Standing up at away games (16 Viewers)

[Sky Blue Pete]

Lots of selfish behaviour on here. Surely not a problem to sit down for the benefit of everyone??

 

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[nunchuckas]

Perhaps we're just too gracious for the thought of others. We arrived at Tranmere in plenty of time and headed for the seats we were allocated. Rather than be moved out for being in someone's way we waited and then saw where the empty spaces were and as you said a few extra rows they opened up at the front that had been covered and we sat in there instead for the second half. Perhaps just like those who head for the back we should head for the front if my daughter or dad is with us and ignore that we might be in someone elses place, but as I said we normally look for a space after kick-off before moving to it.

Yeah, there were plenty of spare seats behind me, just before the standing up people started, as well. So if I had been in someone else's seat (which I wasn't) I wouldn't have had to move far. Maybe it would be worth hanging around until kickoff and then see where the definite empty seats at the front are, there's usually loads at the front anyway. Unreserved would be so much easier, as everyone could go where they want/need to be, and only the ones who turn up late/last min would be at risk of having to go somewhere they don't want to be.

 

[speedie87]

Used to be better when u could pick ur seat for an away game could try and pick somewhere where could sit then

 

[shmmeee]

What chances a self appointed organiser with a megaphone being listened to?

 

[ccfchoi87]

Away games should always be unreserved. If you want to sit, get there early and head to the front. I can’t remember the last time I stood near my seat away from home. Infact, I can’t remember the last time I sat in my season ticket seat at St Andrews or the Ricoh.

 

[speedie87]

Away games should always be unreserved. If you want to sit, get there early and head to the front. I can’t remember the last time I stood near my seat away from home. Infact, I can’t remember the last time I sat in my season ticket seat at St Andrews or the Ricoh.

So you are reason I miss the first 5 minutes of most games with people turning up and saying to people you are in my seat

 

[ccfchoi87]

So you are reason I miss the first 5 minutes of most games with people turning up and saying to people you are in my seat

No one has ever said it to me so I doubt it. Nobody I know sits in their seat either tbh

 

[PurpleBin]

No one has ever said it to me so I doubt it. Nobody I know sits in their seat either tbh

Why not though?

 

[ccfchoi87]

Why not though?

Because it doesn’t seem like anybody does? I’ve been to every game this season and not had one issue. If I was to turn up 5 minutes into the game, I wouldn’t dream of going to look for my seat and kicking someone out of it, I would just find the nearest space. I don’t understand the problem personally

 

[GaryMabbuttsLeftKnee]

Because it doesn’t seem like anybody does? I’ve been to every game this season and not had one issue. If I was to turn up 5 minutes into the game, I wouldn’t dream of going to look for my seat and kicking someone out of it, I would just find the nearest space. I don’t understand the problem personally

Yeah also with you on this. I have probably sat in my seat a handful of times. I am always in the right block in case anyone does kick off but we usually wait until about one minute to kick off and move somewhere there's a bit more space, or you don't have some idiot shouting 'FORWARD' in your ear every ten seconds. Obviously if it was anywhere near full I would sit in my allocated seat, but I dont really get the problem when everyone has paid the same amount and there are plenty of seats around.

 

[ccfchoi87]

Yeah also with you on this. I have probably sat in my seat a handful of times. I am always in the right block in case anyone does kick off but we usually wait until about one minute to kick off and move somewhere there's a bit more space, or you don't have some idiot shouting 'FORWARD' in your ear every ten seconds. Obviously if it was anywhere near full I would sit in my allocated seat, but I dont really get the problem when everyone has paid the same amount and there are plenty of seats around.

Exactly. I have sat in my seat at Wembley but even at the Ricoh when we have had 25k + there is still enough room to move. If anyone was to say I was in there seat I would happily move. If they did that 5 minutes in, I would be less inclined to do so

 

[Joy Division]

The Tranmere game the ticket said you must sit in your allocated seat, always a bit difficult when the steward didn't know where our seats were and half the seats didn't even have numbers on them.

With away games I always try seek out my ticketed seat to avoid any difficulties in the first instance but if its obvious its a sit where you like game then I'm not too fussed. But will always be prepared to move if we are standing in sombodys spot.

 

[Irish Sky Blue]

It would be a lot easier for it to police itself if so many people weren't anal about sitting in their randomly allocated seat (I can understand for home games, but not away). If you want to stand up, go near the back or the middle behind the goal, If you want to sit, go to the front or the edges, the front is usually the emptiest bit with spare seats, even when it's sold out - presumably due to people all clamoring for the back middle sections to stand (more people fit when standing, although sometimes people do spill into the stairwells).

I was at Tranmere NYD, which was sold out, and actually sat in my seat for once (went into the ground early enough and it was actually a decent seat, lower down, and I wasn't having a day out drinking/singing etc. just wanted to watch the game and go home) but there were loads of empty seats around the front where people were sitting, because most people headed for the back for a sing song and to enjoy a bit of atmosphere.

As long as you go into the bowl bit of the ground at least 10 mins before kick off, then you will find space near where ever you want to be.

That wasn’t the case at Bristol Rovers as, from what I could see,all seats (seat spaces) were taken. At Burton last season people were asking those stood in front to sit down as, the same as at BR, there was a terrace available. They were just ignored. There are some ignorant people around.
There was an elderly couple who I used to see at every away game. They came over to where I was sitting at Grimsby at half time and asked if people in front of my seat were standing or sitting as they weren’t able to stand for long. I don’t see them any more.It’s a shame that the selfish attitude of some means that young, elderly or disabled supporters miss out. It has definitely got worse in the last two seasons, prior to this you could usually sit at the front or at the sides. Part of the ‘I’ll do what I want culture’.

 

[Nick]

The Tranmere game the ticket said you must sit in your allocated seat, always a bit difficult when the steward didn't know where our seats were and half the seats didn't even have numbers on them.

With away games I always try seek out my ticketed seat to avoid any difficulties in the first instance but if its obvious its a sit where you like game then I'm not too fussed. But will always be prepared to move if we are standing in sombodys spot.

Plus half of the seats had bird shit on

 

[rob9872]

I'm astonished people do this at home games too. You can literally go online and select the seat you want, so why would you then choose not to sit in it? Very odd. I've had a ticket with the exception of Sixfields for as long as I can remember and can't recall ever not sitting in the seat I'd picked for the season. Always nice to see a few of the same faces around you too.

 

[Nick]

At the Ricoh I used to sit all over the place to get a different view.

 

[ccfc92]

At the Ricoh I used to sit all over the place to get a different view.

 

[PurpleBin]

Because it doesn’t seem like anybody does? I’ve been to every game this season and not had one issue. If I was to turn up 5 minutes into the game, I wouldn’t dream of going to look for my seat and kicking someone out of it, I would just find the nearest space. I don’t understand the problem

i just wondered why you wouldn't. Like, if it was in a good spec would you still sit elsewhere?

 

[PurpleBin]

Personally speaking, if I go to my seat and someone is there so I have to go elsewhere I'd spend until KO anxious that someone then comes to claim that seat and then I end up looking the c**t when in fact I'm just playing the hand I'm dealt.

 

[Mild-Mannered Janitor]

Took my lad from an early age, I used to try and get the front two rows if possible.

Whilst we should self police, we know people don't and then like to offer to punch me for asking them to be considerate, I will be taking my grandson in the next year or so and will try for front seats or I find seats to the side can often be with groups who like to sit, maybe the club could ask when selling tickets or allow me to purchase those areas specifically.

 

[ccfchoi87]

I'm astonished people do this at home games too. You can literally go online and select the seat you want, so why would you then choose not to sit in it? Very odd. I've had a ticket with the exception of Sixfields for as long as I can remember and can't recall ever not sitting in the seat I'd picked for the season. Always nice to see a few of the same faces around you too.

i just wondered why you wouldn't. Like, if it was in a good spec would you still sit elsewhere?

At the Ricoh it was more expensive to sit in the seat I used to go to. Also, we like to sit with mates who don’t have season tickets next to us. To be honest, I haven’t actually found my season ticket seat at st Andrews and that’s partly why I haven’t gone there

 

[GaryMabbuttsLeftKnee]

I may be wrong with this, but I would assume that 80% of ticket sales are done online? (working in Digital Advertising I may be overestimating this). I know the club aren't going to want to be seen to 'promote' standing at away games as technically we all shouldn't but if we're being realistic we know it is going to happen. Could you not have it that attached to your account (log in ID) there is a preference to sit (therefore be allocated seats from the front back) or stand (allocated seats from back forward). Then a simple tick box if you want this changed eg you are not bringing the kids to a game, or you are bringing your elderly parent etc?

 

[ccfcway]

Same problem for every club. I love standing at away games. Clubs should back fill the tickets selling those at the back of the stand first, allowing first few rows to be for those who want to sit or can’t stand for a period of time.

 

[Sky Blue Pete]

They’re bloody seats what’s the issue with sitting on them?

 

[ccfcway]

They’re bloody seats what’s the issue with sitting on them?

In a stand, what’s the problem with standing .

 

[Liquid Gold]

They’re bloody seats what’s the issue with sitting on them?

The atmosphere is better standing, what is the issue with people standing?

Most of the people in here who prefer standing have suggested that we self police and go to the back while those that want to sit can head to the front. What is your issue with that? Why are you so attached to a randomly allocated seat in a stadium you've never visited?

 

[PurpleBin]

Just thought a bit more on this.

I think it's safe to assume that people don't have any particular urge to sit in the exact seat (or stand near it) but they do have a particular urge to not have to either negotiate with someone over a seat or end up in a drunken exchange with someone over a seat they've had to move too because someone was in their original seat. Often, both of those situations have ended in violence.

That's just me though. I give a fuck about other people and don't have a "I dont see the problem becauae it doesnt effect me" mentality.

 

[Liquid Gold]

Just thought a bit more on this.

I think it's safe to assume that people don't have any particular urge to sit in the exact seat (or stand near it) but they do have a particular urge to not have to either negotiate with someone over a seat or end up in a drunken exchange with someone over a seat they've had to move too because someone was in their original seat. Often, both of those situations have ended in violence.

That's just me though. I give a fuck about other people and don't have a "I dont see the problem becauae it doesnt effect me" mentality.

Nobody but a couple of knobheads have that mentality though do they. People are saying we should all be able to do what we want without trouble.

while some people have no doubt had a problem with someone aggressively refusing to move others have no doubt had a problem with people aggressively trying to force a them to sit down when everybody else is standing.

we need to stop projecting here and be rational that it could work sensibly for everybody if people weren’t so rigid about certain things.

 

[Sky Blue Pete]

The bloody issue is obvious and has been stated numerous times on here.

kids can’t watch the game and older people are choosing not to go. Bloody hell

 

[Liquid Gold]

The bloody issue is obvious and has been stated numerous times on here.

kids can’t watch the game and older people are choosing not to go. Bloody hell

Why are they incapable of sitting at the front?

 

[Sky Blue Pete]

The bloody issue is obvious and has been stated numerous times on here.

kids can’t watch the game and older people are choosing not to go. Bloody hell

But hey it’s ok I’m alright Jack seems to be the common thought this day and age so even though it makes no difference to able bodied adults cause it’s more fun let’s sod the kids and the older generation

 

[Sky Blue Pete]

Why are they incapable of sitting at the front?

Huh circular argument why can’t you sit down

 

[Liquid Gold]

Huh circular argument why can’t you sit down

Because I prefer standing, so I am happy to go to the rear of the stand to be able to do that. Why are you wanting others to accommodate you but refusing to accommodate them?

 

[PurpleBin]

Nobody but a couple of knobheads have that mentality though do they. People are saying we should all be able to do what we want without trouble.

while some people have no doubt had a problem with someone aggressively refusing to move others have no doubt had a problem with people aggressively trying to force a them to sit down when everybody else is standing.

we need to stop projecting here and be rational that it could work sensibly for everybody if people weren’t so rigid about certain things.

Pretty sure someone on this thread had that idea of "im alright Jack"

 

[Sky Blue Pete]

Because I prefer standing, so I am happy to go to the rear of the stand to be able to do that. Why are you wanting others to accommodate you but refusing to accommodate them?

Mmmmmm the view