Spy Poisoning (3 Viewers)

[Grendel]

Nope, not misheard. She watches the news everyday without fail.

This is from TV news programmes over there. Probably will not be official statements from the government, but from Question Time/Hard Talk type programmes.

He’s 65 and unemployed

 

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[Otis]

He’s 65 and unemployed

Well this is Russian TV!

 

[wingy]

You suggesting a 'plant,' wingy?

No not really Otis
That bottles either lain in a bin or on the grass /undedgrowth for four months
Thry must empty the bins more frequently than that
But 5 days it sat in his house undetected while a bio search was carried out :-?

 

[Otis]

No not really Otis
That bottles either lain in a bin or on the grass /undedgrowth for four months
Thry must empty the bins more frequently than that
But 5 days it sat in his house undetected while a bio search was carried out :-?

It's like Making a Murderer isn't it!! Ha!

 

[dutchman]

Call me odd but shouldn't the very first thing the police ask Charley Rowley be: "What was a bottle of Novichok doing in your house?"

 

[Gazolba]

Normally when someone is found in possesion of a murder weapon, they become suspects. Why not in this case?

 

[Otis]

Normally when someone is found in possesion of a murder weapon, they become suspects. Why not in this case?

You think this Rowley fella poisoned the Skripals?

 

[dutchman]

You think this Rowley fella poisoned the Skripals?

According to the Daily Telegraph a team of five or six highly trained assassins broke into Charlie's flat while it was still being built and used it as a base to monitor the Skripal's movements (seven miles away). When they left they removed all traces of having been in the flat except for the bottle of deadly nerve agent which they left behind until Charlie's girlfriend discovered it months later.

Novichok poisoning: Nerve agent found in perfume bottle, says victim's brother

 

[Nick]

Seems a bit extreme.

If they are saying they found it under a bush, who picks up perfume bottles from bushes?

 

[dutchman]

Seems a bit extreme.

If they are saying they found it under a bush, who picks up perfume bottles from bushes?

A bush in a park seven miles from where they live and at the centre of a massively-publicised search for a deadly nerve agent!

 

[Sky Blue Pete]

Yep still not credible sorry

 

[Grendel]

A bush in a park seven miles from where they live and at the centre of a massively-publicised search for a deadly nerve agent!

One if them - the victim - lived within 1 mile of the search area - I bet you think Elvis lives on the moon

 

[Captain Dart]

One if them - the victim - lived within 1 mile of the search area - I bet you think Elvis lives on the moon

Stands to reason, where else would he live?

 

[dutchman]

One if them - the victim - lived within 1 mile of the search area

So you would think she would have mentioned to Charlie "Don't go picking up any suspicious looking containers left lying around in the local park"?

 

[Grendel]

So you would think she would have mentioned to Charlie "Don't go picking up any suspicious looking containers left lying around in the local park"?

Why - she was an alcoholic - seriously you should get a job with Russia and their news agency.

 

[dutchman]

Why - she was an alcoholic

And that stops her from hearing the news or discussing it with her boyfriend does it?

 

[wingy]

Huge inconsistencies from day one I'm afraid,Propaganda in full flow.
Absolutely no serious In fact any Journalism.
Following months,various TV pieces and other articles to backfill the inconsistencies .

 

[Grendel]

And that stops her from hearing the news or discussing it with her boyfriend does it?

What’s your take on it then?

 

[dutchman]

What’s your take on it then?

I don't have one. As far as I know Charlie has never said he found the bottle in a park, he has only ever said he picked it up. He hasn't said where or when or why. The rest is pure press speculation. According to one theory in the Telegraph which I linked above it was left behind in his flat before he moved into it.

 

[SkyblueBazza]

Why - she was an alcoholic - seriously you should get a job with Russia and their news agency.

Who has said she was an alcoholic? Not heard that until now. I know she was a mother & such reports, if true or not, are going to be severely upsetting for those close to her.



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[Gazolba]

You think this Rowley fella poisoned the Skripals?

No, I think a person or persons unknown poisoned them all.

 

[dutchman]

Who has said she was an alcoholic? Not heard that until now. I know she was a mother & such reports, if true or not, are going to be severely upsetting for those close to her.

I'm not claiming any of this is accurate, it's The Sun after all:

Who was Dawn Sturgess, what has the Salisbury Novichok victim's family said about her drug addiction and how many children does she have?

A family friend said mum Caroline Sturgess had claimed her daughter was not being given the same care as the Skripals because she is a "nobody alcoholic".

They added: "She feels that Dawn is not getting the same quality of treatment as the Skripals because of her background and the fact she's an alcoholic. She's seen as a nobody, really."

The friend explained how Dawn switched from a popular pupil at Durrington school in Wiltshire to a homeless alcoholic due to post-natal depression when her son Aidan was born.

The pal said: "Her personality changed. She became like a zombie.

"She didn't care about anything and just let everything go.

"She started smoking weed and over the course of time she turned to harder drugs."

Dawn was living in a homeless hostel 300 yards from the Zizzi restaurant where MI6 mole Sergei and daughter Yulia ate before they collapsed.

 

[covmark]

I'm not claiming any of this is accurate, it's The Sun after all:

Who was Dawn Sturgess, what has the Salisbury Novichok victim's family said about her drug addiction and how many children does she have?

A family friend said mum Caroline Sturgess had claimed her daughter was not being given the same care as the Skripals because she is a "nobody alcoholic".

They added: "She feels that Dawn is not getting the same quality of treatment as the Skripals because of her background and the fact she's an alcoholic. She's seen as a nobody, really."

The friend explained how Dawn switched from a popular pupil at Durrington school in Wiltshire to a homeless alcoholic due to post-natal depression when her son Aidan was born.

The pal said: "Her personality changed. She became like a zombie.

"She didn't care about anything and just let everything go.

"She started smoking weed and over the course of time she turned to harder drugs."

Dawn was living in a homeless hostel 300 yards from the Zizzi restaurant where MI6 mole Sergei and daughter Yulia ate before they collapsed.

It is accurate.

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[skyblueinBaku]

The Russians are saying (get all this from my missus who watches Russian news) that the dad of the dead woman worked at Porton Down and also that their top scientist said that Novichok is only active for about 7-10 days.

Hopefully after the tests we will have a clearer idea what happened with this second incident (that's me talking, not Russian news).

Does your missus watch RT, Otis, or do you have a super sattelite dish to tune in to Russian news programs broadcast in Russia? If it's RT, I'd take everything they say with a large pinch of salt.

 

[Otis]

Does your missus watch RT, Otis, or do you have a super sattelite dish to tune in to Russian news programs broadcast in Russia? If it's RT, I'd take everything they say with a large pinch of salt.

I do take everything with a pinch of salt. No, it's not RT. She goes on to YouTube. Stuff is maybe 2 or 3 hours out of date to live news, but she watches whole programmes that have been uploaded.

 

[Grendel]

I do take everything with a pinch of salt. No, it's not RT. She goes on to YouTube. Stuff is maybe 2 or 3 hours out of date to live news, but she watches whole programmes that have been uploaded.

Odd though you constantly refer to the daily mail and it’s lies, want to listen what the Russians have to say and then post their outright lies on this forum.

 

[skybluetony176]

Odd though you constantly refer to the daily mail and it’s lies, want to listen what the Russians have to say and then post their outright lies on this forum.

Are you talking to Otis or Trump? Trump sides with Russia against FBI

 

[covmark]

According to Charlie Rowleys brother, Charlie has told him they found a perfume bottle. This is what contained the novichok.

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[Otis]

Odd though you constantly refer to the daily mail and it’s lies, want to listen what the Russians have to say and then post their outright lies on this forum.

What on earth are you withering on about?

I honestly don't think you listen to a word people say at times, I really don't. Either that or you are so blinkered you read things one way and one way only.

My MISSUS watches Russian news, I don't.

SHE tells me what she hears in Russian news and I don't believe a single word of it ever, in fact we have many arguments about it, so much so I keep saying for her not to relay any of it, but sometimes she still does.

I always argue about every bit of news she every gives me from there because I know that a lot of the TV is state sponsored and not free press. I know it is 99.9% biased and a lot of nonsense.

I hardly believe a word of the Daily Mail without checking it and certainly do not believe a single word of the Russian press ever.

Are you listening at all to what I post? Have said this now so many times.

When I post what the Russians are saying it is always with disbelief and ridicule.

Thought that was blatantly obvious.

 

[skybluetony176]

What on earth are you withering on about?

I honestly don't think you listen to a word people say at times, I really don't. Either that or you are so blinkered you read things one way and one way only.

My MISSUS watches Russian news, I don't.

SHE tells me what she hears in Russian news and I don't believe a single word of it ever, in fact we have many arguments about it, so much so I keep saying for her not to relay any of it, but sometimes she still does.

I always argue about every bit of news she every gives me from there because I know that a lot of the TV is state sponsored and not free press. I know it is 99.9% biased and a lot of nonsense.

I hardly believe a word of the Daily Mail without checking it and certainly do not believe a single word of the Russian press ever.

Are you listening at all to what I post? Have said this now so many times.

When I post what the Russians are saying it is always with disbelief and ridicule.

Thought that was blatantly obvious.

What?

 

[Otis]

What?

Blatantly obvious that I take everything the Russians say with a huge pinch of salt and disbelief.

 

[shmmeee]

Blatantly obvious that I take everything the Russians say with a huge pinch of salt and disbelief.

What?

 

[skybluetony176]

Blatantly obvious that I take everything the Russians say with a huge pinch of salt and disbelief.

Eh?

 

[Otis]

What?

 

[dutchman]

According to Charlie Rowleys brother, Charlie has told him they found a perfume bottle. This is what contained the novichok.

Which rules out the theory that Charlie's flat was used as the base of operations by a gang of assassins.