So overall the JS statement positive or negative (1 Viewer)

georgehudson · Sep 26, 2013

overall, negative for me, she also confirmed that unless she gets her way 100% it's a non-mover,
something many of us knew before the start of the 11/12 season,
as mentioned in an earlier post, a shame that she hasn't sacked TF, & more astounding that she thinks he's doing a great job,

theferret · Sep 26, 2013

duffer said:
Not sure about that - Brandon Stadium was refused PP for a Sunday market by Rugby Borough Council. Not sure that's a metropolitan borough.

Warwick County Council also have planning powers. https://planning.warwickshire.gov.uk/swiftlg/apas/run/Wchweeklylist.displayPlanningLists

Ultimately, as said elsewhere, with developments as contentious as football grounds it's likely to go through a number of stages taking years. Shrewsbury, quoted in the JS interview as seemingly an 'easy' build, started the planning process in 1999. Build finished in 2007/8 as I recall.

Negative, btw, overwhelmingly negative, Unless her sudden arrival indicates that SISU are feeling the heat, I can't see that the two sides aren't further apart than ever.

Warwickshire CC have no planning powers. It says that clearly on the link you posted:

"This website only contains details of Minerals and Waste applications made to Warwickshire County Council, and the County Council’s own applications. For other types of planning applications such as residential, industrial or commercial developments, please contact the relevant District or Borough Council."

Also, I'm pretty sure FP was refering to the likes of Rugby Borough Council when he mentioned 'metropolitan boroughs'. We wouldn't want to get pedantic now would we

The Reverend Skyblue · Sep 26, 2013

georgehudson said:
overall, negative for me, she also confirmed that unless she gets her way 100% it's a non-mover,
something many of us knew before the start of the 11/12 season,
as mentioned in an earlier post, a shame that she hasn't sacked TF, & more astounding that she thinks he's doing a great job,

I agree George overall negative

torchomatic · Sep 26, 2013

Yes, I'm amazed that she backed Fisher. If you want to do something you know is going to be unpopular at least get someone likeable to deliver the message.

torchomatic · Sep 26, 2013

YEs, it's the District council who deal with PA:

http://www.warwickdc.gov.uk/WDC/Planning/

theferret said:
Warwickshire CC have no planning powers. It says that clearly on the link you posted:

"This website only contains details of Minerals and Waste applications made to Warwickshire County Council, and the County Council’s own applications. For other types of planning applications such as residential, industrial or commercial developments, please contact the relevant District or Borough Council."

Also, I'm pretty sure FP was refering to the likes of Rugby Borough Council when he mentioned 'metropolitan boroughs'. We wouldn't want to get pedantic now would we

torchomatic · Sep 26, 2013

And the other respective district and borough councils,of course.

theferret · Sep 26, 2013

I was left a little cold by the interview. Lot's of stuff I expected, and lots I agreed with, but I was surprised at the language used in reference to the council. No sign of an olive branch, not even an olive. We are not going back to the Ricoh, that much is clear.

Moff · Sep 26, 2013

theferret said:
No sign of an olive branch, .

Wasnt she married to Reg, on 'On the Buses'

valiant15 · Sep 26, 2013

So no games in Coventry for at least another 4.5 years? There's no way the council will sell to sisu.

I think most of us will have moved on by then.

Nsgdm1 · Sep 26, 2013

The only reason she agreed to this interview is hoping to change some minds to increase crowds at Sixfields ,it stinks of an act of desperation ,crowds are way lower than they thought,and despite the great football being played they are not increasing, she has finally realised that her and her pet lapdog Timmy have dug a hole they can't get out of ,this was no more than a spin excersise to try and get revenue ,they are hoping that after this interview ,fans will think there is no option and SISU are not the scum people think they are and the fans will start trickling back .

theferret · Sep 26, 2013

Moff said:
Wasnt she married to Reg, on 'On the Buses'

I hate you Butler...

Pete in Portugal · Sep 26, 2013

Overall negative, in spite of one or two positive points. It's clear there little or no prospect of a return to Ricoh, and this is a big negative for me. And as for her answer about the big reduction in FFP next season, because of small crowds at Sixfields, she must be joking! How on earth will that apply to all the other clubs? :facepalm:

Voice_of_Reason · Sep 26, 2013

My overall impression is that Ms JS is playing "politics" -- to say SISU will never come back to the Ricoh unless they own it is all part of SISU's "strategy" in my opinion. No business person would say "never" - the options to change directions all depends on circumstances at any given time. JS was not reassuring at all as many fans will take what she says at face value. Funding is still not guaranteed, there are no plans to build a new stadium at the moment which Otium would own outright (it would be rented to them by SISU), revenue streams would be limited compared to the Ricoh (remember the Compass contract runs out at the Ricoh in 2015)... not impressed at all JS !

duffer · Sep 26, 2013

theferret said:
Warwickshire CC have no planning powers. It says that clearly on the link you posted:

"This website only contains details of Minerals and Waste applications made to Warwickshire County Council, and the County Council’s own applications. For other types of planning applications such as residential, industrial or commercial developments, please contact the relevant District or Borough Council."

Also, I'm pretty sure FP was refering to the likes of Rugby Borough Council when he mentioned 'metropolitan boroughs'. We wouldn't want to get pedantic now would we

Good spot, and fair point. If I can't get pedantic then what the hell else am I going to do, talk about football?

Snozz_is_god · Sep 26, 2013

Nsgdm1 said:
The only reason she agreed to this interview is hoping to change some minds to increase crowds at Sixfields ,it stinks of an act of desperation ,crowds are way lower than they thought,and despite the great football being played they are not increasing, she has finally realised that her and her pet lapdog Timmy have dug a hole they can't get out of ,this was no more than a spin excersise to try and get revenue ,they are hoping that after this interview ,fans will think there is no option and SISU are not the scum people think they are and the fans will start trickling back .

Exactly.......

Snozz_is_god · Sep 26, 2013

It's all spin to try and convince the wavering fans to come 'back to Northampton' and watch the team.

If the thread is anything to go by, she's once again misjudged the fans, their understanding of the situation & their resolve.

James Smith · Sep 26, 2013

Fairly negative for me as it confirmed that the club lied to me again, when they denied that JS had gone into the ownership meeting and demanded the Ricoh freehold without negotiation. Although it is nice to finally hear something from her, it is a bit late in the day to start talking to/engaging with the fans.

stupot07 · Sep 26, 2013

Some interesting points, some positive and some negative.

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Godiva · Sep 26, 2013

I was dissapointed, so I guess that's a negative from me.

She really needs to sack that PR company she's taking advice from.
Joy - send me a mail. I will be happy to draw up a communication plan for free!

In the mean time, here's a few advices:

Here's my first advice: Tell the whole sad story from the point sisu walked from Southamton to Coventry. Lay it out raw and don't explain too much, just tell it as it happened and the reasoning behind.

Here's my second advice: Tell us about the whole rent strike adventure. The reasoning behind it, how involved were CCc and ACL, what was agreed and with whom. Tell us what exactly caused the wheels to come off and how you reacted. Don't be afraid to admit mistakes and failures - that will make you human, which you are not in the eyes of many fans.

Here's my third advice: Tell us exactly what your terms are for going back to the Ricoh. Don't leave anything out, don't mask figures, don't sugarcoat 'your offer'.

Here's my fourth advice: Tell us the financing model of a new stadium. Don't put it simple for all to understand, we have our own experts to explain the mechanics. Tell us if the new stadium will be owned by a company inside or outside the SBS&L group and in any case how it will benefit the club. Surely you will by now have a rough breakdown of building, financing and operational budgets - let us have them raw, we have our own forensic accountants ready to dissect and explain.

Here's my fifth advice: If, for any reason, you feel some of the details needs to be kept hidden, then at least invite a few leading members of the Trust, let them sign a NDA and them give them the details. Have them draft a summarize that they can publish after you have made sure no sensible commercial details are exposed.

Here's my sixth advice: Get the fans involved in the club going forward. Use the Trust.

stupot07 · Sep 26, 2013

James Smith said:
Fairly negative for me as it confirmed that the club lied to me again, when they denied that JS had gone into the ownership meeting and demanded the Ricoh freehold without negotiation. Although it is nice to finally hear something from her, it is a bit late in the day to start talking to/engaging with the fans.

Where did it say that?

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CCFCChadders · Sep 26, 2013

Negative. Totally turned her back on our history and tradition. The supposed new stadium out of coventry city (when and if it is eventually built) will mark our future as a league 1 team at best.

ohitsaidwalker king power · Sep 26, 2013

Godiva said:
I was dissapointed, so I guess that's a negative from me.

She really needs to sack that PR company she's taking advice from.
Joy - send me a mail. I will be happy to draw up a communication plan for free!

In the mean time, here's a few advices:

Here's my first advice: Tell the whole sad story from the point sisu walked from Southamton to Coventry. Lay it out raw and don't explain too much, just tell it as it happened and the reasoning behind.

Here's my second advice: Tell us about the whole rent strike adventure. The reasoning behind it, how involved were CCc and ACL, what was agreed and with whom. Tell us what exactly caused the wheels to come off and how you reacted. Don't be afraid to admit mistakes and failures - that will make you human, which you are not in the eyes of many fans.

Here's my third advice: Tell us exactly what your terms are for going back to the Ricoh. Don't leave anything out, don't mask figures, don't sugarcoat 'your offer'.

Here's my fourth advice: Tell us the financing model of a new stadium. Don't put it simple for all to understand, we have our own experts to explain the mechanics. Tell us if the new stadium will be owned by a company inside or outside the SBS&L group and in any case how it will benefit the club. Surely you will by now have a rough breakdown of building, financing and operational budgets - let us have them raw, we have our own forensic accountants ready to dissect and explain.

Here's my fifth advice: If, for any reason, you feel some of the details needs to be kept hidden, then at least invite a few leading members of the Trust, let them sign a NDA and them give them the details. Have them draft a summarize that they can publish after you have made sure no sensible commercial details are exposed.

Here's my sixth advice: Get the fans involved in the club going forward. Use the Trust.

And a seventh... equal to the deadly sins.....:blue:

simple_simon · Sep 26, 2013

It was a load of PR rubbish.
LR had the chance to push her big time and failed.

Snozz_is_god · Sep 26, 2013

simple_simon said:
It was a load of PR rubbish.
LR had the chance to push her big time and failed.

Quite frankly I'm less than impressed with LR, just a local newspaper reporter who's trying to make a name for himself & has been 'used' by JS to push her propaganda.

well JS it failed & LR failed with her

theferret · Sep 26, 2013

Out of interest, would a stadium built at the point marked on the map really signal the end of CCFC? Are we all that hung up by imaginary lines? An outsider not overly concerned with administrative boundaries in the greater Coventry region would just see it as a ground on the edge of Coventry. A bit like the Ricoh really.

skybluetony176 · Sep 26, 2013

theferret said:
Out of interest, would a stadium built at the point marked on the map really signal the end of CCFC? Are we all that hung up by imaginary lines? An outsider not overly concerned with administrative boundaries in the greater Coventry region would just see it as a ground on the edge of Coventry. A bit like the Ricoh really.

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god damn it man, Coventry already has a cathedral to spare and we don't want to change the song.

theferret · Sep 26, 2013

skybluetony176 said:
god damn it man, Coventry already has a cathedral to spare and we don't want to change the song.

Don't worry, there aren't enough syllables. Not that it has stopped us before. I especially liked how we used to sing Di-on Dion Dub-a-lin. Genius.

Steve.B50 · Sep 26, 2013

Snozz_is_god said:
Quite frankly I'm less than impressed with LR, just a local newspaper reporter who's trying to make a name for himself & has been 'used' by JS to push her propaganda.

well JS it failed & LR failed with her

Have to agree, he could have made a name for himself, but in my view he failed miserably.

No future with SISU · Sep 26, 2013

Negative, she has not given a long interview in 6 years of ownership of the SKY BLUES, seppla is on the run support the team away from home and not at sixfields. The best bit of the interview was "Its something we would relish. Its a dream." She was talking of the building of the new stadium and it is just a dream.

Tonylinc · Sep 26, 2013

For me the interview was less than impressive. I took from it that the club would never return to the city and that a "new sparkling", stadium would ever be built. For those of you that are regular uses of E-Bay; look out for, "Business for sale.....Relocatable".

No future with SISU · Sep 26, 2013

Joy has refused to give the BBC an interview.

ohitsaidwalker king power · Sep 26, 2013

No future with SISU said:
Joy has refused to give the BBC an interview.

Ii is easier to "hide" behind the written word.... easier to control what is printed/stated-filter and proof read. Public interviews expose weaknesses like no other, unable to control body language, emotions and human failings.

Flying Fokker · Sep 26, 2013

WiganSkyBlue said:
Just leaves me thinking that the chance of the team returning to Coventry, or even the area, is becoming more remote. She knows nothing of football by her own admission, nor does she seem to care about the fans, so if it suits she will liquidate us, and not give it a second thought.

Them, not us? Alienated fan base

Cheshire Sky Blue · Sep 26, 2013

:facepalm:On Balance, when you weigh up the pros and Cons of the article. Consider the impact it will have on global warming and how it will influence the X factor result, you have to say Fecking overwhelmingly neutral.:slap:

sky blue john · Sep 26, 2013

negative for me.
Interview if it really happened read like a statement that js probably wrote and then emailed to the ct. !!!!
Allegedly proven in court to be a liar so the words were not worth the paper they were written on !!!!

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