Southport Stabbing (20 Viewers)

[eastwoodsdustman]

Well there are some images of him at school and being banned for carrying knives

Ex school colleague said he wanted to commit a Rwandan style genocide

Father was implicit in Rwandan genocide

If that really is the case then you do have to question some of the immigration policies of the UK over the years.

 

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[Grendel]

Thge ripple effect of the misinformation and racism. There's a video of the trouble in Hartlepool last night. Some right-wing thickos singing their praise to Tommy Robinson. Asian guy happens to be walking past and one of said thickos punches him in the face. Wish they would round up all these hateful cunts and plonk them on a remote uninhabited island somewhere to rot.

I think that’s a breach of the ECHR isn’t it? Are you suggesting we need to leave it?

 

[wingy]

Awful. Hope that's not true.

Fraid it will be a factor to consider?

 

[Grendel]

If that really is the case then you do have to question some of the immigration policies of the UK over the years.

Id say of the theee rumours thats the flakiest

 

[eastwoodsdustman]

The ripple effect of the misinformation and racism. There's a video of the trouble in Hartlepool last night. Some right-wing thickos singing their praise to Tommy Robinson. Asian guy happens to be walking past and one of said thickos punches him in the face. Wish they would round up all these hateful cunts and plonk them on a remote uninhabited island somewhere to rot.

You're speaking about a town where they hung a monkey for being a spy Torch!

 

[clint van damme]

That Atherton bloke?

There's more than just him but hes an example.
I mean, if you continually have to lie to try and validate your political opinion, maybe its not very sound in the first place.

 

[torchomatic]

You're speaking about a town where they hung a monkey for being a spy Torch!

Yeah, true.

 

[Grendel]

Could be anyone but if you are obsessed by twitter it’s easy to accept

 

[torchomatic]

Could be anyone but if you are obsessed by twitter it’s easy to accept

And, he does it all while sat by his pool in Spain, which triggers thickos throughout the UK.

 

[OffenhamSkyBlue]

Could be anyone but if you are obsessed by twitter it’s easy to accept

Not that many Hutus in Southport, i'd have thought.

 

[Como]

Southport murder accused named as Axel Rudakubana

Judge allows naming of 17-year-old boy charged with three counts of murder and 10 of attempted murder

www.theguardian.com

 

[wingy]

Not that many Hutus in Southport, i'd have thought.

With the political landscape of the past year it'll be some twisted reasoning behind all this IMO?

 

[MalcSB]

I felt they had to.

Especially with wrong names flying about the internet. Could easily result in someone else being wrongly attacked.

Arguably wouldn’t anyone being attacked be wrong.

 

[OffenhamSkyBlue]

Arguably wouldn’t anyone being attacked be wrong.

Maybe "mistakenly" is a better term?

 

[MalcSB]

Foreign name will embolden reform and racists

They already knew he was of Rwandan descent so not really adding much.

 

[Harry Krishner]

If that really is the case then you do have to question some of the immigration policies of the UK over the years.

I understand the UK has harboured a good number of individuals with murderous backgrounds over the years from a variety of places.

 

[Como]

First sketch of Axel Muganwa Rudakubanapublished at 12:56
12:56BREAKING​

The sketch was drawn in court in Liverpool this morning.

 

[SBAndy]

Could be anyone but if you are obsessed by twitter it’s easy to accept

“What does he look like now?”

I wonder what the significance of that is, Tommy.

 

[Otis]

Could be anyone but if you are obsessed by twitter it’s easy to accept

It's insane. Only looked at one comment below and that said "this confirms it was a racially motivated terrorist attack.

Just because some random poster has put on there that he was in his/her class at school and was carrying knives and he said it needed a Rwandan type genocide to put things right here

Weird that some people don't believe the press or the BBC or the police, but DO believe that this person WAS actually at school with the boy.

Anyone can say anything online. You can't just take that as gospel. It's like the only came over a year ago etc. and it wouldn't take much at all to find a photo of the boy on the internet..

People WILL definitely take stuff like this as gospel.

 

[shmmeee]

It’s just impatience at this point. He’s been caught. It’ll all come out as to why he did it. Not sure other than people’s curiosity the point of guessing now is.

 

[Otis]

Arguably wouldn’t anyone being attacked be wrong.

Yeah. I mean the name that was banded about as the attacker, that was wrong.

 

[Deleted member 162]

“What does he look like now?”

I wonder what the significance of that is, Tommy.

Why would they not show an up to date photograph anyway? They clearly have access, why wouldn't they? Why infantilise someone who has murdered children? What is the benefit?

 

[Evo1883]

If that really is the case then you do have to question some of the immigration policies of the UK over the years.

Absolutely, but the problem is nobody seems to be able to have the conversation .. and let's be real that's fact anybody that moans about immigration of any kind Is immediately labelled .

 

[skybluetony176]

Well, if his dad was involved in the Rwanda genocide it almost certainly makes him a Hutu and by extension almost certainly a Christian. So what was attacking the mosques about? Opportunistic racist thugs.

 

[Deleted member 162]

Well, if his dad was involved in the Rwanda genocide it almost certainly makes him a Hutu and by extension almost certainly a Christian. So what was attacking the mosques about? Opportunistic racist thugs.

Think it had something to do with a Muslim turning up with a machete

 

[OffenhamSkyBlue]

Well, if his dad was involved in the Rwanda genocide it almost certainly makes him a Hutu and by extension almost certainly a Christian. So what was attacking the mosques about? Opportunistic racist thugs.

I read in a post online (so it must be true) that he the descendant of a Tutsi warlord, which is why i mentioned him wanting to commit atrocities against Hutus, perhaps.

 

[Alan Dugdales Moustache]

Well, if his dad was involved in the Rwanda genocide it almost certainly makes him a Hutu and by extension almost certainly a Christian. So what was attacking the mosques about? Opportunistic racist thugs.

I hope he dies an excruciating death.

 

[Otis]

Absolutely, but the problem is nobody seems to be able to have the conversation .. and let's be real that's fact anybody that moans about immigration of any kind Is immediately labelled .

Not sure that's entirely right, Evo.

It's just the "stop the boats" and "send them all back" and "why is it only the men that come over" and "they're all Muslims and want Sharia law" stuff that winds people up

I am more than happy to discuss immigration sensibly. Loads of others on here too.

We all know we can't just let everyone in. We couldn't cope with it. It's all about how you address it and find a solution, because at the moment, there doesn't seem to be one.

I see on FB loads of people moaning that Labour stopped the Rwandan scheme and that's allowed thousands to just walk into our country.

The Rwandan thing was just a smokescreen and was never going to work or solve anything.

More than happy to have a civil, sensible conversation. Just need to get away from migrants are bad and Muslims are taking over Britain stuff.

 

[OffenhamSkyBlue]

Think it had something to do with a Muslim turning up with a machete

That is nonsense. One English person turned up to the vigil (FFS) with a flick knife (i.e. offensive weapon) and was arrested.

 

[Otis]

Why are we talking about the genocide thing as true?


Is there anything past someone on the internet saying that he said it when he was at school?

 

[OffenhamSkyBlue]

Not sure that's entirely right, Evo.

It's just the "stop the boats" and "send them all back" and "why is it only the men that come over" and "they're all Muslims and want Sharia law" stuff that winds people up

I am more than happy to discuss immigration sensibly. Loads of others on here too.

We all know we can't just let everyone in. We couldn't cope with it. It's all about how you address it and find a solution, because at the moment, there doesn't seem to be one.

I see on FB loads of people moaning that Labour stopped the Rwandan scheme and that's allowed thousands to just walk into our country.

The Rwandan thing was just a smokescreen and was never going to work or solve anything.

More than happy to have a civil, sensible conversation. Just need to get away from migrants are bad and Muslims are taking over Britain stuff.

Time for a new thread?

 

[Deleted member 162]

That is nonsense. One English person turned up to the vigil (FFS) with a flick knife (i.e. offensive weapon) and was arrested.

The posts which flooded social media (and consequently caused the events Tony enquired about) were as follows:


He asked a question, I answered

 

[David O'Day]

Think it had something to do with a Muslim turning up with a machete

Ok, that makes it fine to smash up a town, attack the police and attack a mosque

 

[CCFCSteve]

I think Deleted member 5849 made the point that it emboldens people when they see posts that reflect their views. Normally they would be too embarrassed to express them. And yes it is disappointing that there are actually some many.

This is unfortunately where we are with social media echo chambers, throw in Russian and probably Chinese bots/teams whipping up fury with further disinformation and you can see why the West is in a bit of bother

Social media platforms and posters need to held to account with regard to the spreading of disinformation, especially if it’s intentional. Thats not going to be easy but a hell of a lot more needs to be done

 

[Deleted member 162]

Ok, that makes it fine to smash up a town, attack the police and attack a mosque

Does it? Bold take.