Southport Stabbing (22 Viewers)

[hill83]

But what i don't understand is why that person would still feel the need to identify as Jamaican, or even Black? As i said in my other post, i am white British so probably don't understand all the influences and ties to another culture (other than supporting Wales at rugby because my mum was Welsh). I would genuinely like to know, if anyone would care to share (even by DM).

He doesn’t tbf.

For me personally I identify as mixed race. But I’m equally as proud of my Scottish and Irish roots. I’m just not incessantly having to defend them to plonkers so it doesn’t come up as much.

 

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[Otis]

They were named at the end of the trial because the judge believed the public interest outweighed the need for them to retain anonymity. Their new identities were protected in perpetuity by injunction when they turned 18.

Weren't the attackers in the Brianna Ghey murder named? They were only 16 weren't they?

 

[clint van damme]

But what i don't understand is why that person would still feel the need to identify as Jamaican, or even Black? As i said in my other post, i am white British so probably don't understand all the influences and ties to another culture (other than supporting Wales at rugby because my mum was Welsh). I would genuinely like to know, if anyone would care to share (even by DM).

You've said you don't understand ties to another culture then explained why you've got a tie to another culture!

 

[Otis]

Brianna Ghey murder: Which other young killers have been named by courts?

The killers of James Bulger in 1993 are among those who have been named in the past.

www.standard.co.uk

 

[clint van damme]

Brianna Ghey murder: Which other young killers have been named by courts?

The killers of James Bulger in 1993 are among those who have been named in the past.

www.standard.co.uk

Not pre trial though

 

[MalcSB]

Brianna Ghey murder: Which other young killers have been named by courts?

The killers of James Bulger in 1993 are among those who have been named in the past.

www.standard.co.uk

It’s inevitable that he will be named once pronounced guilty - unless a mental illness plea precludes that.

 

[Otis]

Not pre trial though

Yeah. Sorry, I didn't clock that. Numpty.

 

[rob9872]

He doesn’t tbf.

For me personally I identify as mixed race. But I’m equally as proud of my Scottish and Irish roots. I’m just not incessantly having to defend them to plonkers so it doesn’t come up as much.

I've backed the views of you and @covcity4life many times with race issues on here, as I think whilst many can speculate and have empathy, only you know what personally feels like and whether you feel attacked by certain things that others dont see ... but Scottish? Ffs that's inexcusable

 

[MalcSB]

I've backed the views of you and @covcity4life many times with race issues on here, as I think whilst many can speculate and have empathy, only you know what personally feels like and whether you feel attacked by certain things that others dont see ... but Scottish? Ffs that's inexcusable

I have more in common with hill83 than I thought.

 

[rob9872]

I have more in common with hill83 than I thought.

Oh here we go, playing the Scottish card

 

[OffenhamSkyBlue]

He doesn’t tbf.

For me personally I identify as mixed race. But I’m equally as proud of my Scottish and Irish roots. I’m just not incessantly having to defend them to plonkers so it doesn’t come up as much.

Just to clarify, i wasn't suggesting they DID identify one way or the other. And, much as Kamala Harris, it is really nobody's business but their own! Thanks for your insight

 

[hill83]

I have more in common with hill83 than I thought.

My nan was from Oban. We might be able to narrow it down further.

 

[nicksar]

I've backed the views of you and @covcity4life many times with race issues on here, as I think whilst many can speculate and have empathy, only you know what personally feels like and whether you feel attacked by certain things that others dont see ... but Scottish? Ffs that's inexcusable

First you liken me to "Norris" ,now you attack my nationality...no more diet recommendations from me you Thunt

 

[OffenhamSkyBlue]

It’s inevitable that he will be named once pronounced guilty - unless a mental illness plea precludes that.

I suspect it would be more a case of his protection in whatever institution he ends up in.

 

[covcity4life]

I haven't commented on this aspect of the thread so far, but I have to say i have been quite surprised by the number of posters who are only now showing their true colours, when i considered SBT to be generally quite a reasonable, accepting, humane and liberal (not necessarily politically) group of people.

I called this a long time ago and used to get told I was playing the race card....

 

[OffenhamSkyBlue]

My nan was from Oban. We might be able to narrow it down further.

I've been to Oban a number of times, my brother!!!

 

[Otis]

I've been to Oban a number of times, my brother!!!

I've never been to Scotland.

At the very least, that makes me a regionalist. Probably worse.

 

[Bugsy]

Don't know how true it is but....

 

[hill83]

Don't know how true it is but....

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She’s updated it saying he’s been caught. Again no idea if any of it is true

 

[rob9872]

I've never been to Scotland.

At the very least, that makes me a regionalist. Probably worse.

You said earlier in the week (could've been on this thread) that you always try and learn a bit of the language when you go somewhere new, I'd give it a swerve as I think you'll struggle up there.

 

[OffenhamSkyBlue]

Don't know how true it is but....

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Probably a Chrysler Crossfire - or a can of Strongbow!

 

[Sick Boy]

notice you are so quick to believe he is 17, why is that ? because the BBC told you so, you really are brainwashed.

Oh the irony.

 

[rob9872]

Probably a Chrysler Crossfire - or a can of Strongbow!

He might have picked it up in store, do they sell them at Asda?

 

[OffenhamSkyBlue]

He might have picked it up in store, do they sell them at Asda?

When they were owned by Walmart you probably could have!

 

[sylus]

You're fucking thick, mate. An utter fool.

is that the best you can do, oh come on, at least put some effort in

 

[OffenhamSkyBlue]

Oh 'ere we go ...

 

[rob9872]

is that the best you can do, oh come on, at least put some effort in

 

[nicksar]

You said earlier in the week (could've been on this thread) that you always try and learn a bit of the language when you go somewhere new, I'd give it a swerve as I think you'll struggle up there.

It's piss easy tbh , c**t is used in every sentence longer than four words and fucking is a precursor to every noun

 

[torchomatic]

is that the best you can do, oh come on, at least put some effort in

Might not have put much thought into it, but it's accurate.

 

[MalcSB]

My nan was from Oban. We might be able to narrow it down further.

My Dad was from Glasgow. Me and Mrs Malc were in Oban a few weeks ago.

 

[torchomatic]

Named.

UK riots latest: Thousands take part in anti-racism protests; petrol bomb thrown at mosque in 'racially motivated' incident

Police are on high alert this weekend amid concerns over more disorder breaking out as protests take place across the country. In Northern Ireland, police are investigating a "racially motivated" attack on a mosque.

news.sky.com

 

[nicksar]

The killer has been named

 

[MalcSB]

I suspect it would be more a case of his protection in whatever institution he ends up in.

He deserves no more protection than those little girls got.

 

[Otis]

The killer has been named

I felt they had to.

Especially with wrong names flying about the internet. Could easily result in someone else being wrongly attacked.

 

[Sky Blue Pete]

I think someone mentioned it on here, possibly earlier in this thread, that they knew someone whose parents had come to Britain from India "back in the day" and were delighted to be here and to be accepted.
True, there were racist movements in the 60s (well done, Enoch!) after the initial, what you might call "mass" immigration from the Caribbean and the Indian sub-continent, but the people who came, for work opportunities, for a new start, or for refuge (e.g. from Idi Amin's Ugandan atrocities against the Indian people) really and truly integrated, albeit understandably wanting to retain some of their own culture (cf. the John Bull pub in Benidorm).
I lived in Leicester in the 80s and 90s, and it was a great example of multi-culturalism and a real "melting pot" of cultures enjoyed by all sides (even though you might describe the distribution of the faiths and races as being slightly "enclave" in their pattern), mainly first and second generation immigrants.

What i simply do not understand is why their kids and grandkids now consider themselves to have closer ties to their ancestral homeland and culture and to be less "British-Asian" or "Black British" than their parents did 30-40 years ago. I think this is causing increased division nowadays, particularly around gang culture.
Apologies if my being a privileged middle-aged white bloke has caused me to over-simplify the issues.

Did the racism in the 70’s and 80’s not exist?
Am I going mad?