shmmeee
Well-Known Member
No same here mate. I'm trying to get to the bottom just like everyone else.
Was just my understanding shmmeee. Hence the "I believe". Happy to be proven wrong. As you say may have been getting my wires crossed between the offers.
That was the offer at admin (not heard the no break clause thing though, source?) and was made as stated repeatedly because those are the FL rules on tenancy of a ground.
They've since offered several temporary deals that have been rejected. Not sure you can pin this one on them.
Really?
I've not done the research like I have with City, but if you give me a team that's as close to us in terms of success as possible I'll run the numbers later.
So what? I don't support another league club. Presumably no one else who attended the Ricoh or HR over the years does either.
Yes, absolutely agree. This is what makes us as a group fickle. Other teams haven't seen that drop in attendances.
No I agree its a misleading argument as most clubs with a top 6 finish did it outside the top league. Its almost saying we'd have been better with more seasons in lower divisions. In the first season after relegation we were in the top 6 for a large part of the season.
On another note. I fully expect that should we end up in Legoland but with a successful team. We'll fill the place. Sisu or not as owners.
It's about expectations though isn't it? People never actually thought we'd be relegated, so when it happened it's a far bigger shock. Also when we went down we expected to be towards the top so anything else is seen as failure.
Windsor is much, much farther than Northampton. That's a mad suggestion.
Didn't they? Haven't we spent the majority of the last 40 seasons avoiding it?
Q&A With The Club.
I'm sure Crystal Palace fans will judge this season a success if they finish 17th, however I'm not sure their fans will be too happy with the prospect of 10/20/30 years of just avoiding relegation from the Premier League. It is not even the 34 years we spent in the top flight were interspersed with many memorable cup runs, indeed seemingly most seasons were a relegation dog fight, with early cup exits, often at the gleeful hands of lower league outfits.We've had years of nothing, although most people now seem to judge teams who sustain themselves in the Premier League as successful (see references to Southampton) - we did that for 34 years so were successful in that respect.
I really like Legoland (the actual one).
ACL made several offers to the club, with decreased rent, access to ACL's share of matchday revenues and so on-all were rejected. It almost certainly does go both ways however I think that now this is more a matter of pride for Seppalla since ACL hold the cards in terms of negotiation.
It was accompanied by an emailed statement from Tim Fisher declaring that CCFC has “no option but to build a new venue” and that CCFC’s proposals were predicated on playing at the Ricoh Arena for a “run-off period of three years.”
This is totally unacceptable to ACL.
Me too. Me and mini me go every summer courtesy of our clubcard vouchers.
The Fishbowl is a good one.
Didn't ACL reject a temporary thing?
What does this mean?
To me it reads that CCFC's proposals to ACL were based on a 3 year run off period but wasn't acceptable? I am probably wrong but a clever bod should be able to translate.
No it's right, but you've got to take it in context of the time.
ACL didn't think that Sisu could legally break the lease at the time. They thought they were being asked to voluntarily swap a 40 year lease for a lesser one. They were still negotiating with an organisation that as they saw it was contracted to them for the foreseeable.
The game changed once Sisu managed to wriggle out of the lease. Whatever the rights and wrongs of doing it, it meant ACL were negotiating from a starting point of having nothing.
I don't think anybody is happy with it, we would all prefer to be in the Premier League. That isn't to say that people will just sack them off because we aren't playing Chelsea every week and would still go if we went right to the conference and further.
3 year deal that's all we want.
Ain't that hard is it?
3 years x 150k rent is 450k less than the 590k they still owe ACL/ccc
Mind boggles
What temporary offers have been made to SISU since?
Q&A With The Club.
No I agree its a misleading argument as most clubs with a top 6 finish did it outside the top league. Its almost saying we'd have been better with more seasons in lower divisions. In the first season after relegation we were in the top 6 for a large part of the season.
I wasn't sure if this was genuine or not, had to go and check on the club website! Seems we're all worrying about nothing and there's not really any debt and it's all normal business practice.
they do seem to think we're all stupid and to be fair most of us are (myself included) when it comes to company finance but surely even they must have noticed that we have OSB to dumb it down for us. so when they go and post shit like this on the web site it just makes them look stupid.
i also noticed the CET have copy and pasted OSB's work.
To be honest Nick, I wouldn't be happy with this situation if we were in the Premier Lge...however we would probably be more attractive to other investors.
Some will support whatever the level most won't. It's always been easier to support Man U, Liverpool Arsenal etc than Darlington, Halifax, Hartlepool, or Staylybridge United. Also the most successful teams do tend to have the most money.
It probably explains why the vast majority of people in Scotland support one of two teams, followed by a block of four others.
But for me it's how the club is structured and what it is achieving within its own means is the key, not the level it is performing at.
So ACL did reject it when SISU asked to play at the Ricoh while they built a new ground? Yes, they still had the lease then so I guess ACL kind of laughed it off?
What temporary offers have been made to SISU since?
Plus matchday costs?
Yes correct and a lot more money than sixfields. If a new stadium is happening then this has to be the solution.
Also I do believe that offer to be correct in that free this season and 150k next 2 and stadium fishbowl(my fav) is built? (Cough cough)
There is some uncertainty on that - the free offer was alleged to have blurred matchday costs and was no different to the original offer.
Yes they didn't include matchday costs in the free rent offer.
Who would have though matchday costs would cost more at a 32,000 seater state of the art stadium over a shitty tin shed in Northampton with 1/5 of the attendance?
Depends how you define these terms; support or follow.For me it is the club I went to watch from before I can remember and was bred to support. Obviously I care about the structure because that could equate to success but I wouldn't ever stop supporting I don't think.
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