence and growing strength in the press, we shall defend our club, whatever the cost may be. We shall fight outside the schools and via email, we shall fight on the forums and in the streets, we shall fight in the hills; we shall never surrender!!

 

[WFC]

The word 'targeting' makes it sound a bit sinister, perhaps campaigning might be a better word.

No-one working for a company should be targeted or harassed, nor should and company or it's officers be subject to any abuse; however lots of individuals writing to a company to say that they have become aware of their investment in a company/fund and because of the unethical practice's of that company/fund they will be boycotting their company and it's products and publicising their intersects in it is a perfectly legitimate campaign and tactic.

There are thousand of cases where when done in sufficient numbers ( which is lower than you think) this has forced changes of policy and direction by companies as they come under pressure from investors and sponsors because of the damage being done to their brand.

Only my opinion of course, but if you want to keep your club alive you're going to have to fight for it but it would need to be done without harassment or abuse as this tends to just negate and undermine the effect.

 

[WFC]

The word 'targeting' makes it sound a bit sinister, perhaps campaigning might be a better word.

No-one working for a company should be targeted or harassed, nor should and company or it's officers be subject to any abuse; however lots of individuals writing to a company to say that they have become aware of their investment in a company/fund and because of the unethical practice's of that company/fund they will be boycotting their company and it's products and publicising their intersects in it is a perfectly legitimate campaign and tactic.

There are thousand of cases where when done in sufficient numbers ( which is lower than you think) this has forced changes of policy and direction by companies as they come under pressure from investors and sponsors because of the damage being done to their brand.

Only my opinion of course, but if you want to keep your club alive you're going to have to fight for it but it would need to be done without harassment or abuse as this tends to just negate and undermine the effect.