Sky Blue Trust Open Meeting In Casino Before Tonights Game (1 Viewer)

ashbyjan · Feb 5, 2013

Trust meeting in Lady G's at the Casino at the Ricoh, 6pm-7pm, tonight prior to ko v Crewe - open to ALL, so please come along and see what Trust is about.

Meeting will discuss the proposed new Mission Statement and Aims for the Trust - input from all is welcome and encouraged.

The meeting will be led by Roger Ellis who has been co-opted onto the Trust Board to provide additional expertise, he is a qualified solicitor with extensive experience of negotiating with football clubs and large corporations.

So come along one and all.

Donnie Brasco · Feb 5, 2013

Now that everyone is not screaming SISU OUT, what do the trust do? I can't attend as I will be working hence I am asking here.

MichaelCCFC · Feb 5, 2013

Proposed mission statement and aims for discussion at tonight's pre match meeting are:

ProposedMission Statement
The Sky Blue Trust missionis to work in partnership with other stakeholders to achieve the Trust’s visionof a Coventry City Football Club which has success on the pitch, is financiallystable, is rooted in the community and has supporters at the heart of the Club.

ProposedAims - theaims of the Trust are to:

Obtain an ownership stake in CCFC, giving supporters a direct say in the running of the Club and having at least one democratically elected Trust member on the CCFC Board.

Advocate financial stability for CCFC, with a business model based on avoiding unsustainable debt, and profits being reinvested directly in the Club. We do not want the Club being used for outside purposes by any owner who does not have the best interests of CCFC and its supporters as their main aim.
Have City fans respected as the lifeblood of the Club, at the heart of everything CCFC does. Supporters are not merely customers, to be seen just as a source of income. Players, managers, directors and owners come and go but supporters have a lifelong commitment to the Club and are the custodians of its traditions and heritage.
Benefit present and future members of the community by promoting and furthering the game of football as a recreational and sporting activity, encouraging and assisting the Club to undertake activities and to deliver and support services for the people of Coventry and Warwickshire.

Toachieve these aims the Trust will:

Work in partnership with the Club and all other stakeholders in CCFC.
Represent and give voice to the views of Trust members.
Pursue any viable opportunity to gain an ownership stake in CCFC.
Always remain an independent, not for profit supporters’ group with membership open to all Sky Blues supporters and operating transparently and democratically.

Anycomments?

Comments on the draft by no later than Friday 8 February to Michael at theskybluetrust@gmail.com

MichaelCCFC · Feb 5, 2013

EDIT

Proposed mission statement and aims for discussion at tonight's pre match meeting are:

Proposed Mission Statement

The Sky Blue Trust mission is to work in partnership with other stakeholders to achieve the Trust’s vision of a Coventry City Football Club which has success on the pitch, is financially stable, is rooted in the community and has supporters at the heart of the Club.

Proposed Aims - the aims of the Trust are to:

Advocate financial stability for CCFC, with a business model based on avoiding unsustainable debt, and profits being reinvested directly in the Club. We do not want the Club being used for outside purposes by any owner who does not have the best interests of CCFC and its supporters as their main aim.

Have City fans respected as the lifeblood of the Club, at the heart of everything CCFC does. Supporters are not merely customers, to be seen just as a source of income. Players, managers, directors and owners come and go but supporters have a lifelong commitment to the Club and are the custodians of its traditions and heritage.
Benefit present and future members of the community by promoting and furthering the game of football as a recreational and sporting activity, encouraging and assisting the Club to undertake activities and to deliver and support services for the people of Coventry and Warwickshire.

To achieve these aims the Trust will:

Work in partnership with the Club and all other stakeholders in CCFC.

Represent and give voice to the views of Trust members.
Pursue any viable opportunity to gain an ownership stake in CCFC.
Always remain an independent, not for profit supporters’ group with membership open to all Sky Blues supporters and operating transparently and democratically.

Any comments?
Comments on the draft by no later than Friday 8 February to Michael at theskybluetrust@gmail.com

Donnie Brasco · Feb 5, 2013

Surely these are the same aims as SISU have hence they have a crap load of money invested? I'm sorry but I really don't see the point. It may as well just be an unofficial city fan club.

ashbyjan · Feb 5, 2013

Our "job" is to try and make sure that whoever the clubs owners are that they have those same aims and encourage them to keep to those aims. Without a voice there is always the danger that the needs and desires of fans will be overlooked and ignored and we aim to ensure that doesn't happen. We want the fans to be at the centre of any decision making and not simply the interests of owners and investors/shareholders - often the two may well be the same but there will be times when they won't and that is when its important to have a strong fans organisation.

Donnie Brasco · Feb 5, 2013

ashbyjan said:
Our "job" is to try and make sure that whoever the clubs owners are that they have those same aims and encourage them to keep to those aims. Without a voice there is always the danger that the needs and desires of fans will be overlooked and ignored and we aim to ensure that doesn't happen. We want the fans to be at the centre of any decision making and not simply the interests of owners and investors/shareholders - often the two may well be the same but there will be times when they won't and that is when its important to have a strong fans organisation.

Surely the owners of any club want to maximise profit and the only way of doing that is to make the club a success? Yes sometimes owners get out of their depth ala Pompey, but all owners are trying to do the best for themselves which in essence means they are doing the best for the club as a bi product.

ashbyjan · Feb 5, 2013

In many ways you have just answered your own question by bringing up the Portsmouth scenario - too many clubs have been ruined by poor owners who let self interest, ego or whatever influence their decision making and not the good of the club or its fans. Our club has been mismanaged for decades, not just by current owners but by several previous regimes where their self interest lead to financial disaster time after time and one of the aims of the Trust is to ensure that owners stop gambling with the very viability of the clubs long term future for short term gain. All clubs, our included, have to become more self sufficient and not rely on sugar daddys ploughing money in whilst it is fashionable or this weeks hobby and then running out of interest or money and leaving the club high and dry. The Financial Fair play etc is a start but it makes logical sense for clubs to only spend what they bring in.
If you cannot make it to this meeting please feel free to come to the next meeting at the Squirrel at the start of March.

Waldorf · Feb 5, 2013

It's fine the Trust operating in an open and transparent way, but shouldn't there be something about encouraging the club to do the same?

Donnie Brasco · Feb 5, 2013

The trust has been going for quite a while now, what has it achieved?

GaryPendrysEyes · Feb 5, 2013

Donnie Brasco said:
Surely the owners of any club want to maximise profit and the only way of doing that is to make the club a success? Yes sometimes owners get out of their depth ala Pompey, but all owners are trying to do the best for themselves which in essence means they are doing the best for the club as a bi product.

Any business owner needs to talk/communicate with its customers and other stakeholders.
'Best for themselves' isnt necessarily best for 'coventry, fans, 'the community' is it?

1. What if they only have a short-term view with no interest in building club support in the community for the long term
2. What if they see raising ticket prices dramatically as the major income, rather than wanting to get more people up the Ricoh
3. What if the owners wanted to asset strip the club and not invest in it
4. What if they were out of touch with 'the match day experience' because they didnt communicate with fans....

usskyblue · Feb 5, 2013

Enjoy your £5 sell out tonight...

Oh, hi GPE

Donnie Brasco · Feb 5, 2013

GaryPendrysEyes said:
Any business owner needs to talk/communicate with its customers and other stakeholders.
'Best for themselves' isnt necessarily best for 'coventry, fans, 'the community' is it?

1. What if they only have a short-term view with no interest in building club support in the community for the long term
2. What if they see raising ticket prices dramatically as the major income, rather than wanting to get more people up the Ricoh
3. What if the owners wanted to asset strip the club and not invest in it
4. What if they were out of touch with 'the match day experience' because they didnt communicate with fans....

And in the twelve months (?) that the trust has been going has it contributed to any of the things that you mention? It's all a bit corporate for me. The stuff spouted by anyone within the trust seems too much like that from SISU when things were really bad. It just seems that the trust don't do anything but have lots of fancy words when you ask what they do.

theferret · Feb 5, 2013

Anyone banking on getting in the casino tonight, let alone getting served a beer, after about 6.30pm is being wildly optimistic.

Giving it a wide berth tonight, took me half an hour to get served the last time I was in there, and the gate was 10,000. Shall be in Cherry Tree tonight, but don't imagine that'll be much better. Not complaining though - this is all good.

MusicDating · Feb 5, 2013

theferret said:
Anyone banking on getting in the casino tonight, let alone getting served a beer, after about 6.30pm is being wildly optimistic.

Giving it a wide berth tonight, took me half an hour to get served the last time I was in there, and the gate was 10,000. Shall be in Cherry Tree tonight, but don't imagine that'll be much better. Not complaining though - this is all good.

You're a ferret, the bar staff never see you down there...

hill83 · Feb 5, 2013

theferret said:
Anyone banking on getting in the casino tonight, let alone getting served a beer, after about 6.30pm is being wildly optimistic.

Giving it a wide berth tonight, took me half an hour to get served the last time I was in there, and the gate was 10,000. Shall be in Cherry Tree tonight, but don't imagine that'll be much better. Not complaining though - this is all good.

This. Service is complete shite in there when it's a 5000 attendance.
I'll be starting in my local in Earlsdon than a quick taxi to the Wheatsheaf.

shropshirecov · Feb 5, 2013

Been in a few times and the service is shocking. Wouldn't bother.

MichaelCCFC · Feb 5, 2013

Donnie Brasco said:
And in the twelve months (?) that the trust has been going has it contributed to any of the things that you mention? It's all a bit corporate for me. The stuff spouted by anyone within the trust seems too much like that from SISU when things were really bad. It just seems that the trust don't do anything but have lots of fancy words when you ask what they do.

Donnie - The Trust represents the views of its members. The purpose of publishing the proposed mission statement and aims is to get people to add ideas and suggestions. So your views on what the aims should be and what achievements the Trust should be looking for would be very welcome.

Steve.B50 · Feb 5, 2013

I will be there Michael.
Will be a busy one but am going to attend.

covcity4life · Feb 5, 2013

ive always got a drink around 2pm quite easily...

Donnie Brasco · Feb 5, 2013

MichaelCCFC said:
Donnie - The Trust represents the views of its members. The purpose of publishing the proposed mission statement and aims is to get people to add ideas and suggestions. So your views on what the aims should be and what achievements the Trust should be looking for would be very welcome.

My view is that I would like success on the pitch. I couldn't give a monkeys about anything else. Whilst we are having success on the pitch there is nothing that I need to do/suggest.

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