That may all be true, but it is irrelevant to that fact that it was the previous coaching team who had developed and improved the players you referred to. So far, there is no evidence either way that the current plethora of coaches will prove as capable.
You’re right, but you’re not taking into account how much of a benefit that “spotlight” is.I don’t just “advocate arbitrary practices” for the sake of it, I have my own reasoning behind them, maybe it’s flawed but it’s just an opinion. I’ve talked in depth before about the idea behind why I think European signings are generally better than L1 signings, and yes I’ve got no evidence to back this up, but it’s my personal opinion that championship clubs overpay for L1 players because fans/scouts/managers etc have a more in-depth view of L1 than other leagues around the world, we follow English football more than Swedish or Belgian football for instance. So any player that does well in L1 is in more of a spotlight than the equivalent league abroad, but it doesn’t mean that they’re better than their European equivalent.
For instance, how much would have Kitching been worth if he had played for an Italian Serie B team? I highly doubt it would have been £4 mil. There’s just a bigger pool of talent abroad as well, so many leagues to look at. I just think it’s much better (and has been much better) for us to look at Europe than to risk £4-5 mil on a player from L1.
(Sorry it’s a bit of a Parklife, it’s hard to describe the gut feeling I have about L1)
I did say it’s hard to put into words my feelings about buying L1 players
They had us 7th before the start of the season. It’s just a reflection of our poor start.
If Kitching was a Serie B player he would still be English and not need a visa.
Odd that!
Ok lol, but he wouldn’t be English. There’s 1 English player in the whole of serie b
I’m not really bothered tbh but I just really hope we don’t try and unearth hidden gems in L1 any time soon, just feels like a big risk and a waste of money to me.
We haven't tried to unearth anything in reality, EMC was the only one of the players you are talking about without Championship experience. Signings like Dovin and Torp i'd refer to more as attempts to 'unearth' talent.I can’t remember where this discussion started but I quoted someone and then someone quoted me and then it ended up here
Signing players from a league below is the norm for 95% of football teams. Sakamoto was signed from a team relegated from the Belgian first division, likewise with Hamer in the Netherlands.I can’t remember where this discussion started but I quoted someone and then someone quoted me and then it ended up here
They were also involved in Barnsley’s playoff season but, what does the recruitment team know, eh?
Does Hamers Premier League experience count then?
Really? Barnsley got to the playoff finals with Thomas and Kitching as their captain - I was at their game and they were unlucky to have lost. I’m pretty sure Luton signed one of their CBs too that offseason - so it was a top end L1 unit. They looked a fantastic duo when we switched to 4-2-3-1 and hindsight being what it is, I think our squad and particularly the defenders miss having McFadz around as a senior figure.
I can’t remember where this discussion started but I quoted someone and then someone quoted me and then it ended up here
Imagine calling a player who has 32 goal contributions in the league below a ‘hidden gem’. Even if EMC achieves half his output from last season, the numbers are significant and improves our team.
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I was replying to a post that the money spent on EMC would've been better spent on giving Hamer the contract he wanted, we need midfielders, we have Bassette who can play along the front line.
Imagine the travesty had we let Hamer go for free? I’m sorry, but £15m for that deal was 100% worth it.
You do understand the Visa problems trying to sign players from lesser/lower leagues?
Championship teams aren’t signing Serie A, Bundesliga or Argentina Primera first team players. So you’re taking chances on fringe players at best.
"I've talked in depth before about the idea...and yes I've got no evidence to back this up" Priceless.I don’t just “advocate arbitrary practices” for the sake of it, I have my own reasoning behind them, maybe it’s flawed but it’s just an opinion. I’ve talked in depth before about the idea behind why I think European signings are generally better than L1 signings, and yes I’ve got no evidence to back this up, but it’s my personal opinion that championship clubs overpay for L1 players because fans/scouts/managers etc have a more in-depth view of L1 than other leagues around the world, we follow English football more than Swedish or Belgian football for instance. So any player that does well in L1 is in more of a spotlight than the equivalent league abroad, but it doesn’t mean that they’re better than their European equivalent.
For instance, how much would have Kitching been worth if he had played for an Italian Serie B team? I highly doubt it would have been £4 mil. There’s just a bigger pool of talent abroad as well, so many leagues to look at. I just think it’s much better (and has been much better) for us to look at Europe than to risk £4-5 mil on a player from L1.
(Sorry it’s a bit of a Parklife, it’s hard to describe the gut feeling I have about L1
