What the actual fuck are you on about? In one of them 97 people were unlawfully killed, and definitely not by the other fans. In the other one, 39 fans were killed, due to the stupid actions of a small minority of liverpool fans, I’ll give you that. But why so many people let their bizarre prejudice against people from an area of the same part of the country as them (who happen to be the most genuine, kind people you could meet on the most part by the way) convince themselves 97 people dying at a football match isn’t a tragedy and was somehow their own fault I will never understandNo other club, fans, have killed so many people at two football matches.
What the actual fuck are you on about? In one of them 97 people were unlawfully killed, and definitely not by the other fans. In the other one, 39 fans were killed, due to the stupid actions of a small minority of liverpool fans, I’ll give you that. But why so many people let their bizarre prejudice against people from an area of the same part of the country as them (who happen to be the most genuine, kind people you could meet on the most part by the way) convince themselves 97 people dying at a football match isn’t a tragedy and was somehow their own fault I will never understand
I speak from experience about that terracing at Hillsborough two years prior in 87, we were allocated that end, myself, my brother and a friend had tickets for that terrace and as we walk through that tunnel and got to the end of the tunnel, I said oh my god, this is an accident just waiting to happen, so we immediately turn around and went back out of the terrace and stood high in the terracing by the corner flag, which is separate terracing from beyond the goal.
Ask ask yourself this, why was there no deaths that year?
On the point in the first para above I believe there were so many people going through the central tunnel once they opened the gate that it wasn’t possible for people to turn around once they went in.
Mate you don’t seem like a bad fella or actively trying to be disrespectful or anything so I’d just like to politely request you to watch this video and say that a neutral perspective of what happened that day was provided by a literal public enquiryThose who came later, why didn't they form an orderly queue and go through the turnstiles ?
Those in the tunnel, you said, couldn't turn round, no, but they could've stopped pushing, that's what caused the crushing isn't it ?
I noticed you never responded to my point " why did the Police open them gates "
I'm not trying to open old wounds I'm just looking at it from a neutral perspective of what happened that day.
Mate you don’t seem like a bad fella or actively trying to be disrespectful or anything so I’d just like to politely request you to watch this video and say that a neutral perspective of what happened that day was provided by a literal public enquiry
Hysel gets swept under the carpet. Never mentioned. For the Juventus supporters it's a tragedy as poignant as Hillsborough was to Liverpool supporters .Exactly.
Imagine the outcry and the injustice if it was another team that had done it.
They cry kick and scream about Hillsborough yet did the same at Hysel and never mention it.
Dirty scouse bast@rds.......
Whenever I hear that I think of Lee Mills."sign him up" about loan players.
I’m more of a Men Behind the Wire man myself.David O’Day used to sing this one all the time
The reason they opened the gate was because there was overcrowding outside the turnstiles and there were fears somebody would be crushed outside of the gate never mind inside because the police didn’t put the required queuing and staggering of the crowds in place as they normally would in the narrow bottleneck of the Leppings lane end, as the video explains. The police caused the issue and then opened the gate without dealing with where the people went once they got in and then covered up the fact they did this.On the CCTV footage you can quite clearly see the Liverpool fans pouring through the gates.
Did the Police ever say WHY they opened the gates?
You say you originated from Liverpool and have family members living in Liverpool, may I respectfully suggest it's your loyalty to the Liverpool fans that's blinding your judgment.
Out of respect I will leave it there.
Merry Christmas to you and your family.
Exactly that.Hysel gets swept under the carpet. Never mentioned. For the Juventus supporters it's a tragedy as poignant as Hillsborough was to Liverpool supporters .
No, it was always that bald headed midfielder who bossed the game for us at home to Swindon, in the most one sided 0-0 ( or 1-1) draw, you will ever see. Forgotten his name, but as soon as I post it will come to me ( ex- Wolves?)Whenever I hear that I think of Lee Mills.
Yes, H, we absolutely battered them from pillar to post for 90(+) minutes (Roy Wegerlie goal?) live on Sky too.No, it was always that bald headed midfielder who bossed the game for us at home to Swindon, in the most one sided 0-0 ( or 1-1) draw, you will ever see. Forgotten his name, but as soon as I post it will come to me ( ex- Wolves?)
Think we signed him on loan from Man U? But he ended up at Wolves after us.Yes, H, we absolutely battered them from pillar to post for 90(+) minutes (Roy Wegerlie goal?) live on Sky too.
Then in the final minute of added on time they conjured their only attack of the game - Down the right side towards the then building site that would become the East stand and had the audacity to score!
The midfielder I think you refer to was Chris Marsden - How we never signed him permanently is beyond me. (Think he had some off field 'habits'?)
Just reading your reply, and Chris Marsden's name popped into my head. Typical!Yes, H, we absolutely battered them from pillar to post for 90(+) minutes (Roy Wegerlie goal?) live on Sky too.
Then in the final minute of added on time they conjured their only attack of the game - Down the right side towards the then building site that would become the East stand and had the audacity to score!
The midfielder I think you refer to was Chris Marsden - How we never signed him permanently is beyond me. (Think he had some off field 'habits'?)
Very talented but ran like a duck.The midfielder I think you refer to was Chris Marsden - How we never signed him permanently is beyond me. (Think he had some off field 'habits'?)
Yes he did have a strange gait.Very talented but ran like a duck.
I do. It was a kind of lounge jazz version. (If there is such a thing?)Anyone else remember the cheesy big band / saxophones version of the Sky Blue Song they used to play over the loudspeakers as the team ran out onto the pitch? 1970's and probably into the 80's as well. Ended with a climactic baam-baam parp-parp.
He oscillated wildly.Yes he did have a strange gait.
I resemble that remark.He oscillated wildly.
Loan from HuddersfieldThink we signed him on loan from Man U? But he ended up at Wolves after us.
Chris Marsden? I remember that Swindon game, I think they scored in the last minute?No, it was always that bald headed midfielder who bossed the game for us at home to Swindon, in the most one sided 0-0 ( or 1-1) draw, you will ever see. Forgotten his name, but as soon as I post it will come to me ( ex- Wolves?)
They did. It was the last game that Marsden played for us whilst we buggered about trying to extend his loan so he joined Wolves instead, luckily for us we swooped in to sign Sandy RobertsonChris Marsden? I remember that Swindon game, I think they scored in the last minute?
And Dougie McGuire.They did. It was the last game that Marsden played for us whilst we buggered about trying to extend his loan so he joined Wolves instead, luckily for us we swooped in to sign Sandy Robertson
Dougie McGuire was 3 or 4 seasons earlierAnd Dougie McGuire.
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