skybluetony176
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That's true. If we weren't all so fickle and cynical we'd be cruising in the premier league now.
SLADE OUT!! (2 Viewers)
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That's true. If we weren't all so fickle and cynical we'd be cruising in the premier league now.
Chip Batch
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So it's still Mowbray's fault? Not one of the two blokes since him? Not one of the umpteen blokes before him that haven't been able to produce a team to get us up the leagues?
I keep saying it, but it can't be possible that every manager we ever employ is shit. Leadership and behaviours in any football club or buisiness you care to mention comes right from the top. We're one of the worst run clubs in the football league.
Always starts the same on here - people are pleased when a new manager comes in as if he will do this and that to turn it all around. By the time he leaves or is sacked, he's written off forever as if he was always a useless wanker and why did we ever employ him. Seems a very simplistic view to take.
And to defend Mowbray, he might have been a big part of the summer recruitment cock-up, but he got us playing the best football I've seen from us since being relegated from the premier league. We should have got promoted really, but the reliance on young, inexperienced players meant we couldn't cope when their form dropped. That and two key injuries at centre half.
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NortonSkyBlue
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My post was aimed at the CovCity4life but I take your point and in response I accept when you say that fans take a simplistic view. Good results equals good manager and shit results equals Russell Slade, however it doesn't tell the whole story does it? Some were asking for league one specialist and by god did we get one!
Although I agree with your comments changing the Manager will achieve very little.
Our owners only do things on the cheap and we all know they just do not care.
Nothing will change at our club with Fisher and SISU at the helm, we are Doomed!
higgs
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The damage was done in the summer recruitment drive let's be honest you need men to get out of this division. Slade is playing catch up if we had him since start of season with his own players in I would at the very least expect survival. This is a very different scenario while we are playing ugly football under him we are not getting hammered by teams and if we can start to sneak a few 1-0 wins we might get back in touch with safety but the real job is in the summer do we keep slade for a promotion push out of league 2
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oucho
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I thought Slade was a great appointment but 2 points from 5 games is clearly a big worry now. It wasn't so bad after the Bolton game when we'd just missed out on two wins in a row. I fear that the squad's boost in confidence from the performances against P'boro and Bolton may will have dissipated with the two subsequent defeats.
I wasn't at the game yesterday but some of those who were tell me that there was no fight in the team. If that's true, and they've stopped believing and instead are simply going through the motions, that's unforgivable and we're down. Once belief is gone, it's very hard to recapture. A new manager can insipre confidence but we're hardly going to sack the bloke after 5-6 games in the hope of another "new manager bounce" when we didn't get one last time. My strong thought is, then, that Slade will be with us until May regardless.
Some fans have moaned about the long ball tactics and also players played out of position. I don't mind that really; he's trying something difference, which God knows we need. If we play long ball and nick some wins, you won't hear much moaning. He's choosing a tactic and going with it. OK, so it doesn't seem to suit the players, but neither has anything else this season. He doesn't know before kick-off that we'd lose playing long ball, so he is within his rights to try. A loss is a loss, regardless of how pretty the football is. We knew he was going to try to muscle us out of trouble when he arrived, and signing the likes of Clarke and Beavon pointed towards that, so it seems odd for fans to moan about it.
Perhaps Vernam will turn out to be the new Armstrong, perhaps Diakite/McCormack will boss the midfield and free Jones/Rose to tear through teams, perhaps our current team will hit some form. But it is looking increasingly unlikely. We need a huge, immediate and consistent turnaround; we need a game-changer and it's hard to see it happening, though, if it does, the belief level of the squad could rise again and we can yet power out of this mess.
If we do go down I wouldn't automatically call for Slade's head. I want to see him instill some fight and belief in the team. If we go down fighting, we will at least have preserved some dignity. If the squad waves the white flag, that's unforgivable. The ship was sinking long before RS arrived and if he does at least give us a chance, steadying a sinking ship, we'll at least have some encouragement that it won't all be the same again next season in League Two.
I wasn't at the game yesterday but some of those who were tell me that there was no fight in the team. If that's true, and they've stopped believing and instead are simply going through the motions, that's unforgivable and we're down. Once belief is gone, it's very hard to recapture. A new manager can insipre confidence but we're hardly going to sack the bloke after 5-6 games in the hope of another "new manager bounce" when we didn't get one last time. My strong thought is, then, that Slade will be with us until May regardless.
Some fans have moaned about the long ball tactics and also players played out of position. I don't mind that really; he's trying something difference, which God knows we need. If we play long ball and nick some wins, you won't hear much moaning. He's choosing a tactic and going with it. OK, so it doesn't seem to suit the players, but neither has anything else this season. He doesn't know before kick-off that we'd lose playing long ball, so he is within his rights to try. A loss is a loss, regardless of how pretty the football is. We knew he was going to try to muscle us out of trouble when he arrived, and signing the likes of Clarke and Beavon pointed towards that, so it seems odd for fans to moan about it.
Perhaps Vernam will turn out to be the new Armstrong, perhaps Diakite/McCormack will boss the midfield and free Jones/Rose to tear through teams, perhaps our current team will hit some form. But it is looking increasingly unlikely. We need a huge, immediate and consistent turnaround; we need a game-changer and it's hard to see it happening, though, if it does, the belief level of the squad could rise again and we can yet power out of this mess.
If we do go down I wouldn't automatically call for Slade's head. I want to see him instill some fight and belief in the team. If we go down fighting, we will at least have preserved some dignity. If the squad waves the white flag, that's unforgivable. The ship was sinking long before RS arrived and if he does at least give us a chance, steadying a sinking ship, we'll at least have some encouragement that it won't all be the same again next season in League Two.
steve82
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Slade out..., seriously??
So the man can change a whole calendar year of doom and gloom can he in a month!
Can he seriously make the players who've we've said are not up to it, too weak and not fit for league one heros in a few weeks with of training?
Can he find the goals that we've missed this season with the same players who ain't done it yet this season.
Get a grip... our squad needs a Summer to clear the decks not a January transfers window to find frees and out of favour players and transform our pathetic season of recruitment and results.
The man said it would be tough, sometimes we'd need to play ugly if we're to survive, we're still missing a goal scorer remember and players suitable to do the job.
Yesterday while it was poor we matched up Fleetwood 352 To cope with the very quick, tricky and powerful amari Bell. Willis had to do that job... DKE was the only other option. Look at the tools... had to make shift to get by and without the goal scorer it was nearly a point with a clean sheet. That team yesterday still had many frailties but there is still more loans to come. You cannot find the solution overnight especially here at ccfc.
How can you complain he did use his subs at the right time... look at our bench, where's your game changers there? We've nothing.... yet. Throwing Rose up front proved we desperately need a target man... a goal scorer and Turnbull out the side. Players need to look up more and select there passes forwards not just aimlessly lumping forwards, they played like a side with little confidence. If we can just find a lucky 3 points...
Players themselves need to stand up and look at what they are giving the badge...
So the man can change a whole calendar year of doom and gloom can he in a month!
Can he seriously make the players who've we've said are not up to it, too weak and not fit for league one heros in a few weeks with of training?
Can he find the goals that we've missed this season with the same players who ain't done it yet this season.
Get a grip... our squad needs a Summer to clear the decks not a January transfers window to find frees and out of favour players and transform our pathetic season of recruitment and results.
The man said it would be tough, sometimes we'd need to play ugly if we're to survive, we're still missing a goal scorer remember and players suitable to do the job.
Yesterday while it was poor we matched up Fleetwood 352 To cope with the very quick, tricky and powerful amari Bell. Willis had to do that job... DKE was the only other option. Look at the tools... had to make shift to get by and without the goal scorer it was nearly a point with a clean sheet. That team yesterday still had many frailties but there is still more loans to come. You cannot find the solution overnight especially here at ccfc.
How can you complain he did use his subs at the right time... look at our bench, where's your game changers there? We've nothing.... yet. Throwing Rose up front proved we desperately need a target man... a goal scorer and Turnbull out the side. Players need to look up more and select there passes forwards not just aimlessly lumping forwards, they played like a side with little confidence. If we can just find a lucky 3 points...
Players themselves need to stand up and look at what they are giving the badge...
COVKIDSNEVERQUIT
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The damage was done when SISU and Fisher started asset stripping, ie Dann and Fox !!! :rage:
