Southport Stabbing (25 Viewers)

[Grendel]

FFS. Just when I think you can't get any worse you come out with even more shit. This cannot be laid at Labour's door.

no it can’t - but it has been said on here that 14 years of neglect of mental health services may be a factor - it isn’t

 

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[GIMOC]

if Labour had any back bone they would stop all boats immediately as risk to our security

but with her as our Home Secretary nothing will be challenged

 

[Saddlebrains]

I was the same with the Ariana Grande bombing. But for the tickets selling out there was a very real chance my two then very young daughters would’ve been there. I had been looking at resale a couple of weeks before. The thought of those innocent kids watching their favourite artist at a once in a lifetime gig and that happening. Took me out for the bulk of the day after.

I really don’t know what the answer is here. Was worried sick a couple of weeks ago when my daughter was on a school trip to France as feared the election could spurn some nutcases to rampage. Florida in a few weeks and worry some mass shooting at Disney could happen. It’s extreme situations but really, is it THAT rare these days? Worlds fucked.

Horrendous, and I'm so pleased that you decided not to take the plunge

This is the sad thing. This isn't the first time children have been targeted. And I fear it will not be the last

Children are the most innocent, kind and special people on this earth. When they are no longer safe something has to change.

My comment the other day about race riots happening? I seriously think today is another major step towards it. Thing is it won't be race riots. As I stated those of other ethnic backgrounds and religions are also tired of certain demographics who are not interested at all about Integrating

 

[PVA]

how? again all true. more hasn’t happened in 3 weeks than the last 3 months.

Labour will not crack down on any of this.

only time Labour mp have gone public on something was the Muslim kicked in the head

didn’t hear or any labour visiting the family or the soldier. Doubt a Labour mp will visit the families of the kids but a person breaking a policewoman nose and the labour Mp goes to their fuckin house to support them

it’s laughable

You really need to lay off the Internet for a bit.

 

[rob9872]

Atherton is a c**t. Right or wrong

I think 'c**t' is a bit strong. Always thought he was the weaker of the two being on the right ...




















.... but formed a great partnernership with Babb.

 

[GIMOC]

You really need to lay off the Internet for a bit.

Really. if anything showing quite a few up on here and you don’t like it

 

[PVA]

Really. if anything showing quite a few up on here and you don’t like it

You've been far more outraged at people not being angry enough and now bizarrely the party that's been in government for 5 mins than you are about some innocent children being killed.

It's fucking weird and you've been utterly brainwashed by Twitter freaks.

 

[Otis]

if Labour had any back bone they would stop all boats immediately as risk to our security

but with her as our Home Secretary nothing will be challenged

Like the Tories stopped the boats you mean?

 

[Otis]

Really. if anything showing quite a few up on here and you don’t like it

You're showing yourself up unfortunately.

Most are being very rational and reasoned.

 

[clint van damme]

Don't know how credible they are, again I have just come across it

David Atherton is a bullshitting shit stirrer, and that's been kind, so I'd wait for a more reliable source ifI was you.

 

[nicksar]

Horrendous, and I'm so pleased that you decided not to take the plunge

This is the sad thing. This isn't the first time children have been targeted. And I fear it will not be the last

Children are the most innocent, kind and special people on this earth. When they are no longer safe something has to change.

My comment the other day about race riots happening? I seriously think today is another major step towards it. Thing is it won't be race riots. As I stated those of other ethnic backgrounds and religions are also tired of certain demographics who are not interested at all about Integrating

Horrendous doesn't even cover it,I was at my youngest Granddaughter's 5th birthday party on Friday her sister and five other little girls from her infant school were there, picturing their happy faces on Friday and imagining what the parents of the Southport children are feeling.....welling up tbh.

 

[Jamesimus]

if Labour had any back bone they would stop all boats immediately as risk to our security

but with her as our Home Secretary nothing will be challenged

 

[Alkhen]

Really. if anything showing quite a few up on here and you don’t like it

You really are thick. Your post about Labour came after you claim you aren't point scoring

14 years of running every service into the ground had nothing to do with it then

Chemtrail loser

 

[Otis]

Horrendous doesn't even cover it,I was at my youngest Granddaughter's 5th birthday party on Friday her sister and five other little girls from her infant school were there, picturing their happy faces on Friday and imagining what the parents of the Southport children are feeling.....welling up tbh.

Something needs to be done for sure, but I don't know what exactly and it will take time and great effort.

People carrying knives is a huge problem.

Nonsensical stuff like immediately close all the borders, is both ridiculous and really unhelpful.

 

[Alan Dugdales Moustache]

Horrendous, and I'm so pleased that you decided not to take the plunge

This is the sad thing. This isn't the first time children have been targeted. And I fear it will not be the last

Children are the most innocent, kind and special people on this earth. When they are no longer safe something has to change.

My comment the other day about race riots happening? I seriously think today is another major step towards it. Thing is it won't be race riots. As I stated those of other ethnic backgrounds and religions are also tired of certain demographics who are not interested at all about Integrating

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When nothing is done to stop what everyone recognises is a serious issue then eventually people take it upon themselves to act.

 

[Como]

Anyone else loving the Diversity?

 

[Otis]

I've noticed a shift in the last year or so. More people are speaking out on this subject .
When nothing is done to stop what everyone recognises is a serious issue then eventually people take it upon themselves to act.

That's my worry. I can see vigilantism being a real thing on the streets, very soon if this carries on.

 

[Diogenes]

Horrendous, and I'm so pleased that you decided not to take the plunge

This is the sad thing. This isn't the first time children have been targeted. And I fear it will not be the last

Children are the most innocent, kind and special people on this earth. When they are no longer safe something has to change.

My comment the other day about race riots happening? I seriously think today is another major step towards it. Thing is it won't be race riots. As I stated those of other ethnic backgrounds and religions are also tired of certain demographics who are not interested at all about Integrating

There were race riots back in the late 90s at my secondary school. It felt back then like the lid was ready to come off at any time.

I have no idea how we are a 1/4 century on and the pot hasn't boiled over yet.

I'm glad it hasn't - but it will come. And it will be a huge shock to a lot of people.

I wish it weren't so, but things just seem inevitable.

 

[Saddlebrains]

I've noticed a shift in the last year or so. More people are speaking out on this subject .
When nothing is done to stop what everyone recognises is a serious issue then eventually people take it upon themselves to act.

This is it

I think its becoming clear that even those who may have been quite liberal in the past, normal folk like most of us, cannot deny there are issues now

It's undeniable that unchecked immigration is leading to heinous crimes like today. It's undeniable that the amount of immigration, legal and non legal is one of the forces on the housing system, the judicial system, the health service, civil service.

And it's undeniable that as I say a certain number of people are coming into this country and doing what the fuck they like, how they like, when they like, have no intention of integrating and I think the common working person of this country is about done with being told its all ok

 

[Nick]

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When nothing is done to stop what everyone recognises is a serious issue then eventually people take it upon themselves to act.

Thats what I mean about not having anybody really listen or politically it's Farage. Nothing in the middle where you can have an issue with some bits of immigration without being called a right wing racist.

 

[Liquid Gold]

Something needs to be done for sure, but I don't know what exactly and it will take time and great effort.

People carrying knives is a huge problem.

Nonsensical stuff like immediately close all the borders, is both ridiculous and really unhelpful.

I think we need to have a conversation on what offences do we actually want to lock people up for and what can be fixed in the community or even legalised.

I personally don’t think anybody should be in prison for possession of small amounts of drugs. Send them to an addiction prevention course and get on with things.

We need to focus on people carrying out or being prepared to carry out (by possessing weapons for example) violent crime.

We definitely need to clamp down on illegal immigration but the way to do that is by properly processing legal asylum claims and that isn’t popular with a lot of people.

 

[Otis]

Thats what I mean about not having anybody really listen or politically it's Farage. Nothing in the middle where you can have an issue with some bits of immigration without being called a right wing racist.

Farage is a clown and doesn't help the situation at all. All he does is stir the pot

Needs someone much more reasoned than Robinson or Farage.

 

[Saddlebrains]

There were race riots back in the late 90s at my secondary school. It felt back then like the lid was ready to come off at any time.

I have no idea how we are a 1/4 century on and the pot hasn't boiled over yet.

I'm glad it hasn't - but it will come. And it will be a huge shock to a lot of people.

I wish it weren't so, but things just seem inevitable.

Thing is I really don't think it's going to be race riots in the basic sense of the word of it being due to someone's colour

I touched on this the other day but members of the Sikh + Hindu community whom I have many friends are also sick to the back teeth of the goings on at the moment, and are 100% on the same page that it needs stopping. If there are to be riots I'd be pretty confident that it won't be down to race and there will be many black and white people on the same side against what is, no denying the last few years, an invasion of scum

 

[Otis]

you will all be happy to know. I am going for a pint

I will leave this with you glorious people. if this doesn’t hit home, nothing will

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Knife crime is horrendous.

How many people have been stabbed to death by non-Muslims/migrants?

People are being stabbed to death every day.

 

[clint van damme]

This is it

I think its becoming clear that even those who may have been quite liberal in the past, normal folk like most of us, cannot deny there are issues now

It's undeniable that unchecked immigration is leading to heinous crimes like today. It's undeniable that the amount of immigration, legal and non legal is one of the forces on the housing system, the judicial system, the health service, civil service.

And it's undeniable that as I say a certain number of people are coming into this country and doing what the fuck they like, how they like, when they like, have no intention of integrating and I think the common working person of this country is about done with being told its all ok

I can remember 2 other attacks like this, both in the 90s and both carried out by British citizens, (Dunblane was absolutely horrendous).

That doesn't detract from the horror of today but as always with these events there's tendency to whitewash the past as some of utopia where bad things never happened and thats not the case.

Again, to reiterate, not trying to water down what happened today but its not the first time, be good if it was the last but I doubt it will be.

 

[Diogenes]

Thing is I really don't think it's going to be race riots in the basic sense of the word of it being due to someone's colour

I touched on this the other day but members of the Sikh + Hindu community whom I have many friends are also sick to the back teeth of the goings on at the moment, and are 100% on the same page that it needs stopping. If there are to be riots I'd be pretty confident that it won't be down to race and there will be many black and white people on the same side against what is, no denying the last few years, an invasion of scum

Agreed - I'm using the term race riots more broadly. But in truth I don't think it will be rioting that we will need to worry about.

I fear more something along the lines of what we saw in the troubles, but on steroids.

If that happens- don't forget the UK has plenty of enemies overseas who would only be too delighted to start supplying and funding dissident, violent groups.

 

[PVA]

you will all be happy to know. I am going for a pint

I will leave this with you glorious people. if this doesn’t hit home, nothing will

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You don't know what defines terror, fine.

We'll just add it to the list of stuff you've made yourself look a tit over in this thread.

 

[torchomatic]

Some people really are dim:

 

[Alkhen]

How do we fix the problem when the systems needed to do so are so broken? The prisons are full and underfunded & mental health services have been mercilessly cut. Brexit has made cooperation with neighbouring countries harder than ever.

The previous government spent it's last years whipping up people into a froth over the bizarre PR stunt that was the Rwanda scheme.

The new government are screwed, they have to untangle years of neglect. People will moan if taxes go up. Idiots will parrot stop the boats without any meaningful contribution as to how.

I do feel the least optimistic about my kids futures than I ever have before. I honestly haven't got a clue how this will all end

 

[Como]

Merseyside police chief constable Serena Kennedy said a 17-year-old boy from Banks, Lancashire, had been arrested on suspicion of murder and attempted murder over the “ferocious attack”.

She added that he was originally from Cardiff, south Wales.

Seems he is Welsh according to the Guardian

 

[Deleted member 5849]

Why is there an argument on this thread? What's to disagree about?

It's shit and the perpetrator is a bastard, and we all agree!

Hmm 5999 posts since the chemtrail brother stirred.

 

[GIMOC]

I can remember 2 other attacks like this, both in the 90s and both carried out by British citizens, (Dunblane was absolutely horrendous).

That doesn't detract from the horror of today but as always with these events there's tendency to whitewash the past as some of utopia where bad things never happened and thats not the case.

Again, to reiterate, not trying to water down what happened today but it’s not the first time, be good if it was the last but I doubt it will be.

sorry but had to comment on this walking to the pub

how many terrorist attacks have we had on British soil since dunblane?

90% of them committed by muslims

high profile ones such as London bombings, Manchester arena, Lee rugby, London Bridge, Westminster bridge, Reading park, Streatham and not to mention others

if you can’t see what’s in front of you god help you

 

[Como]

Stop the Boats?

That is what you have a Navy for.

 

[GIMOC]

Seems he is Welsh according to the Guardian

lol he was welsh. I really do give up

 

[Alan Dugdales Moustache]

This is it

I think its becoming clear that even those who may have been quite liberal in the past, normal folk like most of us, cannot deny there are issues now

It's undeniable that unchecked immigration is leading to heinous crimes like today. It's undeniable that the amount of immigration, legal and non legal is one of the forces on the housing system, the judicial system, the health service, civil service.

And it's undeniable that as I say a certain number of people are coming into this country and doing what the fuck they like, how they like, when they like, have no intention of integrating and I think the common working person of this country is about done with being told its all ok

It's out of control. Sooner or later a western European country will elect an extreme far right leader if this continues and it won't be like a Trump or Farage. We're no different despite all the arguments that we're a tolerant multi cultural nation.
If that's what people decide then they'll have been driven to it by a set of circumstances that threatens their sense of identity and democratic principles