SixReasons Not To Go To Sixfields this Sunday - updated in response to comments! (2 Viewers)

MichaelCCFC · Aug 21, 2013

SixReasons Not To Go To Sixfields this Sunday - updated in response to comments! And I still haven't had a single answer to point 6...

1. The cold, hard reality is that every City fan inside sixfields helps the justification of the move to Northampton – when looking at the big picture, individual reasons for going don't alter that reality.

2. A short-term move could have been justified if a new ground in Coventry was guaranteed but no new site has been purchased, no planning application has been submitted etc etc. There is no concrete evidence that a new ground will be built or that moving out of Coventry is temporary.

3. Support the team not Sisu! We can go to away games or even watch from Jimmy's Hill, but for this Sunday the best option is…

4. On 25 August we can support a Sky Blues team at the Ricoh - Coventry City Ladies FC (£5, or £3 for concessions – kick off 2pm).

5. Let’s think about the next generation of City fans – not going to sixfields is short-term pain for the long-term gain of getting CCFC back to Coventry.

6. If people want CCFC to return to Coventry but go inside sixfields, what is the suggested strategy instead of not one penny more and boycotting Northampton?

stupot07 · Aug 21, 2013

Why have you posted this again?

ccfcway · Aug 21, 2013

7. If you don't live in the country and flights back on a sunday afternoon / evening are a darn sight more expensive than flights back on a Sunday morning when we used to play on Sat afternoon

edgy · Aug 21, 2013

1. No it doesn't justify the move. That is your opinion and not fact. Some people believe that by attending Sixfields they may just be keeping the Club, it's name and it's history alive. Maybe by attending Sixfields they are keeping the actual sale price of the club down.

4. Why would any CCFC fan want to watch a ladies team when their team is playing at the same time. Listen on the radio. By going to the Ricoh you are justifying ACL in not negiotiating with SISU. A "we don't need CCFC" mentality.

5. See answer to 1.

If you represent the trust, I suggest you don't make your view with their logo attached. Not going to unite the fan base with such one sided views.

theferret · Aug 21, 2013

MichaelCCFC said:
SixReasons Not To Go To Sixfields this Sunday - updated in response to comments! And I still haven't had a single answer to point 6...

1. The cold, hard reality is that every City fan inside sixfields helps the justification of the move to Northampton – when looking at the big picture, individual reasons for going don't alter that reality.

2. A short-term move could have been justified if a new ground in Coventry was guaranteed but no new site has been purchased, no planning application has been submitted etc etc. There is no concrete evidence that a new ground will be built or that moving out of Coventry is temporary.

3. Support the team not Sisu! We can go to away games or even watch from Jimmy's Hill, but for this Sunday the best option is…

4. On 25 August we can support a Sky Blues team at the Ricoh - Coventry City Ladies FC (£5, or £3 for concessions – kick off 2pm).

5. Let’s think about the next generation of City fans – not going to sixfields is short-term pain for the long-term gain of getting CCFC back to Coventry.

6. If people want CCFC to return to Coventry but go inside sixfields, what is the suggested strategy instead of not one penny more and boycotting Northampton?

Point 6 - I have real misgivings about NOPM; I'm not sure it will work and it is very divisive. The alternative? Perhaps we should all turn out in numbers there - but also make ourselves visible. Protest before the game, protest after. One week we all wear black, the next we turn our back on the game for the first 5 minutes. The week after? Who knows, but the important thing would be to get creative and get noticed. Get in their faces and make it uncomfortable for them, and make the likes of TF dread turning up to games.

I'm just thinking out loud, but there has to be a better way than just staying away - because I suspect the media have already lost interest in that. They turned up for game 1, but I doubt they will be there Sunday or the game after that. We need to keep the issue live on a national level, but a near empty Sixfields isn't going to do that.

Perhaps I'm wrong and NOPM will work. I doubt it though, and all it will do is continue to divide supporters.

jimmyhillsfanclub · Aug 21, 2013

....I cannot see my personal reason for not going to sixfields...

...so I'll add it myself....

7. Cannot be arsed.

Deleted member 5849 · Aug 21, 2013

stupot07 said:
Why have you posted this again?

Does this mean I have to type out my reply... again, in an over wordy version of groundhog day?

Including my answer to point six!

Hugh Jarse · Aug 21, 2013

Perhaps I'm wrong and NOPM will work. I doubt it though, and all it will do is continue to divide supporters.

Maybe it will or maybe it won't but I'd rather see us 'fold' and start again with a new football club in Coventry than line those wankers pockets at SISU. Extreme, yes it is but these are my views and not necessarily representative of all CCFC fans.

RFC · Aug 21, 2013

Car's full in Sunday PUSB! PUSB!

blueflint · Aug 21, 2013

RFC said:
Car's full in Sunday PUSB! PUSB!

i would laugh if you broke down and didn't get there don't wish you any harm tho

covhead1 · Aug 21, 2013

RFC said:
Car's full in Sunday PUSB! PUSB!

Thats about all that will be

letsallsingtogether · Aug 21, 2013

More then the last game then see they been giving out those free tickets again........

RFC said:
Car's full in Sunday PUSB! PUSB!

shmmeee · Aug 21, 2013

So what is the strategy to harmonise NOPMers and those attending?

edgy · Aug 21, 2013

There isn't one Shmmeee. All I can see is the derision of those choosing to attend and the forcing of views and opinions onto people.

I suggested a banner or something to be made up for the Sixfields attendees to take with them. "This is not our home"

ajsccfc · Aug 21, 2013

jimmyhillsfanclub said:
....I cannot see my personal reason for not going to sixfields...

...so I'll add it myself....

7. Cannot be arsed.

Same for me, with an added 'ehhhhh, it's so far away'

Sky blue north east · Aug 21, 2013

Balls to NOPM go stand outside its LOADS OF PENNIES MORE you contradicting yourself by going watch ladies footie giving money to greedy ACL you pleb get to sixfields and be a REAL FAN PUSB LOPM!!!!

James Smith · Aug 21, 2013

RFC said:
Car's full in Sunday PUSB! PUSB!

Are you going anywhere nice or just to Sixfields? (With apologies to NTFC fans)

Cranfield Sky Blue · Aug 21, 2013

RFC said:
Car's full in Sunday PUSB! PUSB!

Boot sale?

Nick · Aug 21, 2013

It hasn't been updated from this: http://www.skybluestalk.co.uk/threads/35990-kcic-nopm-campaign-Six-Reasons-not-to-go-to-sixfields

Is filling out the Ricoh for random events going to help us get back to the Ricoh? All it will do is help ACL survive without CCFC so they won't be fussed about making a deal surely?

James Smith · Aug 21, 2013

Nick said:
It hasn't been updated from this: http://www.skybluestalk.co.uk/threads/35990-kcic-nopm-campaign-Six-Reasons-not-to-go-to-sixfields

Is filling out the Ricoh for random events going to help us get back to the Ricoh? All it will do is help ACL survive without CCFC so they won't be fussed about making a deal surely?

If it makes SISU realise that ACL aren't going to go bust, despite the lack of CCFC they might return to the negotiating table. Maybe I'm overly optimistic but I think there's more chance of that than the White Elephant stadium ever getting built.

Where are the plans for the White Elephant Stadium Tim?

Nick · Aug 21, 2013

How many more events can ACL put on though? Are people going to go and pay to watch the Coventry Tiddlywinks team to prove a point in December?

James Smith · Aug 21, 2013

Nick said:
How many more events can ACL put on though? Are people going to go and pay to watch the Coventry Tiddlywinks team to prove a point in December?

There's a Tiddlywinks team?

No wait I've got it - SISU will launch a legal attack on ACL for pinching their customers.

shmmeee · Aug 21, 2013

edgy said:
There isn't one Shmmeee. All I can see is the derision of those choosing to attend and the forcing of views and opinions onto people.

I suggested a banner or something to be made up for the Sixfields attendees to take with them. "This is not our home"

*mobile like*

Nick · Aug 21, 2013

James Smith said:
There's a Tiddlywinks team?

No wait I've got it - SISU will launch a legal attack on ACL for pinching their customers.

Just like ACL did?

James Smith · Aug 21, 2013

That was my first, second and third thoughts yes.

Sky Blue Pete · Aug 21, 2013

Shmee makes an excellent idea. Rfc would you do that take sisu out banners??

Grappa · Aug 21, 2013

Hi Michael,

Bit of a shame you've taken the Trust in the direction it has. I'm personally interested in why you're not treating both protagonists with equal disdain. It's a starve Sisu/fill ACL's pockets approach, by the looks of things.

Does your chosen direction have anything to do with the meeting of 3 Trust members with Preston Haskell? Who were the 3 members who met with him? What type of 'fan involvement' did he promise? Were Trust 'leaders' offered board places, for instance?

RoboCCFC90 · Aug 21, 2013

MichaelCCFC said:
6. If people want CCFC to return to Coventry but go inside sixfields, what is the suggested strategy instead of not one penny more and boycotting Northampton?

Maybe some people aren't considering stratergies or boycott's there are two reasons why people will attend Sixfields:

> Passion - Some people can't stay away it's a pull, it maybe okay for some people to say okay tough love I'll do it this way and that's fine, but not everyone can do things in the same way and this is why some people can't do without watching Coventry City.

> Faith - A lot of people are starting to consider whether Not One Penny More a message that is being used by thousands of fans and the trust is having any effect if an effect at all? If you believe NOPM and that's good enough for you then great, however if NOPM is the only thing keeping you from the Football and you think it's not working then the only thing you will do is abandon your stance.

I am not saying anyone who doesn't attend Sixfields doesn't have passion however, no one wants a stratergy, we're sick of playing games, if the Sky Blue Trust want to send a message then they should come up with one, because at the moment NOPM is not concrete, some people don't believe in it and some do.

Personally I think it's also wrong that the Sky Blue Trust also promtoes the idea of getting fans to attend the Ladies Matches at the Ricoh Arena. It shouldn't just be NOPM to SISU it should be to ACL as well as there another party that are involved in this story and if you should need a second reason why not protest the fact that until this season KCIC should have been applied to the Ladies Matches as well!!

BrisbaneBronco · Aug 21, 2013

MichaelCCFC said:
SixReasons Not To Go To Sixfields this Sunday - updated in response to comments! And I still haven't had a single answer to point 6...

1. The cold, hard reality is that every City fan inside sixfields helps the justification of the move to Northampton – when looking at the big picture, individual reasons for going don't alter that reality.

2. A short-term move could have been justified if a new ground in Coventry was guaranteed but no new site has been purchased, no planning application has been submitted etc etc. There is no concrete evidence that a new ground will be built or that moving out of Coventry is temporary.

3. Support the team not Sisu! We can go to away games or even watch from Jimmy's Hill, but for this Sunday the best option is…

4. On 25 August we can support a Sky Blues team at the Ricoh - Coventry City Ladies FC (£5, or £3 for concessions – kick off 2pm).

5. Let’s think about the next generation of City fans – not going to sixfields is short-term pain for the long-term gain of getting CCFC back to Coventry.

6. If people want CCFC to return to Coventry but go inside sixfields, what is the suggested strategy instead of not one penny more and boycotting Northampton?

Re point 4 -Why would anyone want to put money in ACL's pockets. Just as bad as SISU IMO

Nick · Aug 21, 2013

Grappa said:
Hi Michael,

Bit of a shame you've taken the Trust in the direction it has. I'm personally interested in why you're not treating both protagonists with equal disdain. It's a starve Sisu/fill ACL's pockets approach, by the looks of things.

Does your chosen direction have anything to do with the meeting of 3 Trust members with Preston Haskell? Who were the 3 members who met with him? What type of 'fan involvement' did he promise? Were Trust 'leaders' offered board places, for instance?

I'm not sure about the Trust but didn't he promise Joe Elliott would be chairman and there would be some sort of fan ownership / representation?

Grappa · Aug 21, 2013

Nick said:
I'm not sure about the Trust but didn't he promise Joe Elliott would be chairman and there would be some sort of fan ownership / representation?

I know Elliott and Hoffman were at the meeting but this is all I can find on the Trust's website:

"Three members of the trust board met with Preston Haskell IV, Ted Sullivan along with Joe Elliott and Gary Hoffman before the home game with Brentford.
Mr Haskell gave a short outline of his plans to invest in Coventry City FC and the Ricoh Arena. He emphasised the importance of proper involvement of supporters in the ownership and running of the club and in transparent communications.

As a result the trust board have 3 points to stress:

1. The Trust are desperately keen to see the whole business resolved as quickly as possible, so that the team can start next season with no further point penalties and with full confidence in our ability to win promotion to the Championship.

2. The meeting was very open, positive and constructive and Mr Haskellls plans seemed to be sound and realistic.

3. Mr Haskell appears to have a full understanding of the vital importance of supporter involvement in the ownership and running of the club. This was very encouraging.

The Sky Blue Trust was happy to meet with Mr Haskell. The Trust remains open to further meetings with Mr Haskell or any other potential investors who also recognise the need for investment in the club and support for fans involvement in ownership and running of the club. The Trust will continue to keep Trust members and other supporters informed of developments."

Deleted member 5849 · Aug 21, 2013

shmmeee said:
So what is the strategy to harmonise NOPMers and those attending?

Well here were some thoughts I jotted down on his first effort at posting this!

http://www.skybluestalk.co.uk/threa...ns-not-to-go-to-sixfields?p=527773#post527773

I'd add that if they want to reinvent the imagery they started out with, with sky blue ribbons, they could also supply some to fans attending Northampton to tie to their seats at the end of the game as they leave.

Anyway, the specifics can be worked on, the refusal to work with disparate groups and instead work against is slowly killing any fighting spirit.

And that ain't SISU doing that, nor ACL.

Deleted member 5849 · Aug 21, 2013

edgy said:
I suggested a banner or something to be made up for the Sixfields attendees to take with them. "This is not our home"

Any progress on this? CJ from the Trust seemed quite positive on your thread suggesting it.

Mazdaman · Aug 21, 2013

I've got my season ticket and will be at sixfields on Sunday.

Nopm is not the right approach.

shmmeee · Aug 21, 2013

Mazdaman said:
I've got my season ticket and will be at sixfields on Sunday.

Nopm is not the right approach for me.

Fixed that for you.

@NW: Cheers ( that thread descended into crazy pretty quickly).

I disagree about smaller protests, I think even one person at Sisu/FL is worth it and at worst does no harm.

I don't think you'll get crowds like the march again for just a protest, like the FPA game there has to be something going on. Totally agree with engaging those going, I know some on the Trust are, people must know people, can we get some sensible banners to them? Would those going take them?

Personally I like the idea of finding somewhere all Coventry based fans (trying desperately for non pigeon hole names) can watch the Sheff Utd game with a party/protest atmosphere. Then using local away games as another point of giving a coordinated message. 1800 at Shrewsbury will be the biggest collection of City fans since the Ricoh, perfect place for a positive message.

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