so to summarise (2 Viewers)

[Moff]

do you realise we adults can rant and rave (because we care) without nearly crying don't you?........and my point ,which you missed is that most of the people who feel this way no longer go as we refuse to give Sisu our hard earned money ....Still going does not make you a better (or worse) fan it means you handle in differently.....But I don't slag them off and they spent every waking hour on here name calling and ignoring what's happening in front of them,

If you are a fan for life I take it you would have been at Highfield Road in the 80's, when only 7499 turned up to watch us in a Division One (top league) game against Watford. There was no SISU or NOPM then. We get better attendances now.

The point I am making is, people will not go to games for a variety of reasons, and this changes through the years. I would say as many don't go now because of SISU as, as many didn't go then for other reasons. Some people will always find an excuse, whilst others will have understandable ones not linked to SISU or anyone else.

 

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[skybluedan]

afan4life needs 2changehisname

Abruceforlife

 

[Senior Vick from Alicante]

If you are a fan for life I take it you would have been at Highfield Road in the 80's, when only 7499 turned up to watch us in a Division One (top league) game against Watford. There was no SISU or NOPM then. We get better attendances now.

The point I am making is, people will not go to games for a variety of reasons, and this changes through the years. I would say as many don't go now because of SISU as, as many didn't go then for other reasons. Some people will always find an excuse, whilst others will have understandable ones not linked to SISU or anyone else.

Problems in the past Moff can't be classed as relevant to today's issues. People don't go because they don't get value and see the owners as the issue. They are the reason we are at this point, they are the ones that need to be transparent with the fans who's hard spent money is supporting their business. Why carry on investing your support or money if you think your being short changed. Its starting to get bitter for fans now because the owners treat people with disdain and the fan base is being eroded because of this. Personally I think if the lies and cloak and dagger crap continues crowds of 5k will be a reality in spite of any results on the pitch.

 

[Grendel]

Problems in the past Moff can't be classed as relevant to today's issues. People don't go because they don't get value and see the owners as the issue. They are the reason we are at this point, they are the ones that need to be transparent with the fans who's hard spent money is supporting their business. Why carry on investing your support or money if you think your being short changed. Its starting to get bitter for fans now because the owners treat people with disdain and the fan base is being eroded because of this. Personally I think if the lies and cloak and dagger crap continues crowds of 5k will be a reality in spite of any results on the pitch.

So if we made the play offs only 5,000 will turn up?

Can't see it myself.

 

[ccfcway]

So if we made the play offs only 5,000 will turn up?

Can't see it myself.

didn't he say "people don't go because they don't see value" ?. Why would only 5k go to league games, let alone play offs if we are top 6.

 

[Grendel]

didn't he say "people don't go because they don't see value" ?. Why would only 5k go to league games, let alone play offs if we are top 6.

No he said "in spite of any results on the pitch"

 

[letsallsingtogether]

Most are probably watching the game.

I had never heard anybody rant and nearly start crying until a couple of weeks ago.

I think he was just pointing out that you were talking shit..again...

So, about it being 1 or 2 people on here...?

So is that your opinion or are you making things up Nick.

 

[letsallsingtogether]

Many of the guys on here appear to be people with young kids and they are developing that Dad n Lad bond through the footie, they might see it different one day when/If their kids grow up and lose interest. I can see why some feel a need to keep it rolling and try and see some positives. I did it myself for 15 years with my kids and spent a fortune on all the tickets and attire etc. With those days gone and almost all of the crowd I went with having given up or moved away it's a real struggle motivating yourself to sit, often on your own in a cold 1/3rd full echo ridden arena.

I have also experienced the same took my lad who is now 21 to his first game in years last saturday my daughter is 26 and was also a regular also never goes.
My son and his 2 mates were season ticket holders for 6 years none of them bother much now.
1 hasn't been in over 5 years my son goes maybe twice a year..........
Can't blame him really at £25.00 it is a bit much for a student to pay,
ok I pay it but still can't blame him

 

[letsallsingtogether]

Didn't Sepalla say when we moved to Northampton and fan base vanished she was basically told by the investors enough is enough. If we carry on at this rate and loans and freebies the attendance will be similar. I for one pay over £500 plus vat and football isn't cheap and have had enough of this now. If it's the same way next season me and my old fella will throw in the towel. 23 years season ticket holders and enough is enough not enjoying it anymore. It is at the end of the day something you enjoy not turning up for the sake of it.
I don't know the answer but it feels as if we are all at breaking point.

Careful you will be accused of being a WUM or an attention seeker on here with views like that.
But got to admit maybe our last season also.
It is all getting very tiring now and don't want to do it anymore.

 

[Skyblueweeman]

Why the f&@k would any CCFC fan want to see us relegated?

That just defies all logic of being a fan of a team.

Extremely strange...


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[afan4life]

Why the f&@k would any CCFC fan want to see us relegated?

That just defies all logic of being a fan of a team.


Extremely strange...

Really? Okay let's try again
My belief is that under the current mismanagement we are dying a very very very slow and painful death and they don't care,as long as they can sell anybody that can create a fee regardless of how small the fee might be with the occasional diamond in the rough coming through like Madison...ker-ching ££££!.... with me so far?
So if it takes relegation (and it's off to a good start) to make the cancer leave the body it's ....in my opinion...a price worth paying
I want my club back

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[ajsccfc]

afan4life is 2angry2usequotescorrectly

 

[ceetee]

Why the f&@k would any CCFC fan want to see us relegated?

That just defies all logic of being a fan of a team.

Extremely strange...


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I think there are a few who just can not enjoy any success under the current owners

 

[Skyblueweeman]

I think there are a few who just can not enjoy any success under the current owners

Not sure I understand that but I do understand it more than wanting our club relegated. That's just mental.

 

[Rodders1]

Why the f&@k would any CCFC fan want to see us relegated?

That just defies all logic of being a fan of a team.

Extremely strange...


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I imagine he doesn't really want a relegation but sees that as the next possible step for SISU to lose interest. I can see his point. But I doubt they'll move on still.

There may be fans who hate SISU or say they are ok - but deep deep down if we could all vote them in or out, there would be a huge vote for them to leave.

Even if a replacement owner was less wealthy.

 

[ccfcway]

I think there are a few who just can not enjoy any success under the current owners

what success ?

 

[Colin Steins Smile]

what success ?

Success ....depends on whether you are the owners or fans? Currently, the owners ensure we continue to exist and that means a neutral budget. The level of football the club plays is irrelevant...if we are promoted, we must still run a neutral budget and vice versa. So, Division 2 or Non-League would mean the same. Success for the owners = continued operation without undue risk. Success for fans = Winning and promotion. Currently, the owners are operating a successful business, in their eyes.

 

[Grendel]

Success ....depends on whether you are the owners or fans? Currently, the owners ensure we continue to exist and that means a neutral budget. The level of football the club plays is irrelevant...if we are promoted, we must still run a neutral budget and vice versa. So, Division 2 or Non-League would mean the same. Success for the owners = continued operation without undue risk. Success for fans = Winning and promotion. Currently, the owners are operating a successful business, in their eyes.

It's not successful is it - it's neutral - that's not successful.

 

[Rusty Trombone]

It's not successful is it - it's neutral - that's not successful.

I don't believe there's any evidence of it even being neutral, either in cash terms or in terms of the profit and loss account (even excluding the interest).