shy_tall_knight
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Since the return to the Ricoh i'm not sure what the SBT does, rarely comments on anything such as today's result in court
sky blues trust - what do they do (2 Viewers)
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letsallsingtogether
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Well Steve from the trust was on the radio last night.
Nick
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Graham torrington?
letsallsingtogether
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6-7 sports review.
Took the place of the AN Phone in covers all local sport.
torchomatic
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Nick
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Doesn't really need a guess.
No, quite right. He is hardly going to say keep fighting the dastardly council is he? Who would say more than "enough is enough" - apart from maybe SISU? Whether you are convinced that the council acted wrongly or not, the people who know the law and who have the facts, have ruled strongly against SISU's case. Tim's "wrong in law and wrong in fact" quote was in fact wrong in itself - according to the interpreters of the law and the facts that they had to make their judgement.
If SISU are to be seen as serious business people, they have to take this on the chin and move on. JR2 will be more of the same and only piss off more people. People who should otherwise be won over be SISU's future business plan - should it ever emerge. Or, if SISU want at some point to sell up, the club would probably bring more if there were no outstanding battles to be fought. Improvements on the pitch, in management, attendances, etc., would be enhanced by the value of "goodwill" in the city where the asset ( club ) plays.
shy_tall_knight
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I'm no SISU supporter defender but I want the SBT to be more visible than just their anti SISU post, move the debate forward, where is the club truely going as a long term tenant to WASPS the unfairness of the WASPS deal to CCFC (the club/fans) CCC / WASPS have a duty to help. Seems to me its just anti - SISU and far too cosy to CCC & WASPS
shy_tall_knight
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I hope this is not true, WASPS represent a huge risk to eroding our fan base especially the casual fan (not football casual 80s style) whilst we are in the third division their events can be seen as so much more significant, national radio and TV coverage, WSSPS slicker marketing.
Nick
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That's what I was getting at when I said it isn't hard to guess.
The only time anything is heard is when it is about a court case or SISU.
Looking through the website, there is a love in with Northampton, talking about meetings with anderson, talking about waggot leaving.
Nothing about the positive stuff from the club, the ticketing move for example to get away from the old dog shit system.
Haven't looked at many other trust websites, the ones I have seen are a lot more pro active with football.
Just having a quick look at forum and felt I would log on and add my bit for what its worth.
Firstly I might be missing something but I do not understand the comment from Nick "Graham Torrington" ?
Personally I feel the Trust has moved on and although we all have personal views we are trying to work with the club, yet be critical and ask questions when they are required.
What I will confirm is that we are ready and able to step things up if we are needed, the Trust maybe quiet at present but we are very much alive.
We are heading up the transport issues, we have a working group looking at ways of helping supporters get to the Ricoh be it by bus, public transport or the saga of the train station. Its obvious that the club does not have the staff or money to do much about these problems and its something that the Trust can try and help with.
Firstly I might be missing something but I do not understand the comment from Nick "Graham Torrington" ?
Personally I feel the Trust has moved on and although we all have personal views we are trying to work with the club, yet be critical and ask questions when they are required.
What I will confirm is that we are ready and able to step things up if we are needed, the Trust maybe quiet at present but we are very much alive.
We are heading up the transport issues, we have a working group looking at ways of helping supporters get to the Ricoh be it by bus, public transport or the saga of the train station. Its obvious that the club does not have the staff or money to do much about these problems and its something that the Trust can try and help with.
Nick
Administrator
It was a joke about Graham torrington, last said you were on the radio last night... Never mind
Step things up in what way? I guess a protest? Or a get your arses to the ricoh to support your team, the players and manager (not the owners) to try and drive then on to promotion?
What about raising money for city fans etc? Great things like sending coaches round old peoples homes to get the old boys out for the day. I'd be more than happy to throw money into things like that.
Step things up in what way? I guess a protest? Or a get your arses to the ricoh to support your team, the players and manager (not the owners) to try and drive then on to promotion?
What about raising money for city fans etc? Great things like sending coaches round old peoples homes to get the old boys out for the day. I'd be more than happy to throw money into things like that.
Ian1779
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I don't think the Trust demonstrates enough that it wants what is best for CCFC. I think as well they over the last 3/4 years they have shown that personal interest and personal vendetta is more of a priority for some of the people in the more senior positions at the Trust. The love in with Hoffman/AN Other during the admin saga was shameful and did a lot to damage its reputation. They and SISU have no working relationship now - which is the fault of both parties. It just means the fan don't really have a medium to communicate to the club with as a result.
I'm sure there are some things they are doing that are positive and good... But we don't ever see about them.
We are stuck with the current owners until they choose to leave. IMO the Trust should challenge the club on their long term plan and their progress towards it, as well as challenge the local council to demonstrate where they can support aswell. They should not however be interacting with Wasps on any level.
I'm sure there are some things they are doing that are positive and good... But we don't ever see about them.
We are stuck with the current owners until they choose to leave. IMO the Trust should challenge the club on their long term plan and their progress towards it, as well as challenge the local council to demonstrate where they can support aswell. They should not however be interacting with Wasps on any level.
Moff
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Steve, first and foremost thanks for coming on to explain, and for your time with the SBT. I am not part of the set up so you certainly give more than I do.
As you know coming on the forum, sometimes you will get unfair criticism, sometimes it may be objective. You will never please everybody.
In my opinion everything you have said sounds good and fair enough, but forgive me if I am wrong, but I think possibly a failing is in your PR, in that this message doesn't always get out to fans and perhaps we are not always fully aware of what you are doing or achieving. Is there the opportunity for this to be improved or is it already right out there?
CJ_covblaze
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Hi Moff. Cheers for the feedback. One of the things we don't have on our board is an expert in PR. If anyone has that expertise and wants to help out or take an active role I'd personally welcome their contribution.
chiefdave
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letsallsingtogether
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Well both Sisu and the council have professional PR people in place.......
Fat lot of good it's done them.
What people forget is the trust is just made up of every day normal football supporters.
Broken Hearted Sky Blue
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Personal interests and vendetta? Oh you mean like taking time off to see Tim and Joy or like paying out of their own pockets to buy a ticket for Anderson to sit with them in block 16 to meet the fans and listen to them. Or maybe when they give them ideas or advice on how to get the fans on board. Sometimes they listen sometimes they don't
Nick
Administrator
I don't know, weber shandwick got some good help didn't they
Broken Hearted Sky Blue
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I don't know, weber shandwick got some good help didn't they
Who from?
Nick
Administrator
Supporters direct wasn't it, whoever they are. Saying to target her house, very strange.
Broken Hearted Sky Blue
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I have seen that a number of times on here but in all my involvement in demos etc never heard it mentioned.
letsallsingtogether
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Funny thing the only time I ever heard about targeting her house, came from a poster on here won't mention his name.
So that should have read SBTalk not Trust.
Many thanks for for your comment, but taking flack is part of the job.
Point taken about the PR, it is something we are aware of and trying to work on.
Anyone who knows me is aware I am always happy to try and answer questions.
Moff
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I didn't forget that the Trust are made up of every day football supporters, and I raised an objective point about PR. I wasn't suggesting anything professional, that is what you brought up.
Surely there isn't anything wrong about asking the Trust if there is a better way of getting their message out, or of trying to find out a way to let fans know what they are doing and what is going on. The point was made to stop unwarranted criticism of them. I thought you would have welcomed that.